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TiVo to Test Internet Download Service

dw2003   on 14 August 2005 - 07:16 · 19 comments & 4471 views

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Add TiVo Inc. to the list of companies trying to wed the Internet to television. The digital recording company will soon allow customers to download TV shows to their set-top boxes via the Internet — even before the shows air on TV.

TiVo has struck a deal with the Independent Film Channel to transmit several of the cable channel's shows through a broadband connection as part of a trial program. Participating customers will begin receiving the shows next week, said TiVo spokesman Elliot Sloane.

Sloan confirmed that TiVo sent messages to its customers — later posted on the technology Web log Engadget.com — offering to transmit three IFC shows beginning Aug. 19, before they aired on the cable channel.

News source: Yahoo News



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#1 Jeremy1 on 14 Aug 2005 - 07:25
IFC... wooooo
#2 Inertia on 14 Aug 2005 - 07:26
lol
(1 reply) #3 Matt on 14 Aug 2005 - 13:16
let me guess. this will only affect tivo series 2 customers. :rolleyes;
#3.1 Dayon on 14 Aug 2005 - 15:57
The series 1 TiVo doesn't have the hardware capabilities to do this.

-No USB ports. You can crack the case and shove an expensive 10mbps NIC in there, but no manufacturer would ever want you to do that.

-It has a very slow processor. The processor in the Series 1 is slower and a different architecture than the series 2. Even if TiVo recompiled their software to work with the S1, it would slow the TiVo down so much that it would be unbearable.



The real annoyance is that this won't ever reach DirecTV users. My series 2 is exactly the same as any other series 2 Standalone TiVo except for the fact that it has two sat tuners in it, and runs a lower software version because DirecTV refuses to release the newer software to us.
(4 replies) #4 lylesback2 on 14 Aug 2005 - 16:19
wtf? why is TiVo any different from downloading a tv show using a program? that's retarded... i love double standards
#4.1 SFalcon on 14 Aug 2005 - 16:27
If you honestly think this is the same as downloading a torrent of your favorite show, you are a fool. TiVo is a subcription based service, and I'm sure IFC gets paid for allowing the downloads.
#4.2 lylesback2 on 14 Aug 2005 - 16:33
i pay for my internet, and my cable tv. so what if you download a tv show off a torrent or you download it off TiVo... it's BS. and ya, im sure tv shows will get royalties.
#4.3 Ravensworth on 14 Aug 2005 - 21:17
No, your argument is BS. What you pay for your internet hasn't a thing to do with downloading TV shows. I pay for car insurance but that doesn't mean I can drive to a store and walk out without paying for stuff. As far as paying for cable TV, you're quite free to record any show you like, but that does not mean you can also download shows off the internet.
#4.4 threedaysdwn on 15 Aug 2005 - 19:18
I think what he's saying is that if I pay for cable TV, especially something like HBO, I should be able to download Real Time with Bill Maher and other TV shows that air on HBO.

The problem really isn't that I'm not allowed to download those shows, it's that you (and I) are not allowed to *share* those shows, because then you're giving people who haven't paid for them access.

Of course, if HBO were smart they'd let subscribers download whatever they wanted.

Then there's the completely different issue of advert-based shows. Do the downloads contain the advertisements? If so, then I'd say you've got a tough argument against them. However, if (as is common) the commercials are stripped out - then you get into to difficult territory.

Of course you can always fast-forward the commercials. But you can do that with a DVR box or even a VCR if you wanted to.

I don't think there are any clear answers as to what's right and wrong... And I don't think the TV studios are smart enough to figure it out without a long, drawn out and painful learning process.

Aside from news programs, there are very specific TV shows that I want to watch. Those include Stargate SG1 and Atlantis, Top Gear, USA's "The 4400", Family Guy and American Dad.

If I could pay a small subscription fee for each of those and download the episodes in a clean, HD format (without any *cumbersome* DRM), I would gladly do it. The cable companies wouldn't like it (although they're still getting my broadband money), but the TV studios could go directly to the consumer - drop the advertising model - and make a killing whilst providing me a better service.

The real trick is to make the first several episodes of a season completely free. At least 2 or 3 of them. Then charge a subscription or even a Per-Season fee. Something like you'd pay for the DVD set. Except they don't need to market through stores, stamp discs, or anything like that... just buy a server.
(3 replies) #5 imcrazydammit on 14 Aug 2005 - 17:03
A pay-per-download system for TV episodes would be an awesome alternative to trying to find torrents for the shows I miss. Although I'm sure Tivo and other companies will want to stream everything so they can use a monthly subscription plan instead of a one time fee. I really believe that it promotes piracy when you don't give the consumer what they are looking for.
#5.1 Ravensworth on 14 Aug 2005 - 21:18
It's coming, might be a long time yet but it will get here. Someday you'll be able to choose from an entire library of old shows and movies and pick which one you want to watch, when you want.
#5.2 Sub on 15 Aug 2005 - 04:11
Actually its here...In Florida. I can select from thousands of diffrent show via On-Demand. For example, I can select any of the HBO's that played today, or watch guitar lessons...
#5.3 threedaysdwn on 15 Aug 2005 - 19:20
Haha, that's not specific to Florida We had that in NY years ago, and it's here in Washington too.

But it's not the same... it's streamed, not downloadable. And the library changes all the time. I can't go through and watch any episode of Stargate ever, for example.

And most cable companies charge you extra fees for OnDemand access to HBO, even if you're an HBO subscriber.
(3 replies) #6 jadkins555 on 14 Aug 2005 - 20:49
I hope this takes off. I am a DirecTV subscriber so this won't hit me in any form unless TiVo's experiment turns out to be successful. Anyway, I would love to have this feature.
#6.1 Dayon on 15 Aug 2005 - 00:11
DirecTV users will NEVER have this. We can't even share files between multiple TiVos in our homes. DirecTV's content providers won't allow it.

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#6.2 Ravensworth on 15 Aug 2005 - 00:22
What about Dish Network? I was thinking about getting something like TiVo for mine (though I'm leaning more towards a Panasonic DVR now).
#6.3 quick on 15 Aug 2005 - 00:48
Directv is dumping tivo soon enough going to make thier own software for thier own boxes...

Still though they will down the road implement this someday but not as a tivo.

And don't get me wrong i love tivo, its their software that makes the box great... try using another dvr after using a tivo these days, you will be pissed off...

I just bought a HD DVR Tivo, yesterday form directv... might as well get it while it lasts :/
#7 Echelon Left on 14 Aug 2005 - 23:28
I can see how people would pay for this kind of service, if it ever really gets off the ground.
Remember, this is just a pilot program.
#8 Help on 15 Aug 2005 - 00:45
lol, testers will be able to download episodes that are yet to air. That will definitely ruin the suspense for certain shows.

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