Microsoft Developers Turn to Linux

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Developers using Microsoft's Latest News about Microsoft popular Visual Studio .Net software engineering suite were today offered a plug-in that allows them to code Web applications forLinux Latest News about Linux. Referred to as Grasshopper, the freely available Visual MainWin for J2EE Developer Edition is designed to link Visual Studio development to Linux and J2EE server deployments.

Grasshopper was designed by Mainsoft and is claimed to be the first Visual Studio-based IDE for Linux. It enables developers to develop, debug and deploy Web applications and Web services for Windows, Linux and any Java-enabled platform using Visual Studio software, C# and Visual Basic .Net. The offering is aimed at individual developers and small user group deployments.

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Microsoft neither denied nor confirmed Shimpi's findings - instead deciding to play a wildcard. "Xbox 360 will have the hardware, software and services to enable breakthrough gaming and entertainment experiences that will blow consumers away." Which means we'll find out when the platform launches, later this year.

Finally, last week saw another Nintendo Revolution poster creep onto the internet. This time containing the words "Something is going ON" which is oddly suggestive. Those who remember the fake VirtualBoy-esque "headset" can once again get excited, as this new poster suggests that the Revolution will sense movement, via the headset.

Unfortunately the headset is extremely unlikely, however a movement sensor could still be implemented.

(2 replies) #1 ripgut on 05 Jul 2005 - 21:48

#1.1 parkker on 06 Jul 2005 - 00:23

Java is very, very slow. Especially on Linux.

I do think it is fantastic for Microsoft bottom line that someone would spend hundreds or thousands of dollars for Visual Studio to work on Java apps for Linux. That sure says a lot about programming tools on Linux. (Not good things).

#1.2 metallic on 06 Jul 2005 - 07:09

This is one of the most obvious trollings I have ever seen.

(1 reply) #2 nw_raptor on 05 Jul 2005 - 21:51

Uh! Sloppy copy-paste!

Story was worth reading though...

#2.1 bjc4ever on 06 Jul 2005 - 04:02

lol realized it too

#3 kyro on 05 Jul 2005 - 23:08

yessss .... it begins..... slow but steady

(9 replies) #4 Adequate on 05 Jul 2005 - 23:52

That's a blatant lie!

Never would an honest company such as Microsoft turn to the hackers' community (known as open-source) and give up their roots!

#4.1 TheSarge on 05 Jul 2005 - 23:56

Hah. Hah. Ha.
Ha ha.
You're joking, right?
M$ is a company founded on stealing other people's work.
Their moto is:
Microsoft: We Copy Only The Best Technology; We steal the rest.

#4.2 Adequate on 06 Jul 2005 - 00:08

That kind of reply is one of a fanboy that is unable to accept facts and who twists them so it fits them better.

Lies, lies, all blatant lies! And everyone knows that!

#4.3 Mengha on 06 Jul 2005 - 00:24

Adequate why are you posting in every news item about hackers?

#4.4 Adequate on 06 Jul 2005 - 00:25

Because I'm telling the truth nobody wants to accept!

#4.5 rm20010 on 06 Jul 2005 - 01:00

I think the truth is both of you are going too far with overexaggerated BS.

Fact: Microsoft isn't completely honest. They also do copy ideas from others. But this is typical of almost every large corporation on this planet, so get over it. It's not like Microsoft exists just to copy and steal from everyone - they exist to do their share in the software world.

Fact: Linux isn't a community of hackers. I don't see every Linux user pulling apart the distribution just to get the OS to work the way they want it to. Open source is for a large global community to share the work on a software project, not hack it to death and exploit any bugs they find.

Fact: Both of you are good examples of fanboys on either side.

Anyways. About this article, I don't see any harm for anyone. Just developers wanting to develop for yet another platform. Quote:

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According to a recent study by Evans Data Corporation, more than a quarter of European developers using Visual Studio .Net as their primary development environment have written an application for Linux, and more than a third are likely to write a Linux application next year.

May not go in the direction of open source, but this might mean more applications available for Linux.

#4.6 Help on 06 Jul 2005 - 01:28

Adequate: By your definition of 'hacker'. I'd be hacking if I repaired my car either by myself/someone that's not from the original manufacture.

#4.7 Adequate on 06 Jul 2005 - 06:31

Each and everyone of you who answered are zealots! Of the worst kind, might I add!

You try to continuously rebutt the facts that I bring forth, so you can trick yourselves into thinking you're right. However, you are wrong, and that's the one and only truth. Saying otherwise is a blatant lie!

Your level of ignorance disgusts me! I never knew this world was filled with such incompetents!

#4.8 mr_demilord on 06 Jul 2005 - 08:29

Errrmmmmmmmm whats the point what you wanna make? What is so bad about Open Source???
Do you know what a hacker is?

Hacker is a term used to describe different types of computer experts. The media and the general population typically use the term to mean "computer criminal"; however, in many computer subcultures it simply means "clever programmer", with no connotation of computer security skill. It is also sometimes extended to mean any kind of expert, especially one who has particularly detailed knowledge or cleverly circumvents limits.

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#4.9 lbmouse on 06 Jul 2005 - 13:09

It's not like Microsoft exists just to copy and steal from everyone - they exist to do their share in the software world

Microsoft, like any other business venture, exists to make money for its share/stakeholders. Microsoft, unfortunately unlike most other business ventures, routinely makes money by imitation rather than by innovation. The fact that they "do their share in the software world" is just a byproduct. There is nothing immoral or illegal with this, it’s just what they do and they do it very well.

Linux, like most other OSS projects, exists as a community effort to produce tools. The stakeholders are the people in the community and not stockholders looking for profit. You really can't compare the OS community with a company.

:: Adequate's parents must have gotten home from work.

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(2 replies) #5 Help on 06 Jul 2005 - 01:29

Microsoft is investing their time and money on Linux to make the transition from Linux to windows (and other home-brewed products) easier.

#5.1 mr_demilord on 06 Jul 2005 - 08:31

Funny how hard MS tries that, but MS wont ever see me again,

/me waves at microsoft

#5.2 EduardValencia on 06 Jul 2005 - 18:05

well it can be,as a strategic move,but that isn't all about this,it's about "interoperability" mainly

#6 TwoTailedFox on 06 Jul 2005 - 02:37

NTFS Read/Write support in Linux, and Read/Write support for Ext2/3, ReiserFS/4, and other exotic file systems.

Unless I start seeing that, I'm really not going to raise an eyebrow about the Linux vs. Windows war

#7 bsharp on 06 Jul 2005 - 03:39

I like the idea of portable cross platform apps.

(1 reply) #8 SomeOneElse on 06 Jul 2005 - 05:43

Mainsoft are the one responsible for the W2K source code leak.

#8.1 mr_demilord on 06 Jul 2005 - 08:40

#9 Colin-uk on 06 Jul 2005 - 09:56

thats nice of them

#10 mr_da3m0n on 06 Jul 2005 - 13:02

Sounds nice, if you have forked the large wad of dough to pay for Visual Studio, which *is* an awesome IDE to some, allright, this can be useful. Very useful -- it would potentially bring more weight in the "our webserver should run on linux" corporate debate.

Moreover, it makes me smiles whenever interoperability is forced upon Microsoft. I mean, most often than whatnot, whenever they do something that I could find neat, it's locked down to one platform, and requires your whole architecture, network and workstations to be Windows only.

*takes his best brit accent... well, considering he's canadian*

And now for something completely different.

Now if I see another of those trolls saying incoherent blabber and nonsense, I puke. I wonder what's wrong with these forums as of lately, there has been a surge of immature and blatantly pointless posts that triggers mods to be sightly more anal about what is an offense than before -- which is just the normal reaction. But it bugs me and makes me wonder about the validity of contributing here.

#11 anog on 06 Jul 2005 - 22:25

This is a completely misleading title...
The article is about a plugin for a Microsoft IDE, not about Microsoft programmers starting to program in Linux...

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