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this is really getting rediculous

There are thousands of those websites around. The MPA will shut them all down? I can't see it happening

lol cracking down sure helped the mpaa and riaa . go ahead make it worst for yourself Music Publishers' Association (MPA).

bring down one and you create more.

This has to be the next dumbest thing they are doing...absolutly rediculous.

how on earth sharing lyrics are illegal ? this is the most stupid thing I ever heard

Absolutely ludicrous. These sites don't claim that the poetry is of their own, they are properly sourced. The Lyrics are designed to be sung in a Song by the artist anyway, these Lyrics arn't even available to be purchased, fair use applies here. Soon it will be illegal to even sing such a song to yourself.

its proper stupid!

how many avid younger guitarists use these tabs to help develop the skill in the instrument! a bloody lot, ive spoken to all my guitar playing friends (myself included)n they all thnk that they are going way to far. soons its gona be illegal to say the bands name outloud!

stupid censors.....

I don't understand how can guitar tabs and song scores be copyrighted. This is getting really cruel, and especially the part where the MPA president said he wanted site owners to be jailed. Are people going to be labeled criminals for an "unauthorized" song lyric ?

Stupid and stupid
Next thing will be that you cant sing a song unless you bought a cd or through music store.

This is getting silly, honestly now...

Singing in the shower is illegal and the RIAA will bust your ass. :p

nm

i think some companies are way too greedy

Pretty soon memorizing a song and playing it back in your head will be an intellectual property violation. Pathetic....


On a side not, I really enjoy reading posts now since the profanity filter is off. Definitely makes for a more interesting read

Do they mean the sites like Lyrics.com or sites that actually have the notes and stuff?

Either way its ****ing stupid.

It would make it so much easier for them if they just stopped producing music altogether, that way they never have to suffer the fate of us actually hearing their published songs.

What the F**K. Now they are going way to far. People really need to get together now and boycott cd's

what in the crap...........

in the future you won't be able to mention a song name on the interweb!

I hope they get pirated to hell

WTF? this takes the piss, next they'll be copyrighting certain words in a certain order!!! (oh damn i've probably given them another way of making money). Copyrighting lyrics is fine but stopping people distributing them thats crazy what do they think is going to happen? someones going to take the lyrics and sing them and then play the music themselves? idiots!!!! I think these MD's of these companies should stop shoving that illegal white powder up there noses.

I'm not going against the grain here, I do disagree with this, but I think some people have gotten a little too excited here. Song lyrics and and musical representation are copyrightable and are the property of the record company / artist, in the asme way that the text in a book and a film's script is under copyright. To deny this is burrying your head in the sand and is naive. Companies have the right to protect their property just like you and I do, sharing song lyrics without permission is in violation of the copyright.

It would seem that the sheet music companies are losing out on this as they have paid to publish the music legally and people are just using the web sites to get it for free. Just because this is the web it doesn't mean it's not subject to the law. I know that I have gotten tabs from the web and not purchased the books I would say that most of them are probably 'fair use' as they are people's interpretations of the music. Frankly I don't see them being able to do much in the UK about this.

Please dont hurt allofmp3!

I love eet!

Most excellent. I am glad that proactive steps are FINALLY being taken to protect intellectual property.

Am i not right in thinking that most of the guitar tab sites don't actually give you the official tab?
The ones i use, people submit their take on it. And they credit the band as the people who wrote/performed the song originally.
If they actually go ahead and start prosecuting people then they are screwing themselves in the long run. How many bands would be around today if they couldn't get tabs/lyrics off the net when first starting. I know my band wouldn't.

Ideas like this are why I no longer purhcase CD's except on the rarest ocassion. If the RIAA had just taken to the online music sales model sooner instead of all this litigation and copy protection they would have been able to make money. ( I realize the RIAA is not doing this particualr thing) Not to mention Tabs and sheet music are not really the same. Its like saying that humming a tune is the same as singing it. Sure it sounds the same but its not really all there.
Mr Keiser said he did not just want to shut websites and impose fines, saying if authorities can "throw in some jail time I think we'll be a little more effective".
Lets lop off their heads while were at it. Give me a break. I like music but I have enough in my collection to keep me sustained without buying new stuff. The music industry has become very user-unfriendly

I patented this idea. I'm going to sue the MPA.

Learning to play the song on guitar doesn't rip off the artist from any money. I can see why it's illegal, but still, how is it hurting them? What is the artists point of view on this?

Wow MPA, way to go an alienate the consumer even more!

Lets start with guitar tabs - things that let guitarists learn songs, while also letting gutarists learn valuable skills. Is this the MPA's attempt to rid the world of guitarists, or have the MPA just gone made with power?

Song lyrics - you gotta be kidding me right? Oh no! People can sing along to songs now and know the correct words! I'm sorry, but this doesn't affect your income, but rather suppliments it.

I'm sorry, but the MPA has just lost it. It's grown so big it's about to implode on itself - and that's just going to be one big mess! The only people this is going to hurt is the artists and record companies themselves. When will they wake up and realise they are stabing themselves with the dagger.

MPA is going too far. Our freedoms are being violated more and more.

Big Brother is watching you...

Why don't they just get it over with and ban eyes and ears. That is what it is coming to..

Come on now... do they not realize that these sites help to make music more popular. People pick up guitar tabs, and play the song in their free time, allowing others to hear the song, and then they want to go and get it. Same with lyrics... wtf!

Damn, so lame

I can understand guitar tabs, cause some bands sell their guitar, drums, & bass tabs in books, but lyrics that is just going too far

i understand how the lyrics could be copywritten, im sure that artists do it so that nobody steals their work, but come on, lyrics? nobody is clamming them as their own, lyrics always have the artist name and artist song on them, its just something to look up when u dont understand a word, or want to follow along better! man, im so angry at this, i wanna just kick someone from the MPA, its so dumb that its not even funny..... just my thought...

Guess ill smack my head against a wall a few times to knock out all the lyrics over the years so i can't sing them and get sued by the mpa.

OMG these people are stupid. Saying it's illegal to look up guitar tabs and lyrics??????? Yeah people copyright the lyrics they write, but how is looking up some lyrics illegal???? Most bands have the lyrics to their songs right there on their site.

Hell, even The Cure had a section with lyrics AND guitar tabs for the longest time on their site.

They're having trouble getting people for sharing mp3's so now they're taking a different approach it seems like. This is ridiculous

I don't really understand how this is illegal. I mean really, it's not as though another band will steal all of their music and pretend to be them, that doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.

I think I'm going to make a website that has lyrics and guitar tabs and see what they do. I'll fight them to the bitter end, because you know what? There is no law against that. NONE.

Well so much for cover bands playing other artists songs. Now due to the RIAA you can't even look at the words of a song, or at the musical score of a particularly neat guitar rift without first paying them in blood.

This is what happens when you allow corporations to run your country.

GJ

Of course lyrics and song scores are protected by copyright law, think of it as source code, its same illegal to distribute copies of Windows XP as it will distributing the source code. The companies own the copyright for the performances and the authors own it for the scores and lyrics.
It only shows how stupid is copyright law.
It makes you wonder, if you buy a CD and it doesnt come with the lyrics doesnt exist in the inlay card, the copyright law is protecting an inexistent product (the lyrics that some human person wrote after listening to the song).

In the latest news, it's now illegal to breathe without paying for it.

This is a joke right..? right??

Well, heres to the death of cover artists, and garage bands, and oh... well the music industry.

Uggh, these people just need to crawl into a hole and die already. Before we know it people will be arrested for singing along to the songs they hear on the radio. There is a limit to how far copyrights should be taken, and they crossed this line a long time ago.

I just fail to see the reasoning of WHY. Are people not buying enough song lyrics, are they losing money on song lyrics.

This is stupid, and will just force the creation of huge lyrics sites in Sweden or the like.

JIHAD ON THE RIAA!!! INFIDELs!!! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?!?!?

Time to look up your local congress people and start emailing the hell outta them. Send more letters then they could possibly open, and prevent this legislation from being passed....bitching about it on boards will not get you what you want to see.

Songs I can see, lyrics and teaching others to play guitar and other instruments? Please...even artists such as Joe Satriani support these sites.

This is total CROCK! I want to know when some people in actual power are going to put a stop to all this crap. What we need is a Supreme Court Judge to say this is all crap and the record industry is using the court system as a cash grab.

*By the way, don't quote my post, it's copyright, and if you do, I'll sue you.. hopefully you will go to jail so that I can make an example out of you and nobody else will quote my post!

Hey everyone put up lyrics on there sites, you will all get jailed, *crazy*

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heh..i guess the swear filter isn't working quite right

The MPAA is doing some really stupid sh*t right now.

What did you expect from a guy named Lauren?

wow it's so cool to censor words like fuck and shit...

i think im going to stop coming here.. ive had it with the childish censorship.

I want to know why MPA hasnt sued manufacturers of Tape Recorders, or even any Recording devices.

There big bad bullys :'(

Find me at the next concert where im singing along to incorrect lyrics, and sue me coz i know some of em.

Lyrics is the best way to find out what a song is, hmm whats the song that goes "fuck the mpa", alrite lyric search that, arr its called "The Truth" by "The People".

(Not real song name, if it is, well what a fluke)

I just don't get it. I mean, you can hear the lyrics when you listen to the song. At least, most of the time. It's different to someone putting a book online, the lyrics don't make the music

This bit from the article made me laugh

"The Xerox machine was the big usurper of our potential income," he said. "But now the internet is taking more of a bite out of sheet music and printed music sales so we're taking a more proactive stance."

Where is the suit against Xerox for harming their "potential" income

and this other pearl

"Unauthorised use of lyrics and tablature deprives the songwriter of the ability to make a living, and is no different than stealing," he said.

"Music publishers and songwriters will consider all tools under the law to stop this illegal behaviour."

What???? so if you find the lyrics to a song or the tabs (which someone has pointed out are not necessarily correct just similar) you are depriving the artist or songwriter of income. I don't think, so would this then mean that if you listened to a song long enough to learn the lyrics or wrote down lyrics you would be threatened because you have deprived the songwriter of income.

I was doing my shopping the other day in the local supermarket and there was a charge on the bill for listening to the music that was playing in the store!

Well not really...yet.

What about CD's that include lyrics? Yaaaaaaaaaaa... exactly..