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Shall we all have a pool on how long it takes to crack this?

put me down for 2 weeks.

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HD-DVD discs, on the other hand, will work on existing players

wow i did not know this, too bad the players wont output HD, so you will need a new player if you want to watch HD media. but the disk should hold a lot of SD TV thats good, episodes of TV shows, hell one or two seasons on one disk. Thats good for the anime folks, i saw Urusei yatsura tv shows on DVD, 4 epsidoes per DVD is nuts when there are over 200 epsidoes, same for DBZ.

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Put me down for 1 week on Linux and BSD Systems, and 2 weeks for Windows-based Machines

i give them 4 weeks just to give them the benefit of the doubt

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Shall we all have a pool on how long it takes to crack this? put me down for 2 weeks.

Put me down for 3-1/2 weeks - just because there isnt a player for it ... YET!

....... at least the new format will make the current drives/writers cheaper

I bet it takes much longer to bypass, if it ever gets bypassed at all - in fact, I bet the anti-piracy measures are so aggressive it causes errors in normal use, or with players that might not be perfectly calibrated (like how Starforce 3 protected Battlefield 2 doesn't work on my roomate's Samsung CD/RW/DVD-ROM drive).

BD-ROM's come in caddies, yes? I sure hope so, I'd hate to scratch one since I can't back them up.

Boy-cott? Since consumers are the one's losing out on this clearly. It's not right if you can't make a back up copy for yourself. They won't replace the item, damn sure of it.

It doesn't matter how good this copy protection system is, there will be ways around it and should they be expensive, it still doesn't matter, because it only needs to be ripped once then it's all over the internet.

I think this move is stupid, all it's going to do is force more people to download the already ripped content in order to make their own backups, which they are perfectly entitled to do.

I''l give it 4 weeks, which is more than generous for "their protection" to be cracked. They are wasting a lot of money on new protections that wont last, and their cost to research these new protections get passed on to the consumer that of course doesn't want the protections in the first place.

Then again, if you read any articles about this that are just a bit better, like this one, you 'll see that there is a bit more to it than that. They want to be able to send a "self destruct" signal to the units if a "bad" disk is detected, requiring a service visit to make the unit operational again. Unit must be online. Tell me how long it will take for somebody that does not like this scheme to either send bogus destruct codes to all units online, or write a virus that does the same and distribute it via a movie/tv download.

Tell me also, how much you would like it if, say, your internet goes down for technical reasons (cut cable.. whatever). "Oh," you think to yourself, "I'll just pop in a disk to watch for a bit." but noooooo... "Can't authorize disk" because guess what, the shiny new tech has to be ONLINE TOO. DOH!!

This, my friends, will be dead before it gets out of the gate in any usage other than strictly a console format (think Nintendo cartridges). If you weren't around for the original DIVX debacle, well, welcome to part deux, Bigger, Faster, and with more 'splosions..

Show me somebody that says this don't suck, and I'll show you somebody that works for Sony.

will be cracked as everything has, these "protections" give hackers a reason to live. To outsmart them which we all know they have achieved time and time again.

I just hope these 'new players' will be compatible with Blu-ray/divx6 n xvid/hd-dvd and all current filetypes as i like an all Player rather than one that only plays dvds because thats just bull**** waste of money.

The Swedish kid (was he Swedish?), who's actually a young man now LOL who cracked CSS and created those workarounds for iTunes DRM, probably has less free time on his hands so it'll likely take him a little longer. It will be undone, but I've a suspicion the MPAA will be more litigious this time around. They'll also probably push for a super DMCA to make it criminally punishable to even stick it in your "non-MPAA-certified" computer.

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I mean... if I can't watch my DVD on my computer without having to install some spyware software that comes on the DVD or make backup of those blue-ray disk... i just won't buy any...
I mean... it's there choice...
either they play fair.. or else I won't buy any

listen, I won't die because I don't buy a movie.... but if a lot of people thinks like me... they will die

anyway... if there's something to be circonvented to let people watch their movie without being spyed on like thieft... i'll help to get this bypass scheme myself damn it

They can just keep them if they have to be validated online or something stupid like that. It's not like there are a lot of good movies coming out these days anyway. I can live with my DVD and LD collection, and if there are any good movies in the future I'll just record them later on.

so let's get this straight? we will have to buy a new DVD unit, a new Monitor that works with the DRM that Vista(that has to be bought too) will include so we can play a god damm movie in our computers

I see how this tech is going to be usefull

i give 32 minuetes because of obsessed hacker/cracker teams.

This is bad news to me making blu-ray an another hassle

lol yet another scheme that probably will cost thousands and thousands to license to hollywood that will be cracked before its public lol/ they never learn. oh well. less money for them. only thing s well have to hear them whine and complain and they'll pad the cost of the movies with the license fees of that crap. so your paying for the right not to back it up. greed sure makes people less bright. i mean. unless they plan on having an exchange system for scratched discs. then well see how long there protection lasts

i'm sure hackers will create a kind of mod chip that will make these new discs play without the need of new monitors (in the case of computers) or bypass any checks the player will make to check if the disc is original or not