Microsoft said security problems caused Vista delay

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NEIL HOLLOWAY Microsoft’s president of EMEA, said that security was the reason that its Vist Longhorn product was delayed for a year. And he said that one of the reasons it settled with Real rather than bought it was that its market share would then have been too big. The firm got sidetracked because of security with the launch of Vista. Maybe Microsoft should have got security right five or 10 years back, he admitted.

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News source: The Inq

What's Included::

Windows Server 2003 SP1 - Critical Updates
KB890046: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB890830: Malicious Software Removal Tool v1.9
KB893756: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB896358: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB896422: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB896428: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB896688: Cumulative Update for Internet Explorer for Windows Server 2003
KB899587: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB899588: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB899589: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB899591: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB900725: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB901017: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB901214: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB902400: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB904706: Security Update for Windows Server 2003
KB905414: Security Update for Windows Server 2003

Windows Server 2003 SP1 - Recommended updates
KB898458: Security Update for the Step-by-Step Interactive Training Application

Components
Windows Script 5.6 for Windows Server 2003 (v5.6.0.8825)
Windows Installer 3.1 (v2)

Add-ons
DirectX Control Panel
New XP Style Wallpapers (only in Full)
Macromedia Shockwave Player 10.1 (only in Full)
Macromedia Flash Player 8 for Internet Explorer (only in Full)
Macromedia Flash Player 8 for Mozilla, Firefox, Opera and Netscape (only in Full)
New Wallpapers (only in Full)
New AutoPatcher Wallpaper (only in Full)
Sun Java 1.5.0_05 (only in Full)
Google Toolbar 3.0.126.3 (only in Full)
WinUptime Tool (only in Full)

And of course a few registry tweaks which improve functionality and security!

English Full File Size: 63 MB (66130097 bytes)
English Full MD5 Hash: DAAD52D062B5DD8A611779181A4BBCCB
English Lite File Size: 34.3 MB (36033615 bytes)
English Lite MD5 Hash: 244AABF44E0CA030EA6509E595B7381D

(2 replies) #1 cork1958 on 18 Oct 2005 - 09:54

Not particularily a MS fanboy, but if there weren't so many people out there with nothing better to do than try and break things, security wouldn't be so much of an issue. Vista will be just as unsecure as you set it up to be just like any other OS. It will also get patched to death, just like any other OS.

#1.1 Colin-uk on 18 Oct 2005 - 10:20

theres always gunna be someone out there willing to break things

thats how these things get fixed

#1.2 ScottKin on 20 Oct 2005 - 23:18

Hmmm...With that logic, all of our homes would be absolutely burglar-proof, with unpickable doorsets & locks, and there would be no such things a car-jacking and Auto theft.

Your logic run around and go *POOF*

When will the Industry get smart and start treating these so-called "Security Experts" as nothing more than criminals? "Freedom of The Press" does not mean freedom to tell people how to commit crimes, regardless of what our liberal-leaning Supreme Court and Circuit Judiciary says. The freedoms guaranteed in the US Constitution are not absolutes, yes - but the interpretation has become way too broad.

I'll smash my soapbox now...

--ScottKin

(4 replies) #2 Ð€VÌ£ Ïñ Ðì§gûï§€ on 18 Oct 2005 - 10:10

so they made us wait an extra year for nothing

they do know that even if they spend 10 yrs on it, it still wouldnt help..

#2.1 Smit on 18 Oct 2005 - 10:54

It would help. They won't ever be able to make it secure, you can't make anything secure. But they can make it harder and harder to get into.

#2.2 LTD on 18 Oct 2005 - 12:07

Made you wait an extra year for nothing?

The more time they spend on it, the better. Using XP for a little while longer won't kill you.

You'll still end up using Vista anyway . . .

#2.3 Ð€VÌ£ Ïñ Ðì§gûï§€ on 18 Oct 2005 - 17:00

i never said its killing me.. and everyone will obviously end up using vista.. id prefered it if they didnt spent that much time on security and have us download patched every time a hole is discovered..

#2.4 LTD on 18 Oct 2005 - 23:16

What??? You'd rather have them half-ass the security and download patch after patch instead???

Just so you could, what . . . play around with Vista early?

I'm relieved you're not on the Vista dev team.

(1 reply) #3 David R. on 18 Oct 2005 - 12:23

Make sure to take careful note of the source of the article.

#3.1 LTD on 18 Oct 2005 - 14:01

I see now.

Why would someone post such garbge on Neowin? Isn't news moderated?

Sad.

(1 reply) #4 mr_demilord on 18 Oct 2005 - 15:10

The Inquirer

nuff said

#4.1 sphbecker on 18 Oct 2005 - 17:04

I think it is a far thing to say. MS was shooting for a 2004/05 release date, until the blaster issue. The choose to spend time improving XP instead of working on Vista. In the end, the improvements they made to XP will benefit Vista as well and I think Vista is a much better product now then it even could have been in 04, but I still think it is far to say that MS put Vista on the back burner while they repaired XP.

#5 Ashl on 18 Oct 2005 - 15:35

Is that a typo I see... 1st line Vist? should that be vista is this a word I have not seen

#6 panacea on 18 Oct 2005 - 16:02

this article is GARBAGE. has it something to do with the source? who know..

#7 tiwaris on 18 Oct 2005 - 18:14

Anything from Inq is anyway garbage. They don't publish news but rather their opinion about the news.

(4 replies) #8 toadeater on 18 Oct 2005 - 20:18

QUOTE

Maybe Microsoft should have got security right five or 10 years back, he admitted.

Yes, amongst a dozen other things, the *$@&%!*&!! registry.

Windows = Humpty Dumpty

#8.1 LTD on 18 Oct 2005 - 23:06

Humpty Dumpty is *still* alot better than the alternatives.

#8.2 rm20010 on 19 Oct 2005 - 01:40

^ I'd agree with you - if you meant the potato chips brand.

#8.3 bush on 19 Oct 2005 - 06:07

what's this Humty Dumpty

#8.4 ScottKin on 20 Oct 2005 - 23:26

Do I smell a .conf biggot?

Imagine Windows without the "hive" (I refer to the name we used for it when I was on the NT 3.1 DevTeam)

- .INI files all over the place
- Configuration management nightmares for IT Staffers
- Users borking around in SYSTEM.INI and accidentally editing something when something bumped them and they hit the wrong key on the keyboard, causing the system to repeatedly die (they changed the SHELL= property to SHELL32.DL - notice the missing "L"!)
- No simple way to recover by a mis-configured system (i.e. Recovery Console and "Last Known Good"

Once you learn how the Registry works, if you really need to fart around with something in there it's actually very logical.

Go back to your .conf files!

--ScottKin

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