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Microsoft: Nothing to gain from Firefox flaws

Michael Stanclift   on 08 October 2005 - 16:43 · 30 comments & 6092 views

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Microsoft claims it has not gained anything from the recent spate of security flaws that have been discovered in Firefox, even though the open-source browser is a rising rival to the software giant's Internet Explorer.

Peter Watson, chief security advisor at Microsoft Australia and New Zealand, told ZDNet Australia that the software maker did not get any pleasure from seeing Firefox suffer a string of security vulnerabilities, despite the open-source browser's growth seemingly being stunted over recent months.

"I don't think it creates any benefit for us or anybody in the ecosystem to turn around and say, 'It's good that this company has a whole load of security vulnerabilities'," said Watson.

Watson was humble in his assessment of Firefox's security issues, claiming that all new technologies are targeted by criminals: "Every new technology that comes out, somebody at some time will try and look for a way to exploit that for illegal purposes."

Watson explained that Microsoft's goal is to help build a secure and reliable platform for its own--and rival--technologies.

News source: CNET


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(9 replies) #1 theyarecomingforyou on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:01
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"I don't think it creates any benefit for us or anybody in the ecosystem to turn around and say, 'It's good that this company has a whole load of security vulnerabilities'," said Watson.


Isn't that good of them, what a nice company... hang on a second, wasn't that just a cheap shot to point out that Firefox has "a whole load of security vulnerabilities"? So they get good press and get to point out Firefox's problems without actually pointing them out... nice marketing there.
#1.1 KeR on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:04
I was going to point out the same.
#1.2 mr_demilord on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:11
thats the "Anti open source campaign" of M$
"open source is cancer"
#1.3 Ned on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:44
So I wasn't the only person to spot that...

Last edited by 76077 on 09 Oct 2005 - 03:11
#1.4 Rodrigo on 08 Oct 2005 - 19:16
Hey trolls, I don't think you are getting the point of that comment.

Next time try to not read like a dick, and you will get to the humble point.

#1.5 threedaysdwn on 08 Oct 2005 - 22:03
Wasn't it clear that Watson was asked about Firefox? It's not like this was an MS press release.
#1.6 Axon on 08 Oct 2005 - 22:17
Oh Come on guys, you're reading into that comment way to much.
#1.7 Shining Arcanine on 08 Oct 2005 - 22:20
I thought that was a gentlemanly strike on the Firefox zealots who have ranted and raved over the security holes found in IE for over a year now. Not an attempt to point something out.
#1.8 toadeater on 08 Oct 2005 - 22:56
MS, if you want to convince anyone, fix your bloated, bug-ridden software, instead of trying to slander small-time developers with .0000001 the budget you have.

Windows = Humpty Dumpty.
#1.9 Smigit on 09 Oct 2005 - 05:45
troll. MS wasnt slandering anyone and despite the fact The Mozilla Foundation has less money than Microsoft they still have several million in funds to work with. They arent exactly running from $0 expenses either.
(5 replies) #2 mr_demilord on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:09
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Watson explained that Microsoft's goal is to help build a secure and reliable platform for its own--and rival--technologies.

Does he mean the onecare and microsofts own antivirus with it?
#2.1 Jason on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:12
What if it does?, damn theres some strange people on this site.
#2.2 mr_demilord on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:20
Uhmmmmmmmm they sell a broken product with exploits bugs and flaws, wich the cunsumer pays 100's of dollars for.
So MS buys a company and brings out an antivirus for their OS wich is vurnable for virusses instead of intergrate it in the OS MS also sells the Antivirus for 100's of dollars.


It's like selling a car without locks, so the car company buys a a company which makes locks for cars and sell the locks for 1000's of dollars.

MS should fix the product, or intergrate it in the OS just like they should do with antispyware.

Last edited by 108898 on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:38
#2.3 SomeAzn on 08 Oct 2005 - 21:35
Last time they tried to integrate stuff in their OS, they got sued for it. Yeah, I don't think they want to try that again...
#2.4 threedaysdwn on 08 Oct 2005 - 22:04
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Uhmmmmmmmm they sell a broken product with exploits bugs and flaws, wich the cunsumer pays 100's of dollars for.
So MS buys a company and brings out an antivirus for their OS wich is vurnable for virusses instead of intergrate it in the OS MS also sells the Antivirus for 100's of dollars.


I was unaware that Microsoft was charging for any anti-malware or anti-virus software at this point.
#2.5 Smigit on 09 Oct 2005 - 05:44
Because we all know all software attacks are on the OS itself and that firewalls ect arent protecting other apps too.

It's not like microsoft isnt still patching the OS or working to make it more secure, and you tell me software that doesnt have holes besides your "hello world" app. If you dont like it dont use it, if you dont want to use one care use something else.
#3 mr_demilord on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:17
Some nice news.
Firefox 1.5 Beta2
(1 reply) #4 bangbang023 on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:22
Why does everyone read between the lines and try to find something that may not be there? This guy is being very modest and careful with his words. Mr. Ballmer could learn a thing or two from him.
#4.1 Jexel on 09 Oct 2005 - 01:23
I think it was rather nice of him to create a fair playing field and putting forward the idea that the only enemy in the software industry are the criminals who exploit programs. People should seriously stop making up accussations of what wasn't said.
(2 replies) #5 MtDewCodeRedFreak on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:39
I smell fanboyism coming in this thread ........ run!
#5.1 EduardValencia on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:48
yup,i already ran

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#5.2 rm20010 on 08 Oct 2005 - 19:06
<sarcasm><fanboy>Gimme an axe!</fanboy></sarcasm>

(1 reply) #6 Airlink on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:55
Microsoft is afraid of Firefox, so they atempt to spread their FUD. Don't listen to them.
#6.1 TRC on 08 Oct 2005 - 19:30
Didn't read the article?
(3 replies) #7 M2Ys4U on 08 Oct 2005 - 17:58
sure MS as a company say that, but I'm sure there are some individuals in the company smirk whenever a gecko/firefox flaw is announced.
#7.1 rm20010 on 08 Oct 2005 - 19:08
That's true. Nothing unexpected.

On a different context... maybe Mozilla openly laughs whenever IE suffers from a critical flaw.
#7.2 threedaysdwn on 08 Oct 2005 - 22:06
Some? Yeah probably.

But there are also plenty who use Firefox every day. I'm not one of them (I use Maxthon), but I know plenty who do.


Despite the borg jokes, not everyone at Microsoft thinks the same.
#7.3 Jexel on 09 Oct 2005 - 01:28
of course, that happens everywhere. People like to see others people suffer thus making themselves look better, whether or not at school or work, it's happening everywhere. I'm sure we've all done it in our lives, so its a blatently obvious remark that individuals at Microsoft would smirk at the vulnerabilities.
#8 hotrod on 09 Oct 2005 - 12:21
kinda ironic that this came from the infamous "Dr. Watson" LOL
#9 Magallanes on 10 Oct 2005 - 23:24
LOL

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