Microsoft pushes spam-filtering technology
Posted by galoosh33 on 24 June 2005 - 09:01 · 9 comments & 1363 views
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#1 Posted by Sphinx Myth on 24 Jun 2005 - 09:12
QUOTE "We think Microsoft is trying to strong-arm the industry into the adoption of an incomplete and not accepted standard"
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#1.2 Posted by MrA on 24 Jun 2005 - 12:26
- I think he/she means that microsoft is using their dominant position to force people to use Sender ID. The industry hasn't accepted the sender ID framework yet and it's ms only so anyone sending mail from, say a gmail account will have their mail flagged as spam. Anywho, I'd rather see yahoo's domainkeys become the accepted technology. At least it's open, so anyone can implement it.
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#2 Posted by Colin-uk on 24 Jun 2005 - 11:27
- why is it classed as not complete? and who has to "accept it" in order for it be seen as "acceptable" ?
stupid people, at least microsoft are doing something.. -
#2.1 Posted by triad_man on 24 Jun 2005 - 13:14
- While I don't know all the technical details as I remember in order to impliment this technology email providers would have to accept some licensing agreements form Microsoft. Also is the technology available on non-microsoft platfoms? Most email flows through *nix platforms. While they may be doing something it could be the wrong thing for many organizations.
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#3 Posted by FloatingFatMan on 24 Jun 2005 - 12:09
- All these people have been doing is talk about ways to stop spam. At least Microsoft have decided to actually DO something about it!
Besides, if it's mail being sent to THEIR systems, they can do what they bleeding well want with it. No sender id? You ain't using our resources to send email then pal, so fork off elsewhere!
Looks like I might NOT have to junk my current hotmail addy anymore
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#3.1 Posted by redkahn on 24 Jun 2005 - 12:23
- It would be nice if it was that simple but we could have 100's of technologies that admins have to jump through, in order to comply with different standards. If MS is going to try to force it on people, they may not get too many takers. How popular will Hotail be if everything you get is considered spam?
IMHO, there will need to be some teeth in the standard. A body that keeps the records and can cut off a "key" if someone gets caught sending spam. Without that, nothing will change.
Sometime around November, Hotmail and MSN will flag as potential spam those messages that do not have the tag to verify the sender, Craig Spiezle, a director in the technology care and safety group at the software maker said Wednesday. The move is meant to spur adoption of Sender ID, he said.
Sender ID is a specification for verifying the authenticity of e-mail by ensuring the validity of the server from which the e-mail came. While the purpose of curbing junk mail may be laudable, the debate on how to stop the tide of junk mail is still ongoing. According to Microsoft, up to 90 percent of e-mail is spam. Critics say Sender ID, which includes technology developed by Microsoft, is not an accepted standard and has many shortcomings. Also, there are technologies that compete with Sender ID, such as Yahoo's DomainKeys.
"We think Microsoft is trying to strong-arm the industry into the adoption of an incomplete and not accepted standard," said Dave Rand, chief technologist for Internet content security at security software company Trend Micro.
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