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Windows Live Messenger Beta 1

lardiop   on 14 December 2005 - 07:27 · 76 comments & 29881 views

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Microsoft has finally released the first beta of Windows Live Messenger to the first few select testers. Activation e-mails were sent out to the first batch of testers including the 'MSN Beta Butterflies' late Tuesday, and the initially released build carries the suffix '.0365'. This early beta release of Windows Live Messenger brings with it a completely revamped interface and many functionality changes including:

  • Editable contact information and 'Buddy Renaming'
  • Offline Messages
  • Computer-phone audio sessions
  • Folder sharing

The 140 or so million people not selected to participate in this beta are out of luck this time around. The new version of the MSN protocol being implemented in WLM checks for an authorized 'beta tester' passport account upon login. Even pre-selected beta testers are out of luck until they receive their activation e-mail from the testing team. On a related note, Microsoft has just released a QFE patch to address issues with the login procedure with MSN Messenger 7.5. This small patch updates the desktop client to version 7.5.0320 and requires an initial version of .0311 to update successfully.

Canadian testers are advised of the following by Microsoft concerning their WLM authorization e-mails:

"We have a bug in ideas.live.com that will make it so all you will see is French text when you go to the site. We are fixing the bug right now and hope to have ready sometime tomorrow. (Wednesday) In the meantime we are going to hold off sending you the download/authorization link. I know this will disappoint all of you who are following the newsgroups and wouldn't mind wading your way through the French text. But there are hundreds of you who are not on the newsgroups yet who will be surprised by this poor experience. Thanks for your patience!"

Download: MSN Messenger 7.5.0320 QFE Patch
View: Neowin Forum Discussion | Windows Live Messenger Blog





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(2 replies) #1 rbet on 14 Dec 2005 - 07:32
I got in, but I'm not impressed. The thing simply looks too damn large. And the adbar seem to have gone bigger. :/
#1.1 XP-RTM on 14 Dec 2005 - 14:04
yup im in as well and I like it but not that much (hopefully there's a-patch for the ad solution)
#1.2 rbet on 14 Dec 2005 - 15:00
there is, but there's no patch for the bloatage, I'm afraid.

OT: These new smileys freak me out!
(2 replies) #2 Geo on 14 Dec 2005 - 07:35
IMO the way this beta has progressed has been quite a disaster
#2.1 Black on 14 Dec 2005 - 10:39
How so? It only just started!
#2.2 Geo on 14 Dec 2005 - 11:21
For more public, yes.
#3 Jugalator on 14 Dec 2005 - 07:37
Finally offline messages in Messenger... And the other features listed above can be useful too.
But of course, this is only real news in the Messenger world, as other protocols and IM's have had some of this already.
#4 AthleticTrainer1981 on 14 Dec 2005 - 07:42
I think it has actually gotten better. To me the interface is cleaner
(5 replies) #5 Jugalator on 14 Dec 2005 - 07:44
Hmm, how's the memory usage on this one?
#5.1 bipp5 on 14 Dec 2005 - 08:00
I'm getting up to 50MB at some times Averages around 36 - 40MB
#5.2 AthleticTrainer1981 on 14 Dec 2005 - 08:01
That's my big gripe right now...currently 35 mb ram/45 mb vram

way too much for a program that is currently testing at version 8
#5.3 Captain Caveman on 14 Dec 2005 - 09:45
Its a beta though.. gotta be expected.<br><br>Debug code, not optimized.. <br>

#5.4 Black on 14 Dec 2005 - 10:54
I'm always a bit so so about the RAM usage debate. I mean I've got 512mb RAM on one machine and a GB on the other and I use Messenger a fair bit so if even if Messenger wants to use 50mb of it I'm not too bothered to be honest. Yeah a few years ago that would be a huge amount but if I've got the RAM to spare so why not? Especially if I can have bigger contact lists and stuff like my Xbox Live Friends list, voice clips, webcam, message history, display pics and all the other stuff that makes me use this version of Messenger over Windows Messenger 4.7.

My biggest gripe with Messenger was sign in issues a few months back but that seems sorted out now, at least for me it is. Besides I always had the same problem with Yahoo IM.
#5.5 MrCobra on 14 Dec 2005 - 12:06
@Captain Caveman:

Being BETA, not optimized and having debug code doesn't justify the memory usage. Before I installed the BETA version, 7.5 was taking up just as much and at various times of usage messenger would lag for a bit and it's memory usage would jump to 80+MB.

I seriously think they should start from scratch and optimize as they go and not keep rereleasing the same crap time and time again with some insignificant updates added to it.
(2 replies) #6 eilegz on 14 Dec 2005 - 07:48
looks good little bloated but no problem so far, offline its only via msn 8 users so people with older msn wont work too bad =/ at least its playing catchup with yahoo messenger and ICQ in some of this new features.
#6.1 Black on 14 Dec 2005 - 10:38
Offline messages work fine with 7.5 - I've already had a few
#6.2 rIaHc3 on 14 Dec 2005 - 14:01
Offline messages work from 8.0 to 7.0 (I believe) but not from 7.0 to 8.0 (for now). Its backward compatible.
#7 Storm on 14 Dec 2005 - 08:05
Im in :p
(2 replies) #8 Computer Guru on 14 Dec 2005 - 08:12
<P>Can someone post a link to the Beta?</P>
<P>I have received my activation email and a beta 3 days ago.. Not sure if its the same build, highly doubt it.</P>
#8.1 LanMan874 on 14 Dec 2005 - 13:42
Go to the WLM Beta Newsgroups and fid information on downloading it there. you should also have gotten an email this morning with more information
#8.2 leojei on 15 Dec 2005 - 07:53
the download link is in the announcement ng. Well even if you get the bits you wont be able to play with it. I know - it sucks~
(4 replies) #9 johnweis on 14 Dec 2005 - 08:33
Hi Everyone,

About v7.5 QFE3, i.e. 7.5.320, we were set to release this later this week but found a bug which we didn't want to ship. The bug is minor so 7.5.320 is still a good build, however the official build will probably be v7.5.322. I'm working on getting a g-link to that build that we can post in newsgroups and forums so that people with sign in issues can see if it fixes their problems.

The goal of v7.5 QFE3 is to fix (or get better erros on) sign in issues. No new features. If people want more information on what is in v7.5.322 versus v7.5.311 (i.e. the version on http://messenger.msn.com, then post a comment reply to this thread.
#9.1 Mad_Griffith on 14 Dec 2005 - 09:03
Our ears are wide open
#9.2 Computer Guru on 14 Dec 2005 - 12:43
Please tell us more!
#9.3 johnweis on 14 Dec 2005 - 19:30
Rough Outline of Fixes in v7.5 QFE3

o a lot of people were experiencing sign in issues with v7.5.311 (QFE2), we took some changes to fix that or to give better error messages to figure out what was going wrong. And there was another fix to get our error reporting correct. As a byproduct, there have been reports that sign in is faster. If you or someone you know was having sign in issues please give the 7.5.320 build or the 7.5.322 build a try when it is available? They are identical when it comes to sign in.

o in Korea, if you were using an IME (Input Method Editor), you would type shortcut for your favorite emoticon and get an extra character. Now emoticons are key to any IM program and it didn't make sense to not fix this (and we found a simple code fi. If you've got contacts in Korea, or know Korean yourself, give it a try!

o if you had a Dynamic Background from Blue Mountain, bought it and installed it, then the Text Ads which you should have been getting while you had a Dynamic Background on weren't showing up.

o there is a DLL which is central to our Audio / Video features, we had to take a new version of that to fix a bug where Messenger would crash if you unplug a USB device after running the Audio Video Tuning Wizard on that device.
#9.4 leojei on 15 Dec 2005 - 07:55
*comment withdrew by poster, sorry for any inconvenient*

Last edited by leojei on 15 Dec 2005 - 21:38
#10 rIaHc3 on 14 Dec 2005 - 09:37
Im in as well but I didnt get the link yesterday; Im in school opened up my mail account and finally got in. Ill download it when I get home
(1 reply) #11 DJLunacy on 14 Dec 2005 - 09:46
I got in last night and am running it now hopefully the ads will be smaller
#11.1 jwjw1 on 14 Dec 2005 - 09:49
APatch makes the ADs real small.....LOL
(2 replies) #12 tunafish on 14 Dec 2005 - 11:04
well i cant download it, even though i got email from ms saying its avalable to dl but the link dont work, lol
#12.1 Wolvereen on 14 Dec 2005 - 13:14
Just an FYI, the download link wasn't working for me in FIrefox. Works fine in IE.
#12.2 ArBoK on 14 Dec 2005 - 13:15
yup, you have to use IE
(2 replies) #13 dacbo on 14 Dec 2005 - 11:04
same here, got email, but link doesn't
#13.1 dacbo on 14 Dec 2005 - 13:12
looks like the link doesnt work in thunderbird so i saved the email and opened in outlook express
#13.2 LanMan874 on 14 Dec 2005 - 13:45
Link didnt work in Outlook 2003 for me. Visit the Newsgroups for information on getting it to work
#14 Wolvereen on 14 Dec 2005 - 13:13
ANybody else having skinning/theme issues with it? I have a nasty box around the entire app. See screenshot below...

[img]http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/3831/unt itled17ft.jpg[/img]

Using a MacOSX type theme and y'z shadow.

Last edited by Wolvereen on 14 Dec 2005 - 21:17
#15 Mohsin Naqi on 14 Dec 2005 - 13:43
all those 'new' features have already gotten old in yahoo and other IM's , why is MS always lagging behind ..
#16 Hottoast on 14 Dec 2005 - 13:56
I got my DL link! YAY!
(2 replies) #17 rIaHc3 on 14 Dec 2005 - 14:04
Well it works; and I already have 3 people who Im going to give invites to.
#17.1 Express on 14 Dec 2005 - 14:07
How do you send invites?
I can't find the option anywhere.
#17.2 rIaHc3 on 14 Dec 2005 - 15:31
You cant.....yet.
#18 x-scratch on 14 Dec 2005 - 14:21
disable any adblockers & the link will show up
#19 Ferret on 14 Dec 2005 - 14:23
So when will the public beta be availible ?&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;

#20 frogworm on 14 Dec 2005 - 14:49
i'm just not sure if i like it or not but offline messages is a welcome addition and i can't wait till yahoo network is added since i have a friend of two on yahoo messenger.
#21 eSouL on 14 Dec 2005 - 14:55
edit: nevermind
(2 replies) #22 Matt500 on 14 Dec 2005 - 15:05
I love MS, they always say "select testers" but most of them are idiots and the product is awful for ages.
#22.1 rIaHc3 on 14 Dec 2005 - 15:32
Excuse me? We, the "selected testers", are not idiots. Most of us that applied to be in the beta got accepted because we have trust with Microsoft because we have tested past Microsoft products.
#22.2 leojei on 15 Dec 2005 - 07:58
haha Matt500 makes himself sound like Paul Th***tt, which get his name bangs in the Vista newsgroup.
We all know how the "he just knows" guy really understand the product, here we have a good comparison~
#23 djesteban on 14 Dec 2005 - 15:31
omg this thing looks bloated

and this new live system sucks... my friend who arte not invited can't use it yet.

as soon as Google Talk gets a file transfer option i'm switching for good.
#24 ahhell on 14 Dec 2005 - 15:34
I can just imagine how bloated this thing will be.

I got so sick of it I went back to Windows Messenger 5.
(1 reply) #25 rIaHc3 on 14 Dec 2005 - 15:34
BTW....Microsoft problably added offline messages because of their deal with Yahoo! seeing as Yahoo! has this feature and they had to make it as compatible as possible.
#25.1 mram on 14 Dec 2005 - 15:55
Holy moly -- Offline messages! Hell hath frozen over!
(1 reply) #26 Nextstep OS X on 14 Dec 2005 - 16:06
removed

shockz.

Last edited by #26.1 shockz on 14 Dec 2005 - 21:17
Test.
#27 ShiFtedReaLity on 14 Dec 2005 - 16:10
umm i only get 30mb mem usuage untill i log in then after it loads up all the way it dropes to around 19mb
but my ads dont load either.... so thats more than liely why its lower memory usuage.. was higher when ad worked :p
#28 The Patri0t on 14 Dec 2005 - 17:08
20 MB usage of RAM. It is nothing! Not a hogger like Yahoo! Messenger. :p

I love it! I love it! I love it! It's so cooooooooool with all those lift ups .
#29 TNL on 14 Dec 2005 - 18:40
Absolutly ugly, prefered v7.5. Its using just over 50mb for me here, which is rather bad, but i guess its a beta, gotta a long way to go before I think it is any good!
#30 The Darknight on 14 Dec 2005 - 19:06
So this beta still not compatible with Yahoo?

Any news when that it's going to happen?
#31 iconboy on 14 Dec 2005 - 20:09
does this support animated msn display pics?
#32 TRshady on 14 Dec 2005 - 20:27
hello[s][u][i ] [color=#FFCC66]
#33 darkhooda on 14 Dec 2005 - 22:00
Currently, as in any popular software, people already got ways to get into this one without a special autorization, though I think some features might be disabled.
#34 dave164 on 14 Dec 2005 - 23:20
Im loving it so far, 42mb memory usage though without any convo windows open

Ah well nvm, it looks and feels great, few noticeable bugs though
#35 Monchy on 15 Dec 2005 - 00:19
To my fellow Canadian testers:

Have any of you got your email with the download link yet, or is the french text bug still being worked on?
(4 replies) #36 norseman on 15 Dec 2005 - 01:25
no canadian download available yet.... waiting here as well..
#36.1 anom on 15 Dec 2005 - 03:00
hmm...I got an invite but it didn't work...(in Canada)
#36.2 RomeoPlayer69 on 15 Dec 2005 - 04:21
For All you Canadain testers I emailed and asked, here's what I got back:

Romeo,

Our records indicate you are registered in the Messenger 8 beta program. There are currently no downloads available for that program group. The Microsoft Connect Help Team does not have any program specific information. Questions regarding downloads for a particular beta program might be better directed to that program group. As the pre-survey is the only available option, our guess would be that the program group may wish to review the data from the survey before making the download available. Our recommendation would be to keep checking the download area for that program on the Connect site.

Thank you for your interest in testing Microsoft products!
Microsoft Connect Help Team

#36.3 leojei on 15 Dec 2005 - 08:02
The bits is not hosted at Connect, rather it is hosted at live.com~ The beta is just using Connect as a way for us to bug stuffs.
#36.4 anom on 15 Dec 2005 - 17:36
what address did you email at?
#37 bjc4ever on 15 Dec 2005 - 02:25
i got it too, good job ms
#38 PGHammer on 15 Dec 2005 - 05:50
I run WLM 8 and YM 7 side-by-side (as I did MSN Messenger and Yahoo Messenger before). Amazingly, I find WLM 8 more cooperative in side-by-side ops than MSN Messenger 7.5 was. Because I no longer have to use a kludge of a patch, memory usage is actually *less* than with MSN Messenger 7.5 doing the same things. Except for AIM Triton (now out of beta) I have found none of the latest beta round of official IM clients especially *piggy* (and in Triton's case, the extra pigginess is laid squarely on the shoulders of AOL Explorer, which Triton includes).
#39 dman87 on 15 Dec 2005 - 14:52
canadian here, got it the moment i woke up and checked my inbox.
#40 Troyus on 15 Dec 2005 - 18:11
I'm also from Canada, and I got it this morning. I must say, I'm very impressed with this new beta, alot better than version 7.5. Offline messaging, cool file sharing, much better GUI...very good! I took a bunch of screenshots, check them out here: http://marcustroiano.com/gallery/v/tech/wi...ssenger-8-beta/
#41 cappuangel on 16 Dec 2005 - 01:18
omg... i want to be the tester
#42 dave164 on 16 Dec 2005 - 11:14
I personally adore this beta, looks so much better, dispite the 32 bugs that i have filed

Got my 2 invites this morning, but there gone already to my FREINDS who i know they will participate

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