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me too, yesterday

but this will be released on October, maybe November

Yeah I just got mine today!

You just need to use the update program, and you'll be using the latest and greatest version.

Yeah i got mine a few days ago too lol...

Do most of you folks that order the disks just not have broadband, or are you just getting them to say you have "official" disks? If you have broadband, you have to realize that the disks are really meant for people that don't have easy access to download the software, though they are happy to send them to anyone. It's certainly not the most efficient way to get it, but for some, it's the only way.

Judging by the messages I read on different forums, and the time they got disks for both warty and hoary, I'd say you'd get breezy disks close to the time the next release is ready.

I do have broadband, though I just update my installation. But I ordered CDs because I like having CDs + I gave almost all of them to my friend and coworkers. I also use LiveCD I got as a rescue disk. Giving users CDs so they can share it with their friends is a great way to spead this software as it's REALLY good, I switched completely from Windows to Ubuntu like 4 or 5 months ago.

It's better than their last name, "Hoary Hedgehog".

I'm waiting for the "Rancid Roadkill" release.

Gotta love the names!

Well, according to the Distrowatch.com "page hit rankings", Ubuntu is #1 in interest by a long ways! (the 2004 listing shows it at #13, but everything more current has Ubuntu on top)

My only issue with the Press Release is this comment:

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Ubuntu is a Linux distribution for your desktop or server

It seems that Ubuntu is a bit more "cutting/bleeding edge" than you would want for a server, plus it really is desktop-focused. Sure, you can use it as a server, too, but that isn't its focus.

Looks like markjensen beat me to it, but...
Per the DistroWatch page, the "Hits Per Day" rankings are as follows:
1 Ubuntu 2740<
2 Mandriva 1641<
3 Fedora 1312<
4 SUSE 1284<

It IS a rather nice system, I'm using Kubuntu 5.04 personally, and it's working pretty well for me

lol...way to have no idea what you are talking about

Yeah, I am hooked on Ubuntu, it's powerful because it's based in Debian, it's cutting/bleeding edge because well they want to be for there test releases, and it's insanely easy to install and get going. It's a solid choice for anyone who wants to try linux and for others who are experienced with linux already.

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I wouldn't exactly call Ubuntu a major Linux distro, but it is a nice one.

Then I would have to say you're a bit out of touch.

Um, you kiddies are talking about Geek downloads. When HP, Dell or IBM starts offering it with their workstations or servers, then it'll be a major distro. Until then.....

Actually, when you have the majority of current mindshare, and millions of dollars in the bank, you're a major distro.

HP and IBM offer server systems, not desktops. Dell does (or at least did try to) offer Linux, not sure about which one. Linux will be offered to users soon, it's not quite ready yet for an average Joe, but there are big changes and cleaningups going on in Linux world at the moment so there is a bright future ahead of Linux desktop.

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Um, you kiddies are talking about Geek downloads. When HP, Dell or IBM starts offering it with their workstations or servers, then it'll be a major distro. Until then.....

So would this count as big enough for you?

"PC World magazine named Ubuntu Linux one of its "100 Best Products of 2005". And it has won numerous other awards. A special version was developed by Hewlett-Packard for its laptop computers that are sold in Europe, the Middle East and Africa."

And one more.... that should do it.


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LOL! You beat me to it .

"HP to ship Ubuntu PCs, serious about Linux"

check the official forums for breezy, I'm pretty sure theres a thread in there regarding MythTV. As for upgrading, it's as easy as replacing all the references to hoary in sources.list w/ breezy and running sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.

ps: been running breezy for about a week now, and nothing has broken/crashed yet.

As easy as that, eh?

I was going to give Linux a go (for like the 3rd time, each Time I try it I always end up hitting a different problem) but if that's what it takes just to update it, I might just put it off a little longer :/

You will update to Breezy automatically, when it's considered stable by the developers.

You can just open 'Synaptic' and press the 'Update' or 'Upgrade' button (don't know which one, I usually don't use Debian-based distros).

Sometimes, people may make it sound hard, but if they state a command line option in easy distros, it's often possible using a GUI too ;-)

As I said above: using Synaptic.

Example: http://tapsa.terae.net/linux/kuvat/rh9/synaptic.png

I would suggest doing a fresh install if you want to go from hoary to breezy. Dist-upgrading will work but I've learned that starting from scratch is less of a hassle.

I installed the preview release today and I must say, it's nifty. Goodbye to hoary.

It might be less of a hassle if you've got a bunch of software that was manually installed or something, but dist-upgrade is one of the strong points of all Debian based distros. I've actually used dist-upgrade to *downgrade* from unstable to stable in the Debian tree (note that I don't reccommend this proceedure unless you really know what you're doing). One great thing about Debian distros is that you only have to install them once.

I certainly wouldn't say Ubuntu is easier than anything. Both Mepis and PCLinuxOS usually come out on top for ease of use. Ubuntu seems to have hit the sweet spot between ease of use and flexability. For me, it's pretty much identical to Debian as far as installation and use, but it includes more current desktop and apps packages in it's stable release (wheras in Debian you have to go to the testing or unstable branch to get this software). This is offset by the fact that it does not have the vast repositories that Debian does... and no, adding the Debian repositories is not the greatest idea known to man, as there are conflicts. You might be able to get away with it for a little while, but it will catch up to you if you're not familiar with how to handle broken packages. You will also run into the occasional conflict while using the Ubuntu universe/multiverse repo's. Simply a trade-off of stability and software choice for more cutting edge software. Seems alot of people find this acceptable .

As far as having to "Learn" linux, Ubuntu is just as easy, or hard, as you care to make it.. just like most any other distro (yes, there are exceptions).

It uses either FAT16, FAT3, Ext2, Ext3, ReiserFS, Reiser4, JFS, XFS, or a few other ones.

NTFS is Windows NT-Series only. If you're lucky, you might get NTFS read-only support in Linux, since write support isn't supported yet.

i thought fedora core 4 could be patched to write NTFS? maybe i am making that up

Reading NTFS is quite simple in Ubuntu, I think this module is included already, forget about write support thought. I'm using EXT3 in Linux and can access my NTFS partition with Windows on it, everything else is on FAT32 partitions (I converted from NTFS since for FAT32 there read-write support). I'll completely switch to EXT3 soon.

Write support on NTFS is working, but you probably have to edit the fstab, because it has most probably set it to <ro> instead of <rw>

Naaaaaaaaaaaah

NTFS *READ* is supported under the Linux kernel. It just has to be either compiled in or as a module.

Now, as for NTFS *WRITE* that is not supported in any useful manner. Back then, you had a destructive, dangerous way of doing this that would result in your partition table disapearing into thin air. Now, there is a "safe" way that is perfectly stable, but it is irellevent. You can only *edit* files, if they are larger than a certain size, and if in the end, post-change, the filesize is still the same.

Hardly useful.

Now, Captive NTFS is an option (involved hooking up the NT kernel drivers through Linu. It works, has some limitations, and is kinda slow. But it works.