Posted by Tom Warren on 02 November 2005 - 10:10 · 20 comments & 7243 views
After the announcements yesterday about Microsoft's new "live" services the company held a press conference detailing all the products in the Microsoft Live platform.

The company demoed an early version of Office Live, a managed web application for organising calendar, mail and contacts. Office Live will combine Web Hosting, Collaboration of Projects, Business Applications and Communications. Many expect a fully hosted version of Microsoft Office but this is not the company's intension for Office Live.

Microsoft demoed a payroll application using Office Live that could be used by small businesses to manage their payroll systems over a rich web interface.

Thanks to eagle eyed Niall for taking some photos at the event.

Microsoft is expected to release Office Live to beta in the firsts quarter of 2006.

Screenshot: Office Live
Screenshot: Office Live Mail
Screenshot: Office Live Mail Admin
Screenshot: Office Live Dashboard
Screenshot: Office Live Payroll
View: Office Live


What's new:

    General
  • new: Remove old BIOS information compatibility option
  • new: Keyboard layout and Language group unattended options
  • update: .NET Framework 2.0 compatibility
  • update: Redesigned few pages, more readable
  • update: Smaller final size by compressing more files
  • update: KB891957-x64, KB906569, KB899589-v2, KB900725 integration
  • update: RVM Pack 2.0+ support
  • fix: Missing DATA folder error message
  • fix: Driver integration from read-only media


    Components
  • new: Keyboard layouts
  • new: Acm Core Codecs
  • new: Network Location Awareness (NLA)
  • update: NetDDE (back)
  • update: Printer Support (removes spooler service)
  • update: BlueTooth not dependable on Modem Support
  • update: WMP connectivity not dependant on ICW
  • fix: SCSI drivers component detection



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(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by ObCeeDee on 02 Nov 2005 - 10:23
That actually looks really nice and promising. Can't wait to check it out.
Quote this comment #1.1 Posted by toadeater on 03 Nov 2005 - 20:25
Explain why it looks really nice and promising.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by Airlink on 02 Nov 2005 - 10:25
I can't believe someone smuggled a digicam in and took actual shots of a screen.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by mr_demilord on 02 Nov 2005 - 11:23
Why can't they take decent screenshots, or don't they know what a "Print Screen" key is?
Quote this comment #3.1 Posted by Airlink on 02 Nov 2005 - 11:26
Um, becasue it was taken at a Microsoft event. You think Microsoft will just hand over access to the system to anyone who asks?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by Pink Floyd on 02 Nov 2005 - 13:18
and how much will be this service?
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by Flatty on 02 Nov 2005 - 14:03
Microsoft should really have a look at Neowin and/or Deviant websites to learn some basic interface graphics/layout tricks. Damn, they still persist on the same basic "visual effects"
Quote this comment #5.1 Posted by matt74441 on 02 Nov 2005 - 18:42
Microsoft puzzles me. They want to go completely nuts on the Windows interface in Vista, they've completely thrown UI rules out the window for the next Office, and then their internet services are simple as hell. Oh well.
Quote this comment #5.2 Posted by Darkinspiration on 03 Nov 2005 - 01:54
You know they are still people out there that must rely on 56k modem.

Simple is often best on the web.

Now if your using a corporate intranet....

(5 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by _dandy_ on 02 Nov 2005 - 14:17
I've said this maybe 8 years ago and I'll say it again now--when it comes to GUIs, the web has set us back 10 years. The so-called browser war is constantly forcing us to stick to the lowest common denominator.

Quote this comment #6.1 Posted by Nightwind_Hawk on 02 Nov 2005 - 14:54
Yeah, I agree with you, and my guess is that it would only work with IE just like mail.
Quote this comment #6.2 Posted by Shadrack on 02 Nov 2005 - 19:04
the web has not set GUIs back 10 years, silly. The web is a thin client, and a light GUI is part of the definition of a thin-client. Besides, it isn't like: because of the web, stand-alone OS based applications stopped being produced.

New web technologies are being developed every day that enrich the user experience on the web. The added benefits that exist in web based technologies simply can't exist in a stand-alone application. It really is like comparing apples to oranges.

If you don't stick to the "lowest common denomentator" then you really lose out on the bennefits of having a web application, and should just build a stand-alone app. Simple as that.

I really find your comment absurd.
Quote this comment #6.3 Posted by aristotle-dude on 03 Nov 2005 - 01:11
Your comment really is absurd. I don't think you understand what a UI is for. It is a user interface and it should expose functionality as simply as possible providing accessiblity for as many people as possible.

The lowest common denominator should be your starting goal. Start with that goal in mind when you design your UI and you will end up with something that is user friendly.

Are you a fan of overly complex UIs which have been designed by engineers? Do you find MS Office to be highly usable? If it was so damn usuable, why are there so many books out there teaching people how to use each new version?

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Quote this comment #6.4 Posted by parithon on 04 Nov 2005 - 00:27
I find it very amusing that everybody thinks a developer should start his "development" by the UI level.
Quote this comment #6.5 Posted by _dandy_ on 11 Nov 2005 - 15:55
I really should've come back to this thread earlier than this, but here goes anyway...

> If you don't stick to the "lowest common denomentator" then you really lose out on the
> bennefits of having a web application, and should just build a stand-alone app. Simple as
> that.

That was my point exactly. Standalone apps are being dropped in favor of web-based development, for no benefit at all--I'd rather have a application that takes advantage of the controls the OS can offer. Have you seen the last couple of versions of Microsoft Money, or Encarta? Windows' got some great native controls, yet applications that could benefit from them can't use them, because these controls simply don't exist in a web environment.

Where's the slider control, the listview, the window splitter, the tabbed dialogs, the draggable toolbars, the detachable and dockable windows, etc? They're not there in web apps, and where they are actually faked, they're poorly implemented. These controls make apps much more usable to me, but no browser-hosted application can ever offer that.

I hope I'm a little clearer with this post than in my one-liner...
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by no-sweat on 02 Nov 2005 - 15:59
it looks like these screenshots were taking with a digital camera ...
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by Tommy2k4 on 02 Nov 2005 - 15:59
<snipped>

No one cares about spelling errors.

--matt74441


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Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by CyBeRiA on 02 Nov 2005 - 16:58
wrong thread...i'm an idiot.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by Alex Danvy on 02 Nov 2005 - 18:19
AFAIK, the Office Live Payroll screen shoot is taken from the "standard" Windows Forms application called Microsoft Office Small Business Accounting 2006 (sic!)
Quote this comment #10.1 Posted by mr_demilord on 03 Nov 2005 - 08:29
Lol.
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