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Chemically Misting Drives Available Next Year

stncttr908   on 25 June 2005 - 17:11 · 71 comments & 4104 views

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Have you ever had a laptop stolen? How about a cell phone? Did either contain any sensitive data? With mobile devices becoming more and more common each day, the risk for theft of such devices also increases. This is where data security company Ensconce Data Technology and their "Dead on Demand" service comes in. Starting "early next year," companies will be able to purchase drives from EDT that contain an acidic "chemical mist" that destroys the drive layer by layer should it be stolen.

Drives will reportedly cost anywhere between a whopping $2,500 to $9,000, but will supposedly all but prevent data theft by triggering themselves if the drive is removed or tampered with. The mist may also be triggered of the system containing the drive is removed from a specific GPS location, or even by changes in temperature. Worried customers can also trigger the destruction via a cell phone call.

While other data protection solutions exist, this is by far the most drastic. After all, would you be comfortable having an acidic mist inside your hard drive?

News source: The Wall Street Journal


Key findings of the study include:
  • On a per-asset basis, the Microsoft platform is less expensive to patch than a similar OSS environment:
    -Windows desktops cost 14 percent less to patch than Linux desktops.
    -Windows servers cost 13 percent less to patch than Linux servers.
    -Windows database servers cost 33 percent less to patch than Linux database servers.
  • OSS-based systems faced with high-level and critical vulnerabilities are at risk longer than comparable Windows-based systems.
  • Survey respondents consistently overestimated the number of Windows vulnerabilities, while underestimating those for OSS.
  • Through the use of best practices, Windows patching costs can be reduced by up to 55 percent.

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(5 replies) #1 sebsz1 on 25 Jun 2005 - 17:20
Ooooohh... let's hope you don't dial the wrong number!
#1.1 lylesback2 on 25 Jun 2005 - 17:44
just what i was thinking.

it's a great idea... but say you call the wrong number, or it accidently goes off? your hard drive is toast
#1.2 Hamster Man on 25 Jun 2005 - 18:31
fools - obviously you'd have to talk to an operator in order to take your personal security details - otherwise you'd have drive-by-phonecalls by complete strangers.

think about it guys
#1.3 tiagosilva29 on 26 Jun 2005 - 04:55
Hamster Man is the Man, at the moment.
#1.4 Hamster Man on 26 Jun 2005 - 17:32
for about 5 seconds
#1.5 AJCrowley Esq on 27 Jun 2005 - 11:18
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obviously you'd have to talk to an operator in order to take your personal security details


That's neither what the article said, or implied. I have no idea why the article states that you can call it in from a cellphone, perhaps landlines lack the capability to do such a thing. You're probably correct, but for now, I'd like to maintain my dream of having a phone list of these things. Think ransom, or just random destruction. Awesome.
(5 replies) #2 Boogiman on 25 Jun 2005 - 17:21
Asum

That is what you can call a serious data protection....
#2.1 theyarecomingforyou on 25 Jun 2005 - 17:25
Data protection? Data destruction.
#2.2 dismuter on 26 Jun 2005 - 03:09
Destroying data is a very effective way of protecting it, if you have a backup in another safe place.
#2.3 theyarecomingforyou on 26 Jun 2005 - 13:45
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Destroying data is a very effective way of protecting it, if you have a backup in another safe place.


I know, I just find computers funny - if I was to burn my car to stop it being stolen that wouldn't really be classed as "protection".
#2.4 Hamster Man on 26 Jun 2005 - 17:33
different type of protection - if your car had national security details inside it, then yes you'd probably rather it be nuked off the face of the earth - imagine what Georgy Bush would say when he found out eh!
#2.5 AJCrowley Esq on 27 Jun 2005 - 11:21
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imagine what Georgy Bush would say


"Karl? Dick? What does S-E-C-U-R-I-T-Y spell? That sure is a long word."
(1 reply) #3 Foub on 25 Jun 2005 - 17:25
Just think if some hacker got a hold of your number and code. They could call in and make your drive self-destruct.
#3.1 elliot on 25 Jun 2005 - 22:00
You missed out the most important bit: how they actually get your number and code.
(3 replies) #4 dan on 25 Jun 2005 - 17:33
I bet Gary Glitter wished he had a hard drive that could do that
#4.1 Celsyus on 25 Jun 2005 - 21:32
hahahaa, good ol gary glitter...
#4.2 StuRReaL on 27 Jun 2005 - 09:59
shudders "that dirty old git"
#4.3 AJCrowley Esq on 27 Jun 2005 - 11:21
Did I miss something? Did the Paedofinder General get him?
(2 replies) #5 Smigit on 25 Jun 2005 - 17:43
farting harddrives
#5.1 Mr. Dick C. Normous on 25 Jun 2005 - 20:25
PLEASE tell me you don't mist when you fart I really hope you do your own laundry if so LOL.
#5.2 epple on 26 Jun 2005 - 14:51
Haha, busted!
(3 replies) #6 jb23fan on 25 Jun 2005 - 18:03
Whats great is when u drop ur laptop and the chemical mist squirts everywhere, burning all surrounding people, and ending ur game of solitaire early..
#6.1 TheSarge on 25 Jun 2005 - 18:31
How, exactly, is this "Great"?
Anyways, the drive doesn't "Squirt everywhere" or at least it's not designed to do that. It just mists the destrutive chemical INSIDE the hard drive shell, spraying it over and around the platters. Sure, if you rig the thing to sqirt in a malicious manner than you could do stupid things with it... but I'm fairly sure that's not what the designers had in mind.
Then there's the little fact that a chemical that is destructive to the data-layers on a hard drive need not be of a toxcicty that would be a severe skin iritant (although I will admit that it is possible that the chemical would likely be somewhat toxic).
#6.2 Octol on 25 Jun 2005 - 22:45
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Anyways, the drive doesn't "Squirt everywhere"...

Obviously, you need to download Microsoft's Joke Recognition Software:

http://www.microsoft.com/joke-recognition.htm
#6.3 jb23fan on 26 Jun 2005 - 21:33
atleast someone has a sense of humor
(1 reply) #7 matocaster on 25 Jun 2005 - 18:05
I personally think it would be funny if they exploded, then the person who stole it would get what was coming to them.
#7.1 TheSarge on 25 Jun 2005 - 18:38
I've often wondered what would happen if you secretly replaced the hard drive with Folger's Crystals and then observed the owner as he tries to figgure out what's wrong.
(1 reply) #8 nic on 25 Jun 2005 - 18:39
my PC case has a "trigger" that you can hook up to anything that completes a circuit when the cpu case is opened. I haven't hooked it up to anything.

I had a thought to hook up explosives the bottom of my hard drives and then connect the trigger. But there really isn't anything on there that I'd care enough about. Well, except my doomsday device designs.

Is data encryption not enough? I guess if it is encrypted it can be decrypted..so apparently not for some people.
#8.1 AJCrowley Esq on 27 Jun 2005 - 11:27
I South Africa they sell these brilliant things - shotgun mines. It's basically a little metal device that clips onto a 12 bore shotgun shell. It can be rigged to a tripwire or similar, and when triggered, it just detonates the shell. Typically they're useful under the pedals of your car to "de-foot" anyone who tries to steal it, or anyone stupid enough to rig one up and forget. Now if you could load one of these bad boys into your laptop, you'd be set.
(3 replies) #9 Colin-uk on 25 Jun 2005 - 18:51
great idea, now you can quickly and easily get rid of those warez when you get a visit from the FBI

#9.1 Axon on 25 Jun 2005 - 18:59
Just what I was thinking

-Ax
#9.2 elliot on 25 Jun 2005 - 21:59
hehe
#9.3 AJCrowley Esq on 27 Jun 2005 - 11:28
If you have $9,000 to spend on a laptop hard drive, why wouldn't you just buy the software/movies/music?
(5 replies) #10 bucko on 25 Jun 2005 - 19:11
You guys heard of backing up to DVD and leaving them at home. LoL you must be dumb to leave critical data on mobile devices that can easily be nicked, oh have you heard of fist as well lol!
#10.1 TheSarge on 25 Jun 2005 - 20:21
Hey, Bucko: Some people use their laptop as their primary computer. In fact, that's the predominant trend these days. It's called a desktop replacement.
#10.2 bucko on 25 Jun 2005 - 21:12
yes I have one my self and it's my main desktop replacement, however I never keep my data on it, back it up to external hard drive and burn it to dvd.
#10.3 nic on 26 Jun 2005 - 05:53
bucko: wow, what a waist of time. Sorry man, but that seems really pointless. Part of the convenience of having a laptop is that you can have all your data on the go. You must have some super sensitive stuff.
#10.4 bucko on 26 Jun 2005 - 12:02
yer coursework and a lot of people go on my laptop at college, what if I turn around and it's not there?
#10.5 DomFel on 27 Jun 2005 - 01:29
What if you can keep your data safe at home? Hard to imagine for a teen eh?
#11 GM_Axis on 25 Jun 2005 - 19:24
Kickass!
(1 reply) #12 Matt on 25 Jun 2005 - 20:49
id alwasy preferred explosive drives. screw mist, i'd want my drive to explode if someone stole it.

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#12.1 slang123 on 26 Jun 2005 - 15:37
LOL, best post yet
(1 reply) #13 AMDMEFX-55 on 25 Jun 2005 - 21:04
I want one in my head that way if someone trys to still my ideas the mist kills me.
#13.1 bucko on 25 Jun 2005 - 21:13
don't patents do a similar thing
#14 yizuman on 25 Jun 2005 - 21:39


Smart: "This is ridiculous! This new assignment is making me look and feel like a sissy!"

Agent 99: "Well, this is what you get when you dialed the boss' computer laptop number and caused his hard drive to explode because you dialed the wrong extension number!"

#15 christracy on 25 Jun 2005 - 21:49
"this hard drive will self mist in 5 seconds"... yeah i'd like something a bit more, noticable.
#16 Alex the man on 25 Jun 2005 - 21:55
What a Brilliant idea not sure i could afford one tho, i guess if u needed that sort of security at least the technology will be around
#17 Dirtie on 25 Jun 2005 - 22:29
I think there is too much of a risk when using this technology. I mean data theft is bad, but if your data got somehow erased (perhaps years of hard work - though you'd be silly not ot back it up) you'd be just as pissed.
(1 reply) #18 Octol on 25 Jun 2005 - 23:00
This obviously isn't about mere data protection; there are just too many ways to protect your data without destroying it, like Steganos Safe.

No, I think this is about destroying data that one just can't allow to fall into the wrong hands—like a drug dealer's list of clients, transactions, and bank account numbers. In such a situation, destroying the data would be the only way to keep someone from, for example, torturing you to extract the information.
#18.1 Marduk on 26 Jun 2005 - 07:27
Or a pedofile in police custody about to have his home searched, "Let me have my one phone call please officer" LOL!
#19 Memento_Mori on 25 Jun 2005 - 23:33
i think the GPS location thing is really cool, just dont forget to shut it off next time you take a road trip lol
(1 reply) #20 mealbundy on 26 Jun 2005 - 00:00
Simpler way would be to leave the data at the company, access it remotely. See, no worries about someone stealing your laptop! DUH!
#20.1 Darkinspiration on 27 Jun 2005 - 03:45
You forget that no matter where your data is, trace of it might be still recoverable localy or even worse the acess key for connecting to it.
(1 reply) #21 AshMan on 26 Jun 2005 - 02:18
Just to let you know, such "erasable" drives will are illegal under UK law and will not be permitted for civilian use. I suspect the same is the case for the US too.
#21.1 werejag on 26 Jun 2005 - 16:48
how will that be illegal? under what laws. give examples.
#22 warwagon on 26 Jun 2005 - 02:59
ok so let me get this straight, you break the bank just so you can destroy your data at a moments notice.
#23 TheSarge on 26 Jun 2005 - 05:46
For some people, paranoia is not a problem: It is a way of life.
#24 shihchiun on 26 Jun 2005 - 11:41
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After all, would you be comfortable having an acidic mist inside your hard drive?

I wouldn't be comfortable having an acidic mist anywhere near me. Imagine if you had that on your lap and it somehow leaked..
#25 cold-peak on 26 Jun 2005 - 12:24
lol 1 problem, your drive could be faulty, you would never know unless you tested it!!!!!
(1 reply) #26 C-Fu on 26 Jun 2005 - 12:28
Does aybody know if we can bring this kind of laptop in airports?
#26.1 couture on 26 Jun 2005 - 17:02
Haha, that's a really good question.
#27 dougkinzinger on 26 Jun 2005 - 18:07
I will buy many of them
(1 reply) #28 Ruffneckting on 26 Jun 2005 - 19:57
Steal it, rip th battery out of it and voila! No GPS, No dial in just a box full of bits that you can sell on as parts.

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or even by changes in temperature.

Summer is here. "Can I have my data back?" response "err...NO"
#28.1 TheSarge on 26 Jun 2005 - 21:34
I doubt that EDT would be so stupid as to make a system like the one you describe.
This technology would probably be sold to OEMs for use in an integrated security platform (that is, laptops built specifily to take advantage of having a destructable HD). So, if you stole the thing and "ripped the battery out of it" without knowing the proper security procedures all you would be likely to end up with would be either a long prison sentance or a lot of broken junk.. or both. If you think laptops can't be rigged to fry their own circutry, you need to think again.
(1 reply) #29 Chris Firth on 26 Jun 2005 - 22:35
I would by one just to test it
#29.1 AJCrowley Esq on 27 Jun 2005 - 11:31
I've got a much better idea. Instead of spending $9,000 on a hard drive, just to see it destroy itself, you can send me $5,000, and I'll come over with a hammer.
#30 glasscleaner on 27 Jun 2005 - 01:59
hi bond, this laptop auto-destroy in 10 sec
#31 Ruffneckting on 27 Jun 2005 - 08:13
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I doubt that EDT would be so stupid....


Point taken, I just trying to put a different spin on it

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Drives will reportedly cost anywhere between a whopping $2,500 to $9,000


At that price you are not going to let it out of your sight!
(2 replies) #32 AethylFilth on 27 Jun 2005 - 12:26
Here's a thought: I could do this same thing with an electromagnet for < $50. If I'm paying $2500+ for an antitheft device, why not taket he GPS aspect and lety you track your laptop. So instead of even needing the data to be destroyed, you could just GET THE LAPTOP BACK.
#32.1 Yakkob on 27 Jun 2005 - 14:49
Yeah..

And also net yourself a THIEVEING TOE-RAG CHAV at the same time


#32.2 AethylFilth on 27 Jun 2005 - 15:33
I'll be honest, I had to look up "toe-rag chav", hehe

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