Windows Vista build 5219 released to testers
Posted by Neowin Staff on 16 September 2005 - 10:28 · 45 comments & 21264 views
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#1 Posted by arrisb on 16 Sep 2005 - 10:31
- Bah, no sidebar or other goodies
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#1.1 Posted by scyphe on 17 Sep 2005 - 14:44
- Goodies included:
3D-lization of all currently running apps when pressing win+space, updating the screens realtime.
Hover mouse over apps in taskbar gives you a preview realtime shot of the app even though it's minimized.
And probably some other things I haven't found yet.
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#2 Posted by heslo on 16 Sep 2005 - 10:32
- Does this mean that the ISO leaked to the net is actually different than that to what MS is hosting?
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#2.1 Posted by Neobond on 16 Sep 2005 - 10:35
- Probably not, the PDC build that attendees got (and was probably leaked) is the same as this build.
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#2.2 Posted by heslo on 16 Sep 2005 - 10:41
- Ah, that's what I thought; so essentially there were two 5219 builds with different time stamps according to corresponding labs, one with sidebar, etc that remains with MS and one being handed out to testers at PDC and the wild?
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#2.3 Posted by Neobond on 16 Sep 2005 - 10:49
- People have been posting thats its possible to enable the sidebar, I haven't seen any guides other than someone saying the sysoc.inf file can be edited by removing all references of HIDE which enables the option to install sidebar functionality (I can't confirm this yet).
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#2.4 Posted by heslo on 16 Sep 2005 - 10:50
- Ah, that's similar to showing the hidden references in Add/Remove Programs. Well, once I get this build, I'll see if I can go about enabling it
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#2.5 Posted by Colin-uk on 16 Sep 2005 - 11:08
- found this on google
http://www.uxevolutions.com/refx/WindowsSidebar.jpg
dont know if its the same build..
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#3 Posted by Hurmoth on 16 Sep 2005 - 11:09
- Anyone else having problems installing ATI's LDDM drivers on this build?
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#3.1 Posted by Lexcyn on 16 Sep 2005 - 13:14
- Haha, I was until I moved my monitor from DVI port 1 to DVI port 2, and now it works perfect.
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#3.2 Posted by Hurmoth on 16 Sep 2005 - 13:36
- I have a notebook I'm trying to install it on... no DVI ports to work with
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#3.4 Posted by scyphe on 17 Sep 2005 - 14:46
- The biggest problem with LDDM/VDDM-drivers right now is that the technical spec. isn't finalized yet, and ATI/nVidia aren't likely to put much effort into making 100% drivers for something that will change with time. But I do wish they released refreshed drivers for each release to fix some of the serious bugs.
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#4 Posted by EvErSoR on 16 Sep 2005 - 11:24
- What are the additions/changes they made to the Tablet Edition compared to the Tablet 2005 Edition of XP. Does anybody know?
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#5 Posted by csabo2 on 16 Sep 2005 - 11:32
- That UX screenshot is not fron the build testers got, i know i installed it
our desktop does not come with the full build tag. Just says for evaluation purposes only
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#6 Posted by briangw on 16 Sep 2005 - 12:11
- Was there ever an invite code for testing Vista?
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#6.1 Posted by neufuse on 16 Sep 2005 - 12:59
- short answer, no. It went to MVP's and previous windows testers first, then additional people second
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#7 Posted by NewXStar on 16 Sep 2005 - 12:28
- <Removed> Don't advertise your own site
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#8 Posted by Lexcyn on 16 Sep 2005 - 13:15
- Yay, the x64 build has been released. I'll be installing that tonight.
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#9 Posted by Hankyone on 16 Sep 2005 - 13:30
- this build doesn't support my RAID SATA drivers anymore...
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#10 Posted by neufuse on 16 Sep 2005 - 13:31
- just to let people know, 5219 is a lot slower then 5112 was. It contains a lot of debugging information that is slowing down Aero and DWM. Install time may also be increased... This is an internal build, so they wern't trying to get everything working or make it fast. Also F6 load drivers doesnt work and partitioning doesnt work in setup when booted from DVD. You have to manunally partition it or integrate your RAID or SATA drivers into the setup, however, that is hard since XIMAGE doesn't work either from the old build with the new one.
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#10.1 Posted by ev0| on 16 Sep 2005 - 14:05
- that's not quite true; this build was polished up over a week because they knew they'd be releasing it to the PDC.
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#10.2 Posted by neufuse on 16 Sep 2005 - 15:23
- yes it is very true, MS is even posting messages in the private beta groups saying where all the bugs are and all the problems.. Includeing the F6 problem and performance issues
you have to remember the build they demoed at PDC isn't the same build of 5219 that the end users and testers got. MS disabled a lot of "inwork" stuff for the release and kept that stuff on for the demos only
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#10.3 Posted by Zerosignull on 16 Sep 2005 - 17:33
QUOTE his is an internal build, so they wern't trying to get everything working or make it fast.
wonders what they were doing then?
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#11 Posted by Yvo on 16 Sep 2005 - 13:50
- hmmm i remember when there was a time where MS released a new build every friday for windows betas. atleast testing made sense. testing on a 4-5 month old build really does no one good.
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#11.1 Posted by Yvo on 16 Sep 2005 - 13:51
- i am really talking about beta 1 here, not this release... sorry for the confusion
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#11.3 Posted by threedaysdwn on 16 Sep 2005 - 16:36
- Umm, I don't remember Windows ever releasing betas that often. Even back in the Win98 days... unless you mean before that.
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#11.4 Posted by Joshie on 16 Sep 2005 - 17:42
- Yeah, I remember those days. Especially during the Windows98/98SE era. There were regular builds available for download *only*. CD releases were fewer and farther between. But if you had the will to download it yourself, I'd say new ones were out every week or two.
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#12 Posted by UnaBonger on 16 Sep 2005 - 14:23
- What does "Media Center Functionality" mean? Is the MCE GUI part of this build?
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#12.1 Posted by Lasker on 16 Sep 2005 - 14:34
- is for high end computers, have more digital contents, pictures and video features
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#13 Posted by ThunderRiver on 16 Sep 2005 - 16:20
- Looks like either not a lot of beta testers are downloading or Microsoft provides higher bandwidth, I am getting it at close to 900 Kb/sec mmm not bad for me.
I know some of you get much much faster than my Comcast connection, but it is good enough for me.
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#14 Posted by frogworm on 16 Sep 2005 - 16:29
- patience is a virtue, finally get to download it legitimately. kinda sucks that they have to remove some PDC functionality.
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#15 Posted by Vandil on 16 Sep 2005 - 17:19
QUOTE The Pre-Beta 2 x86/32 build is a DVD image just over 2.8 GB in size and carries the label vista_usa_5219.050830-2010_x86fre_win-dvd.iso
That just made me laugh. As a news story, this unnecessary piece of information is only valuable to one group of people: pirates waiting for search criteria for eDonkey and BT.
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#15.1 Posted by TwoTailedFox on 16 Sep 2005 - 17:35
- Pfft. I had my copy downloading even before the news article went live
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#16 Posted by nerokill on 16 Sep 2005 - 17:36
- and when will it be on msdn
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#17 Posted by lylesback2 on 16 Sep 2005 - 22:03
- i think i accidently crashed Microsoft connect...
i was on the web site, i clicked "available programs" and it was signing me in.. then BOOM,
QUOTE Error: The system has encountered an unexpected error. We apologize for the inconvenience. An alert has been sent to the site administrators and the issue will be addressed as quickly as possible.
big error in red. now everytime i try the site.. keeps giving me the same error..
According to our source, this test build does not feature the sidebar or IE quick-tabs that have been demonstrated at the PDC. It does however include Tablet and Media Center functionality.
The Pre-Beta 2 x86/32 build is a DVD image just over 2.8 GB in size and carries the label vista_usa_5219.050830-2010_x86fre_win-dvd.iso, slightly different than the demo build.
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