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Blu-ray Drives Due Next Month

ChopSuey   on 16 October 2005 - 08:42 · 46 comments & 9941 views

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Taiwanese firm AOpen has plans to introduce its first line of internal and external PC-based Blu-ray optical drives to the Middle East by the end of November.

Compared to present dual-layer DVD writers, which can write up to 8.4GB of data to compatible media, Blu-ray drives should be able to write up to 50GB of data.

However, like all things new in the world of PCs, the prices of such drives are expected to be high when the models are first introduced onto the market.

“When they are first launched, Blu-ray drives will be sold at a premium,” confirmed Mike Chiang, senior director, AOpen. “This is no different from when dual-layer DVD writers and DVD/CD-RW combo drives first made their way on to the market. Those drives too were sold at premiums when they were first launched. Now however, we sell more dual-layer DVD writers than standard combo drives, which was our previous big seller.”

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(2 replies) #1 Colin-uk on 16 Oct 2005 - 09:10
so the drives are coming out, is the actual media out yet?
#1.1 theyarecomingforyou on 16 Oct 2005 - 09:31
No, but at least you'll have some pretty lights.
#1.2 xpgeek on 16 Oct 2005 - 10:11
lol
(6 replies) #2 raid517 on 16 Oct 2005 - 09:27
Mmm, it sounds like he is trying to justify the high price. Well anyway, scr*w him! I'll wait until I can buy a drive for under £50 and they can write at a decent speed. The money is in bulk anyway - not in selling to a few rich geeks at a premium.

I sure as hell will not pay $$$$100's when the drives will drop in price in a few months and faster/better drives will be out anyway.

GJ

Last edited by 13486 on 16 Oct 2005 - 09:53
#2.1 Rolando on 16 Oct 2005 - 09:31
true... it'll become more commercial in a few months.
I'm still hesitant about buying a Blu-Ray drive though since it's protected by patents and therefore won't become the definitive technology.
#2.2 raid517 on 16 Oct 2005 - 09:52
I predict BlueRay will win - based on the fact that it is just a plumb sexier sounding name than HDD - and that MS backed a looser last time too in the form of DVD/RAM drives (I mean, who still uses those?)

Anyway all such things (including HDD) are protected by patents. So that is neither here nor there.

GJ
#2.3 Jugalator on 16 Oct 2005 - 10:58
I agree, this happened with CD drives, DVD drives, and will happen again, both with Blu-ray and HD-DVD. No drive will magically be cheap from the start, and I never really purchased immature technology. Sometimes, it even has problems that are sorted out just like a year later -- on much cheaper drives. But I'd really like to move on to a high density DVD format for data backups (backing up my 160 GB is much more feasible on 50 GB discs than 5 or 9 GB ones and also a reason I'd like Blu-ray the most for data discs at least).
#2.4 bucko on 16 Oct 2005 - 12:44
hey he circumvented the swear filter, give him a WARNING just like neowin did to me for this sort of thing.
#2.5 Cole on 16 Oct 2005 - 14:22
Bucko, just so you are up to date, you are supposively breaking another rule right now:
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For clarity we show zero tolerance for spam, advertising, useless and off topic comments.


Anyways,

I'm definantly supporting blu-ray, it looks like the future, why support 9gb drives, when we can get ones that are ~50gb?
#2.6 THX1701 on 18 Oct 2005 - 01:34
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that MS backed a looser last time too in the form of DVD/RAM drives


Who's the loser. The company that endorses HD-DVD or the guy who spells loser "looser".

For the record I support Blu-ray.
(3 replies) #3 PeteyPal on 16 Oct 2005 - 10:11
Sounds great, but like everyone else I'd want to wait at least a year or two to get one so the prices are reasonable.

Don't they mean Far East, rather than Middle East, by the way?
#3.1 domgrimm on 16 Oct 2005 - 10:59
Yeah, I wondered about that Middle East stuff...
#3.2 aGoGo on 16 Oct 2005 - 11:33
It's about the Middle East, the article comes from ITP.net, a publishing company based in Dubai (United Arab Emirates)...
#3.3 sLm4ever on 16 Oct 2005 - 16:10
heeeey lucky me ...

it's very nice to have it here ^^ .... also I read there will be Wi-Max in saudi arabia soon ^^ ... which is really good coz' it's wireless and we won't need to use the old cables which doesn't support more than 256Kb DSL connection .... but to be honest I'm not sure they can make Wi-Max connections HERE and so soon ... !?
#4 denzilla on 16 Oct 2005 - 12:53
I just wish they'd start making Drives with the same lifespan/reliability of a HDD. CD, DVD drives are made way to shoddy these days.
(2 replies) #5 ObCeeDee on 16 Oct 2005 - 13:08
I'm really very hesitant to buy those Blue-Ray drives.. Many brands of DVD's turn unreadable after a few years already now, and some brands of CD's do as well..
But ok, it's not THAT bad, and doesn't happen a lot anyway. But when you spend 50 to 100 Euro for such an optical drive, I sure want guarantee that it doesn't get damaged or scratched easily.

With that money, you can easily buy 1 200 GB Hard Drive or 50 DVD's or 200 to 300 CD's..
One simple disc would be very handy though, but the risk of there going something wrong with it is just so high I wouldn't spend money on it.
#5.1 MNS on 16 Oct 2005 - 14:45
exactly, that's what i've been thinking even when the DVD-RW drives came out.

50GB is a LOT of data, so the disc has to be damage-proof in any way possible. it would be convenient if they'd come in a protective enclosure like older DVD-RAMs or floppy discs. i couldn't imagine losing 50GB of information because the disc is scratched or something.

and like you point out, HDs will keep getting cheaper and cheaper. it's only a matter of time when the price/GB ratio is better than any other disc media on the market. and considering how HDs are more reliable than discs anyway, it would be a logical choice.
#5.2 TRC on 16 Oct 2005 - 16:05
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it would be convenient if they'd come in a protective enclosure like older DVD-RAMs


They still make them in cartridges but they are getting harder to find, not to mention finding a drive that will load them.
#6 tiagosilva29 on 16 Oct 2005 - 13:15
I'll just wait for a year or so.
(4 replies) #7 jwjw1 on 16 Oct 2005 - 13:29
'Release to the Middle East'....what are they wanting to test the units on the Arabs since they have that extra Oil Money to spend...lol
#7.1 theyarecomingforyou on 16 Oct 2005 - 13:43
Their broadband connections are a lot faster, hence the need to backup more data.
#7.2 ObCeeDee on 16 Oct 2005 - 13:56
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Their broadband connections are a lot faster, hence the need to backup more data.


Let's rephrase that. Their broadband connections are a lot faster, hence the need to burn all their downloaded software / mp3s / movies / .. faster and more efficiently :p
#7.3 Elite_graphix on 17 Oct 2005 - 05:23
lets re - rephrase that. thier broadband connections are alot faster, hence the need to burn all their downloaded software / mp3s / movies /BONZI BUDDY .. faster and more efficiently

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#7.4 nookadum on 17 Oct 2005 - 07:39
I heard he's gonna go with Kevin who's also doing Systm/FtS now.
(1 reply) #8 Raa on 16 Oct 2005 - 13:53
So is everyone else going to wait a year until HD-DVD & BR merge? lol

I wonder what the prices will be like.....
#8.1 Shadrack on 16 Oct 2005 - 20:24
The two technologies may work out to be good for the consumer. A price war between the two formats would be good to see.
#9 emel on 16 Oct 2005 - 13:58
I went to digitallife expo yesterday and mircrosoft had 30GB ( 2 layer) and 45GB ( 3 layer) HD-DVD's and there was a TOSHIBA player that was supposed to come out next yr. february and the player will cost $700.. so I assume blue-ray players will cost more..
#10 phiberoptik on 16 Oct 2005 - 14:18
nm
(3 replies) #11 Zhivago on 16 Oct 2005 - 14:48
I'm sure stand-alone Blu-Ray/HD-DVD recorders will cost minimum $1000 for at least the first 6 months. As for PC drives, I'm not buying them untill prices drop to about $300.
#11.1 denzilla on 16 Oct 2005 - 17:38
I'm thinging $150 max before I buy one. By then, they'll have Red Ray drives or something stupid like that....
#11.2 noll3095 on 16 Oct 2005 - 17:49
They're red now...
#11.3 denzilla on 17 Oct 2005 - 09:47
That was meant to be a joke Green Ray then!
#12 neufuse on 16 Oct 2005 - 17:44
yes... I want to spend $300 for a drive right now that doesn't do crap because there is nothing out there for it yet.... just wait a year or two people...
(2 replies) #13 RiddickRom on 16 Oct 2005 - 17:47
It's cool that the storage is expanding, even DVD was inadequate when compared to old analog tape which smoked it for length of video it could hold. 50gb feels like something we should have now and be thinking of much greater amounts in the next year or so.

I really prefer HD's for pretty much everything data wise, the ease of access, no hunting around under the desk for that pesky DVD-R you didn't have a pen to label only to find yourself going through a dozen blanks. No one actually keeps these things organised do they? lol

we are getting close to home boxes having a terabyte of storage, makes me wonder just how popular removable optical media will be in the future if it can't keep up.
#13.1 Shadrack on 16 Oct 2005 - 20:27
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even DVD was inadequate when compared to old analog tape which smoked it for length of video it could hold.


Stand alone players, and the Video DVD (MPEG2) standard asside, I can fit WAY more then 6 hours of video at a much higher video and sound quality and those crapy old VCR tapes. If that is what you are talking about.
#13.2 RiddickRom on 17 Oct 2005 - 06:45
Well obviously the quality was higher when we moved to digital but you could easily get 8 hours of video from a long play tape. I'd argue that the quality of the picture was higher than the quality you could get for 8 hours worth of video on one DVD-R.

but either way, it was hardly a major jump in space, no wonder it took so long to take off.
(1 reply) #14 Shadrack on 16 Oct 2005 - 20:22
I remember not too long ago paying $300 for a 4x DVD-/+ R/RW drive at work. Then a few months ago picked up one at home that is WAY faster for about $50. Couldn't have been more then 2 years ago that we purchased that 4x DVD writer though...

We will see how quickly these become affordable. I think most people (at least the more tech savvy ones) will see more value in spending $300 else where, like a faster and larger hard drive. As it is now, I'm just using DVDs as a backup medium. Nothing for permanent storage except my array of SATA drives .
#14.1 ^_^ Silly Willy on 17 Oct 2005 - 20:27
Ya I remember, when they first came around. It was insane how high the price was. I'm glad I waited a while before getting my first dvd burner.
#15 RiddickRom on 16 Oct 2005 - 20:33
It does seem like backup is going to be the main use of them initially. I think you can forget commercial products on Blu-ray for a long time, it took years for DVD to take off commercially.

But can't help thinking backing up on 50gb discs is going to be way too expensive in the short term compared to just buying another HD which is so much simpler. Even file servers are pretty cheap to put together now or just keep adding HD's through USB etc.

I really think lil ole blu ray has its work cut out to get into peoples homes.
#16 Zhivago on 16 Oct 2005 - 20:35
I just wanna move to HD finally. Already have TV-set. Not buying a camcorder on purpose now (although Sony has a really nice HDV for around $1300), waiting for the real HD medium to be finally released. Not much concerned about backing up computer files. All my photos (little or no compression) from 5MP camera will prolly fit on one DVD-R.
(2 replies) #17 DrunkenMaster on 16 Oct 2005 - 21:35
How long will it take to burn 50 GB onto a disc.

I think before I invest anymore money in CD-based media a few problems need to be addressed (too bad not with this generation)...

1) the issue of CD-rot (though I have 5 yrd old computer and 10 yr old audio discs and no problem
2) tougher coatings (Verbatim makes em scratch and dust resistant but there's a premium price... it should be the default esp with this capacity
3) maybe a caddy that you can stick in the drives like of old as someone else mentionned.
#17.1 RiddickRom on 16 Oct 2005 - 21:47




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quote from http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/ According to the Blu-ray Disc specification, 1x speed is defined as 36Mbps. However, as BD-ROM movies will require a 54Mbps data transfer rate the minimum speed we're expecting to see is 2x (72Mbps). Blu-ray also has the potential for much higher speeds, as a result of the larger numerical aperture (NA) adopted by Blu-ray Disc. The large NA value effectively means that Blu-ray will require less recording power and lower disc rotation speed than DVD and HD-DVD to achieve the same data transfer rate. While the media itself limited the recording speed in the past, the only limiting factor for Blu-ray is the capacity of the hardware. If we assume a maximum disc rotation speed of 10,000 RPM, then 12x at the outer diameter should be possible (about 400Mbps). This is why the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) already has plans to raise the speed to 8x (288Mbps) or more in the future.


12 minutes for a 2x drive ish, very ish lol
#17.2 SlimShady on 17 Oct 2005 - 09:07
10 times more data than a DVD, will take half the time of a regular DVD burn session.
Very cool
#18 Sweet River Baynes on 17 Oct 2005 - 06:57
Five BluRay disc can backup my whole 250GB HD.
#19 Garry on 17 Oct 2005 - 16:21
CD-ROM drives came first, then CD-RW
DVD-ROM drives came first, then DVD-RW (and DVD-RAM and DVD+RW, for the pedants out there)
BD-RW is coming before BD-ROM?
#20 flashguy28 on 06 Jul 2006 - 06:31
This site has a tons of information about Blu Ray and Hd Dvds...they're also giving away free movies:
www.hd-dvd-report.com

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