Firefox Reaches 100 Million Downloads

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Mozilla Corp. announced yesterday that its Firefox browser had surpassed 100 million downloads since its release roughly one year ago. The company stated that the figures have exceeded expectations since the release last November.

However, despite the milestone, Firefox has lost momentum in its market share gains versus Microsoft's Internet Explorer after initially gaining a few percentage points. In September Firefox lost another three quarters of a percentage point - its second loss in three months. The open-source browser's market take is down from 8.71 percent in June to 7.55 percent as of the end of September.

Firefox version 1.5 is scheduled for release before the end of the year.

News source: InformationWeek

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(4 replies) #1 hotdog963al on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:16

100 Million Downloads doesn't mean 100 Million Users

#1.1 sphbecker on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:21

I think that is what the article was pointing out. Downloads keep going up and market share keeps going down.

#1.2 hotdog963al on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:23

#1.3 Jugalator on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:41

Yes; keep in mind that a download count can never decrease due to people leaving it, so even with fewer currently active users it'll keep going up as people discover and try the browser. I don't like that Google stopped tracking browser usage on their Google Zeitgeist service. Otherwise they'd been the obvious guide for unbiased browser usage.

#1.4 markjensen on 20 Oct 2005 - 18:34

QUOTE

I don't like that Google stopped tracking browser usage on their Google Zeitgeist service. Otherwise they'd been the obvious guide for unbiased browser usage.

I agree 100%. I was disappointed when they stopped.

I am guessing that it was to stop people from scripting browser requests to give one browser an artificial boost. (i.e. scripting wget and forcing the user agent to be the browser of choice)

(10 replies) #2 rob.derosa on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:16

why do we never have posts saying "IE reaches 100 billion downloads" hmmmmmmmmm?

#2.1 MFSX on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:29

Because IE is bundled with Windows?

"IE forced upon 100 billion Windows-users"

#2.2 IndoShindo on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:30

because IE downloads wouldn't be that high, especially due to the fact the browser comes preloaded onto systems.

#2.3 teejaydm on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:30

hmm... because you really dont need to download IE, its already installed when you have windows.

Well you download the updates but I doubt a lot of people do.

#2.4 rob.derosa on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:33

has any one of you genii heard of sarcasm

#2.5 bucko on 20 Oct 2005 - 16:34

Why do m$ release a million patches for IE (!)

#2.6 sphbecker on 20 Oct 2005 - 18:53

Why do m$ release a million patches for IE

Why do you bother posting when you have such an illogical point? Microsoft releases patches for the same reason patches are released for FireFox and all other browsers. Plus, you are feel like you really need to put m$ in your posts, then at least put it is posts where you talk about Microsoft making money, not when you talking them releasing free patches.

#2.7 M2Ys4U on 20 Oct 2005 - 18:54

#2.4 if you're not referring to a tutelary deity or guardian spirit of a person or place, I think you mean 'geniuses'

#2.8 J_R_G on 20 Oct 2005 - 19:19

Careful or he'll stab at you from his parents basement in Wyoming.

#2.9 bucko on 20 Oct 2005 - 22:57

Its called sarcasm. I use m$ because typing Microsoft over and over again gets annoying.

#2.10 vcv on 21 Oct 2005 - 21:47

Then type "MS", not M$.

(1 reply) #3 N_B on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:28

A point I find interesting in all this is the amount of Firefox vs Opera users.
If they are "stealing" users from each other rather than from IE..

#3.1 Jugalator on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:47

Yeah, that should be interesting to see as well. I hope Opera is doing better now, as I think they both deserve it, and because better competition is good for IE, Firefox, Opera, and all other browsers. One can thank browser competition for IE 7.

I think it'd be hard to see anything from stats yet though, as Opera just recently changed business model with their browser. Maybe in a few months, trends or the lack of them can be seen.

(9 replies) #4 - diego - on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:32

100m dowloads <> 100m users

#4.1 SquareSoftO on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:38

Must be a VB script kiddie. scriptKiddies != realProgrammers

#4.2 Jugalator on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:48

#4.3 roadwarrior on 20 Oct 2005 - 16:24

I learned to program in the early 80's, and many languages used <> for "is not equal to".

#4.4 daelight on 20 Oct 2005 - 16:35

The when? the 80's didn't happen yo ,,

Ah, opps, in your 'language'

80's <> didn't happen

#4.5 Airlink on 20 Oct 2005 - 18:48

Yes, the 80's did happen. I've got the Durran Durran t-shirts to prove it.

#4.6 Silence on 20 Oct 2005 - 20:02

Actually it'd be: 80's <> happen.

#4.7 mr_demilord on 20 Oct 2005 - 20:07

It's Duran Duran

#4.8 keratosis on 20 Oct 2005 - 20:12

And the mullet photos too?

#4.9 TRC on 20 Oct 2005 - 21:14

Every decade has some stupid fad, what is your point again?

/do not insult the 80's

(3 replies) #5 reowdes on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:35

100 millions

, i never gone to be one of that persons

..... if i need to chooce another bowser at this point i prefeer mozilla or avant ....... but i feel ok with IE6 "never had 1 problem or crash" ... for the moment....

#5.1 roadwarrior on 20 Oct 2005 - 18:10

Where the hell do you think Firfox comes from? It shares the code base with Mozilla

#5.2 sphbecker on 20 Oct 2005 - 18:55

Well, I have downloaded FireFox 3 times, but havn't used it for more then about an hour total.

#5.3 mr_demilord on 20 Oct 2005 - 20:09

I have downloaded MS software and used it for an hour

(2 replies) #6 Smigit on 20 Oct 2005 - 15:52

why is there always 5 or so people who feel it is necessary to say x downloads doesnt mean x users. I think we all know that now, especially when the articles make no such claim. Doesnt stop the download count being a milestone so I see no point in people saying it EVERY time. Its almost as bad as the "old news" catch phrase you always hear

Dont mind me, I'm tirred

#6.1 machorro on 20 Oct 2005 - 16:09

i think you are right... is like those persons that ay also "w00t first post"

they are as bad as any of the two examples

#6.2 em_te on 20 Oct 2005 - 20:11

I think it's because everyone finds it odd that "download counts" are being celebrated. And odd things are cool to point out. It's like when you see "fat chicks" on the street. Everyone sees them and everyone knows that they're fat, but it's a natural reaction to say, "hey, there's a fat chick over there," in the presense of a fat chick. Or it's like when people say, "owned."

#7 paulhaskew on 20 Oct 2005 - 16:47

I proudly state that I use Firefox and IE... just depends on what site I am visiting... Having two browsers doesn't bother me at all...

(1 reply) #8 Galley on 20 Oct 2005 - 17:13

Opera 9 should be released about the same time that Firefox 1.5 comes out. It should be interesting. My money is on Opera winning that particular round of the "browser wars".

#8.1 Yogurth on 20 Oct 2005 - 18:25

actually Opera 9 preview 1 is out, from:

http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o90p1_8031.exe

very fast.

#9 Mateus-ES on 20 Oct 2005 - 18:06

IE is losing marketshare... Linux and Firefox gain pieces day by day

(1 reply) #10 DJROrion on 20 Oct 2005 - 18:17

The open-source browser's market take is down from 8.71 percent in June to 7.55 percent as of the end of September

Enough Said.

#10.1 mr_demilord on 21 Oct 2005 - 10:00

You have lies
Damn lies
and statistics.

Don't trust them.

#11 insanekiwi on 20 Oct 2005 - 18:28

just use whatever suits your needs

(1 reply) #12 Airlink on 20 Oct 2005 - 19:01

How is this measured?
You know, smart people (like me) block browser ident querys.
Query for what OS or Browser my computer is using? Sorry, that request is going to be ignored. No response for you.
So, even though I'm using Firefox 1.0.7, these "tracker" sites report that I use Mozilla 4.0. (becasue it is stupid and can't tell the difference between no response and an afirmitive Mozzilla 4 response).
Ooohhh..... Look at the reliable statistics everyone. They're reliable. And statistical. Oohhhh... Ahhhh....

#12.1 J_R_G on 20 Oct 2005 - 19:20

Statistically, just as many windows and IE users will block OS and browser strings as users of other software, so the statistics are still valid, sorry but linux and firefox are not taking the world by storm.

#13 sLm4ever on 20 Oct 2005 - 19:38

for me as one user = ... I downloaded it maybe 4 or 5 times .... but I copyed it to 10 or 15 of my friends XD .... is that 200m user XD ????

#14 Webgraph on 20 Oct 2005 - 20:17

Cheers! However, it is disappointing to find out that Firefox's market share is still declining, but there will be a surge again when 1.5 is released, I can guarantee that! Also, I'm still trying to convince users to dump IE for Firefox (or Safari for OS X) and chances are, I'll still have Firefox installed when I transfer to the iBook in case Safari doesn't completely deliver.

#15 mayamaniac on 20 Oct 2005 - 20:35

This is stupid, the numbers don't mean a damn thing. Besides, they probably count updates as another download too. So let say there are 10 million users, they want to get to 20 million? Easy, release another update and all those users will download the updates, doubling the amount of downloads. And i just noticed the note at the bottom

Firefox version 1.5 is scheduled for release before the end of the year.

There you go, it'll hit 200 millions in no time.

#16 MGS3-SS on 20 Oct 2005 - 20:54

10 million users or 100 million users, Firefox is still a better quality browser than IE and Opera.

#17 TRC on 20 Oct 2005 - 21:16

I use Firefox myself, and I really don't care if anyone else does or not. 100 million downloads, so what. I would still use it if it had only 10 downloads. These figures are pointless anyway.

#18 Nautica on 20 Oct 2005 - 22:13

I downloaded like 10 times... because they kept putting out those damn updates without being able to update within the broweser.. i bet only 15 million users acutally downlaoded it

(1 reply) #19 whistlerxp on 20 Oct 2005 - 22:15

The loss is most likely Beta testers of IE 7. If thats the Beta testers - then whats going to happen when the actual broweser comes out?

(As a firefox fan I hope it's crap, but as a user of computers where IE is a big thing I hope its the best it can possibly be)

#19.1 bucko on 20 Oct 2005 - 23:02

Well it looks like IE7 is going to have tabs

(1 reply) #20 SniperX on 20 Oct 2005 - 22:48

Is this going to be news each time they reach a nice round number? I suppose something has to keep it in the news.

May as well start adding "Firefox Doesn't Reach 200 Million Downloads Today" It's just as crucial in terms of technology news.

#20.1 bucko on 20 Oct 2005 - 23:08

Are people like you going to say "is this going to be news" all the time? I hope not, people who also say "I posted this yesterday" or "This is old news" should really just shut up and regard it as news, whether you like it or not its news, just face it. Like I watch BBC news yer I don’t complain that the weather is shown about 4 times a day do I.

just can people stop complaining? Its stupid saying is this going to be news, news is news, you cant justify news its news just get over with it. It annoys me so much that people keep saying so and so is not news when it is! Also go and have a look at the NeoWin slogan.

Don’t take this personally, its to everyone who complains about news. This is a news site!

#21 Raa on 21 Oct 2005 - 01:15

Good to see people are wizening up to Maxthon :yes:

#22 Cubiz on 21 Oct 2005 - 06:35

Congrats to Mozilla.

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