It's hard to believe that twenty years ago, Microsoft Windows was the underdog of the industry, now shipped on 95% of PC's worldwide PC Magazine poses the question, Whats beyond Vista? to Bill Gates.
View: The Full Article - There is also a nice round-up of Twenty years of Windows here.
MM: Obviously now you're working on Vista. But what is your vision for the future? What would you like to see over the next 10 years, the next 20 years?
BG: In the future, things are going to be far more user-centric where a user will have a computer at work, a computer at home, a phone, and other devices. So instead of starting with your state being on that computer, you really want your state – your documents, your contacts, your schedule -- all to be available to you on every device. And if you personalize something and say you like this, it shows up on all those other devices.
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I think what they see in the future is that you will have something like an ISP or maby even the ISP, provide personal server spaces for your files and software, as network speeds increase both wired and wireless, this gets more and more plausible. Just think about the possibilites. No longer is software licensess restricted to a single computer or system, the licence is for having it installed on your personal space. This also means that you can go to your friends place, and log on to your own space, and have your own desktop and software available there to.
You could think of it, kinda like steam, only that the files and data are stored and accessed on the steam server, instead of being downloaded and executed localy. (Steam allows you to access the account from several computers, but only one at a time)
I had a bunch of friends who lived at the student housing in the city a year back or so, and they all had 100mbit connections, so when we had a party or something, if one of them wanted to play a song or show of a cool webpage or whatnot, he just used remote desktop to do it. Also because of the speed of the connections they usaly used their home computers through the terminals at school to. Thats also a small way that we see the emergence of this new "era"
Its when you put all of thiese technologies (VPN, Terminal Computing, RDC, Portable Computing etc. etc) together and think what implications this and future technology will have, you come to the same conclution as you find in the article.
Undoubtedly this is a bit off into the future yet, but its pretty clear that this is a very possible/plausible way of the future.
I for one would love to have access to all my data all the time.
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My ISP already does this
Not a whole lot of space, but for the price and being part of the deal it's pretty good.
I'm sure I could get more universal space seamlessly integrated with Windows via e.g. WebDAV or something if I just looked around for it.
I can't *run* the apps from there (I need to download them first), but this is still stuff where the technology is here already, even a few years ago when talk about subscription based online services started. I'm not sure if there are such services online now, but it just seem to be a matter of finding a working business model, and not a tech obstacle.
I doubt they'll gladly let you run your own apps on their servers anytime soon though due to the security issues. They'd at the very least need to be coded so they don't expect read/write access to various places on the server anyway.
Last edited by 21023 on 14 Oct 2005 - 09:52
My dad accesses the same desctop, and software when he is at home one his laptop as when hes sitting in either his office in our hometown of tronheim, norway or when he is at their office in the capital oslo, norway. And all the software is executed on the mainframe, atleast afaik.
The only real "problem" would be that content providers would have even more controll over your software, and piracy would be realy hard to accomplish, that wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that a lot of software has moronic licencing schemes (Adobe photoshop for instance, should have a home licence that was like 50$ to get users hooked on the software, then let the corporate users pay the full price, cause honestly, how many home users do you think have payed for photoshop?
troll much?
Just FYI, Bill Gates has always said this the past 10 years or so as an answer to this question.
It's getting a bit worn out, especially as TODAY, users have a computer at work, at home, a (possibly smart) phone, and other devices (e.g. PDA's).
Yes, data synchronization isn't an unheard of feature and both Windows XP and PDA's support this feature to synchronize (wait for it...) documents, contacts, and your calendar with schedules and meetings. With e.g. Bluetooth that will happen before you get to sit down and start working on your workplace. We also... today... have web services if you prefer to store this information elsewhere at a universally accessible location assuming you have Internet access, wireless or not.
Last edited by 21023 on 14 Oct 2005 - 09:53
With a messy mind like mine, a geeky approach was just what the doctor ordered
http://broadband.sify.com/showplan.php?id=18
http://delhi.mtnl.net.in/commercial/broadband_tariff.htm
I thought that India was one of the places where Microsoft was selling Starter Edition, but I may be wrong.
And gaurav is right about the damn broadband services. Here we are stuck in dial-up hell. The plans offered by ISP's are completely ridiculous. 'Rip off' is a big understatement.
Well, everyone knows that starter edition sucks. had they priced win xp pro little lower, there would be no need for SE. an advanced, or even a regular user needs more than what SE provides.
SE is only for beginners who know nothing about computing, to help them grab the 'concept' of computing. and after the beginners become regular, they'll need more than SE.
He finally admits it!
When Microsoft put out SyncToy, my life got a little easier.
If it intersts you, the blog also talks about how I got to play PGR3 on Xbox 360
-Spenser
sounds to me like people are sheep in following on another mans hate
if bill did something to you personally then i understand but i really want to know why
he recieves so much hate? he got visions-the money to make them happen,we all have visions and dreams.
he did what alot of you did not come up with and regardless he owns the computer market.people are talking about apple will do this and that yeah right while apple is nice
i dont think a company will loose a market share of 95% overnight to a company that is just now up with the times-a photo ipod was how long in the making? and is not even a complete video ipod. everything apple is doing been done for over 3-4 years so innovation my ass.
i hope microsoft contiunes to excel-computer science rules
Because they think it's the popular thing to do. Have to jump on that bandwagon you know, trying to fit in.
:trips:
:falls under the wheels:
:is run over by the bandwagon:
:meep:
i'm ok
1) jealous of his money
2) jealous of his success
Some of the people on here who have posted comments about his dreams and visions being utter crap are probably using windows themselves........which may I add..is an operating sytem which is a stepping stone into the direction he is going. So if his ideas are crap I suggest those people stop using Windows now.
Those that have come out with stuff like "oh I can already synch my data with my pda and bla bla" - I don't think you guys understand where he is coming from. Of course data synchronisation is available but incredibly tedious at that. You need drivers then you need software and then you need to go around clicking buttons, dragging or dropping files etc etc. Try to think of having your data by you all the time as simply turning on your pda and accessing a personal zone if you like, all devices exchange data in much more realtime on a universal protocol. Wouldn't it be nice to open up a word document say.....or an image, edit it, then access the same resource on any device without having to copy it over or save to the originating device for example having that file updated on all devices as soon as you click save. Or think of playing your mp3 on your pc.............you then move to your pda, tablet pc or whatever and the mp3 is playing on there too....kinda strange I know but I think that's the kinda **** he's after.
Oh well time will tell.........
Microsoft isn't a leader, it's a predatorial integrator of existing technology others have pioneered through hard work and an honest desire to make a GOOD product. Hence the well-known comparison of Microsoft to The Borg. That is a legitimate business model I suppose, but try to give credit where it's due. Crediting Bill Gates with advances in the computer industry, or believing he is some sort of visionary is like crediting Al Gore for being the Father of the Internet.
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