PDC 2005: Microsoft's goodies begin to be revealed
Posted by Brad Wardell on 13 September 2005 - 19:02 · 11 comments & 5175 views
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#1 Posted by xxdesmus on 13 Sep 2005 - 19:16
- now i just need to get my hands on the build
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#2 Posted by Simplicity on 13 Sep 2005 - 19:34
- ya the build
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#3 Posted by Tommy2k4 on 13 Sep 2005 - 19:42
- "Developers on longer" should be no
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#4 Posted by Blackice on 13 Sep 2005 - 20:01
- its shameful that at a developers conference, all the people outside want is the vista build. They don't care about C# 3.0, "Atlas", or any of the cool technologies. They just care about having the next thing to show off...
Of course, the developers especailly want the Vista build, too (nothing like testing on the platform you're developing for).
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#5 Posted by Jugalator on 13 Sep 2005 - 20:14
- Well, Indigo is just a .NET library for communications. Take care to not make it bigger than what it is, or as a developer, you may get disappointed.
Indigo will NOT help a developer to just start hurling out awesome apps offering e.g. the "People Near Me" feature; thats results from hard work from expert MS developers. It will NOT make it "easy" to create cool P2P apps, etc. You still need to put in a lot of time to develop Indigo apps; maybe not basic networking, not even e.g. more high level XML communication, but for the end-user apps to form, it's still development as usual. There are no shortcuts, just aids you can get, such as a communications library like Indigo, or any other communications library we've used in the past. This is simply the .NET variant of that.
From what I've seen, it looks like a pretty good library though, just saying this to get the expectations right.
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#5.1 Posted by tiwaris on 13 Sep 2005 - 20:20
- In short, there is no shortcut to success.
Reading all this news excites me and motivates me to start learning all this stuff so as to become a powerful developer. How easy (or hard) it is to start venturing into development for longhorn environment such that your program makes optimal usage of APIs provided and that your coding time is minized, given that I am a newbie.
By newbie, I mean a person who has a basic knowledge of C++, C# and standard OS stuff.
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#6 Posted by Gen.arg on 13 Sep 2005 - 22:07
- have u guys saw this?
http://www.winfxhearts.com/
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#7 Posted by war on 14 Sep 2005 - 05:09
- Sure have gen and pretty fun to play.

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#8 Posted by Computer Guru on 14 Sep 2005 - 10:02
- Idigo is wonderful... I have been waiting for .net networking revolution and it has come
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To industry insiders, much of this isn't new. But during the keynotes, buzzwords like Avalon, Indigo, WinFX, and so forth began to take on greater weight as the real-world applications and advantages started to take shape.
For instance, one Microsoft technology "People Near Me" was demoed and is highly useful and yet so obvious that one wonders why this wasn't in there before. In the demo, two Microsoft employees were able to work together quickly without having to set up a bunch of shares. Instead, person A invites Person B who is "near them" into the People Near me applet. Then Person A drags and drops the Power Point app onto the share window and the other user can instantly see what that app is displaying. Then he dragged and dropped the actual PowerPoint file to enable the other user to be able to edit it. Edits on the file were instantly synchronized.
For developers, Indigo may be the "big thing". Anyone who's done network code in Windows XP knows how much of a pain it can be. Indigo seems to make this a much more streamlined experience. One Microsoft keynote speaker said "Developers on longer need to feel like plumbers."
Stay tuned.
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