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Microsoft Updates Windows Vista Homepage

Mr magoo   on 05 January 2006 - 13:54 · 78 comments & 33312 views

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After a brief demo at the on-going CES conference in Las Vegas, Microsoft have launched a re-vamped version of the website for Windows Vista.

The slick new look makes a break from the often bland Microsoft product pages, and moves towards the Glass theme expected in Vista. Perhaps of most significance is that the pages underlying code is put together with more 'modern' html code (div tags, for example, rather than tables). Also of note is the RSS feed, added, no doubt, after cajoling from a certain Microsoft blogger.

The website hosts a fairly detailed break down of some of the major features announced to date, and also some less well publicised ones; Windows Calendar, for example, is covered on their 'for the home' page.

It's launch marks the start of what will be one of Microsoft's most important years. Windows Vista, expected in the latter half of this year, has much riding on a successful launch and quick adoption.

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(7 replies) #1 Chrisg1990 on 05 Jan 2006 - 13:58
The site looks great, Shows that we are in the Digital age, and dont need a gray background and Black text, to move about in Windows Websites.
#1.1 aristotle-dude on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:16
You have got to be kidding me. Are you a fanboy or what?

The site looks good I will grant you that but talk about the ultimate hyperbole. Give me a break.

Use google and look for CSS2 and you will be surprised by what you find on the web. Welcome to the late 90's.

When I first started out, I made the common mistake of using a images and dark colours for a background.
This page is not a good example of web design. You should always make your pages accessible including making them printable especiallly when you are presenting textual information. At the very least, they should have provided a link to an alternate style sheet for a printer friendly version.

These pages and onward do not have the same problem of smelling like the late 90's.

Having said that, there are exceptions to that rule like say an artist's portfolio or gallery site or a site for a movie. Many times those types of sites are flash and are thatway for a reason. The reason is usually to stop people from pilfering content.

*edit*
This site does have a major problem with accessiblity since I cannot seem to get any alt text on any of the images on the site or the navigation. That is a big no no for accessibilty.
#1.2 Zelpus on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:24
I have two gripes about this site. First the background doesn't tile and ends abruptly on the right side. Secondly they focus way too much oh stock images then actual design. Anyone can throw a stock photo with some text on it and a menu and call it a website.
#1.3 marlow714 on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:40
aristotle-dude - you have to be the biggest troll of them all. Every last msg you post in anything MS related is nothing but anti-MS babble. Take your pills.
#1.4 purush on 05 Jan 2006 - 18:22
I have to give credit to Chris for his unbiased review of the web design. I liked your clear perception of the various probabilities in designing a web page. An excellent and constructive criticism Chris. Keep it up.
#1.5 sigloiv on 05 Jan 2006 - 19:01
The only thing I don't like about it is the fact that it doesn't render well in Opera. I mean, for the most part, it all looks fine, but the that "Introducing Windows Vista" image is two-thirds chopped off from the top.

After trying the page in Firefox, this appears to be an Opera-specific issue...stupid M$.
#1.6 aristotle-dude on 05 Jan 2006 - 20:57
marlow714, I criticized the front page for not being printer friendly and the entire site for not being accessible for people with disabilities. Those are valid complaints. Stop being such a fanboy.

Looking at my post, I did not say anything specifically anti-MSFT. I was talking about the website.
#1.7 Shadrack on 05 Jan 2006 - 23:56
meh, its an advertisement. None of the information in it is critical. There main objective is to sell an image to a large audience, not be concerned with accessability. Advertisement is, for the most part, putting together a lot of stock photographs and making your information seem "BIG."

As for Windows Vista... Reading through the site, I'm having a hard time figuring out what exactly Windows Vista will do for me that Windows XP doesn't already.

"As you use your computer to access more information, perform more tasks, and interact with more software applications, you increasingly face information overload. You open a Web browser just to check the weather, open an application to view your calendar, and open a calculator program to simply add numbers. You need simple, specialized, and lightweight mini-applications that put information and tasks at your fingertips—no matter what you're doing."

I don't see how having more crap on your screen lowers the amount of "information overload."

Is that just me.
#2 xxdesmus on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:08
pretty cooling looking redesign though there still isn't all that much information until you dig into the site.
(1 reply) #3 Banzai on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:10
wow that looks red hot, !me wants!
#3.1 The Grasshopper on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:49
in other words...
slow news day
(9 replies) #4 king_turkey on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:11
Its fantastic that its new and pretty and uses fancy html, but is it standards compliant? My guess would be no because it doesn't work in Opera, it screws up one of the images it uses. On a side note, using images that are purely text is bad web design and it is just stupid.
#4.1 mram on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:23
Opera will not replace the default rendering engine of the UI elements, just like XP.
#4.2 allen2404 on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:35
Why ask a question if you're gonna answer it anyway?

And the site works just fine in Firefox.

Hmmm.
#4.3 Zionyx on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:41


Almost compliant. 9 Errors by the W3C Validator. Pity its not XHTML, but its still an improvement.

Edit: testing a bug.

Edit again: testing a fixed bug.

bork.


Last edited by Zionyx on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:31
#4.4 The_Decryptor on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:01
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#4.5 mgdodge on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:24
I find it amusing that their css contains an IE5 hack, and they have even labelled it as such.
#4.6 sphbecker on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:03
"On a side note, using images that are purely text is bad web design and it is just stupid. "

This is commonly done if you want to add effects or fonts.
#4.7 The_Decryptor on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:19
You can use images for text, but you should either...

a) add an alt tag to the image.

b) add the text in normally, then push it off screen with css, and use that to add the image in.

that way it looks fine for sighted users, but blind users can still get at the text.
#4.8 allen2404 on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:39
According to the W3C Validator, www.neowin.net has 111 errors, and www.google.com has 46. Yet nobody makes an issue about them.

What? Is that some kind of anti "M$" bias I hear?

Couldn't be.
#4.9 Zionyx on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:43
Patience. Google has some major errors, but I presume they are to keep the page size at an absolute minimum.<br><br>Neowin is, in a way, a giant placeholder until NW5. Which, as it has been said, valid pages will rule NW5.<br>

(2 replies) #5 john fru on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:13
does this mean that the ui is basically final. did they demostrate the old whistler theme publicly, before xp launched?
#5.1 mram on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:21
It does seem to imply the big changes are done.

However, I strongly expect there will be many gadgets/widgets to add some flair, and possibly some additional themes. Remember MS has to cater to the lowest common denominator, so advanced UI bits will not be present in any default scheme.

At least, I'm hoping...
#5.2 Zionyx on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:37
Blahaha. Wrong place.
#6 matt74441 on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:15
Very slick looking.
(4 replies) #7 bboy on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:21
Wow, now we will have a nicer looking security hole laden OS that will need daily patching.
Bill, fix your current crap before you go on to selling us new messes....ugh!
#7.1 mram on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:25
Considering that no software -- including OSX, Linux, Unix, etc -- is ever truly "fixed", I don't see the problem with promoting software with new features. Call me crazy.
#7.2 marlow714 on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:05
What a troll. Take your pill and sit down.
#7.3 Computer Guru on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:09
Hey guys..<br>Did you know that XP was written at at time when no one gave a sh!t about security? seriously.<br><br>BUT windows 2k3 was written at the start of the security strengthening wave.. though OS was built on windows XP = inherently insecure<br><br>BUT iis 6 =! built on IIS 5<br>IIS 6 = 2 holes in its entire history.<br><br>How much did 'security concious apache' have?<br>(I use apache and IIS, just hate trolls)<br>

#7.4 sphbecker on 05 Jan 2006 - 23:11
Security was an issue when XP was designed; security had been a big issue for Microsoft for about two years, but it takes more time then that to completely secure a package as complex as Windows. Windows 2003 was really the first fruit of Microsoft's new security priority; I expect all future versions of Windows will build from its example.

Anyway, Windows was insecure due to sloppy development in the past. No real way to sugar code that.

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#8 Steven on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:34
Microsoft Update Windows Vista Homepage.

That gives me the idea that Microsoft Update for Windows Vista's Homepage is out.

How about..

Microsoft update the Windows Visita Homepage.

See "The" changes the whole thing :p
#9 vetSMeK on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:41
sounds fine to me, if they put Microsoft Update ON Windows Vista Homepage it might be confusing :p
#10 Liger™ on 05 Jan 2006 - 14:41
omg that ugly start button

Ahhhhhhh my eyessssssssss
#11 Nexx295 on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:02
I just... can't believe my eyes... It's wonderful.
#12 marlow714 on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:04
WOW! Very impressive. Sweet site design. Nice new innovative features + some copied ones. Yum. Love all the trolling comments! Deal with it!
(4 replies) #13 mr_da3m0n on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:04
Renders like penis on Safari...
#13.1 Computer Guru on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:12
Upgrade to Vista&nbsp;<img src="images/smilies/laugh.gif">

#13.2 timdafweak on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:31
lol computer_guru! time to move to Windows mr-demon
#13.3 couture on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:28
Yeah it doesn't render at all well in Safari, although I will say it's a big step up from their previous designs.
#13.4 mr_da3m0n on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:24
On second try, it also renders like flaccid penis on Firefox on my Linux box.
But that is to be expected.
#14 Computer Guru on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:16
Oh yeah.<br>Title should be Microsoft Update<b>S</b>....<br><br>I came here thinking there was a new Microsoft Update (the new version of Win Update)<br><br>

#15 kirk26 on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:21
Microsoft Updates Windows Vista Homepage
(4 replies) #16 ~D~ on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:25
Why is everything from post 4.4 and down written Orange?
#16.1 pHaez on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:37
lemme check.

Last edited by pHaez on 05 Jan 2006 - 22:21
#16.2 theyarecomingforyou on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:40
The bigger question is why are half the replies in bold? (and no, I haven't bolded my post)
#16.3 The_Decryptor on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:20
It's fixed, nothing to worry about, lets all forget about it and move on :p
#16.4 Zionyx on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:40
Yes yes, was just some bug testing in #neowin... found, and pHaez fixed, 2 rather nasty bugs. Props to him for that.

#17 minigun on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:33
looks great love the transparent box
#18 aflo on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:36
sidebar!
#19 wetlegs6 on 05 Jan 2006 - 16:48
Yes theyve always said the sidebar will be in the final release...

That page looks pretty awesome...
#20 Hot_Shot_NN on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:06
Funny, I can't find anything "ground breaking" in Vista.
Almost every new feature presented on Vista homepage is already in MacOS X.
#21 Matt500 on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:07
Page looks ok, ms seem to have caught up with other sites, well done. They should have called Vista windows eye candy as Im not that intrested in any of the features at all. Very big let down for me.
(1 reply) #22 Matt500 on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:08
They forgot to add the pic of eminem to make it all really "cool"
#22.1 toadeater on 05 Jan 2006 - 23:20
You gotta love that gangsta rapper w/ the guitar. They should throw in a Miami Vice "synthtar" player and that fictional 1980s New Wave saxophonist that only appeared in late night cable B-movies but never in any real bands.

MS, here's some advice, take those lame clipart stereotypes off the page, you'll annoy far fewer people that way. They're going to buy Windows anyway, because they have no choice.
#23 madnuke on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:22
Nice! That background is cool as well anyone have it?
#24 chrisxtreme on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:37
I think the old site looked better, though the darkness of this one kind of goes along with the dark/black taskbar/start menu.
(3 replies) #25 Jugalator on 05 Jan 2006 - 17:39
It looks pretty good, but with that simple layout, it's mind boggling how it more or less breaks one some modern web browsers. How come Microsoft is so often fighting with this and lots of web designers with showcases on the web aren't? Talking about csszengarden etc -- these look great, on all browsers I've tried them on, and with this Vista site that mostly just has a pretty background image and simple positioned content, it just doesn't work right on some browsers...
#25.1 SomeAzn on 05 Jan 2006 - 18:24
It works in IE and Firefox just fine.
#25.2 Miran on 05 Jan 2006 - 18:40
That's nice SomeAzn.. But those aren't the only browsers. It doesn't work in Safari, and Microsoft themselves recommend using Safari on the Mac.
#25.3 Crayon on 05 Jan 2006 - 19:55
but microsoft doesn't recommend using the mac.
#26 Kalphegor on 05 Jan 2006 - 18:17
Does WMP11 support AAC?
If they want to playback HD-DVD in H.264 format they need codecs for both AVC and ACC, so..?
#27 someotherguy582 on 05 Jan 2006 - 18:30
I'm loving the design. Windows Vista looks like its really coming along.
(3 replies) #28 Miran on 05 Jan 2006 - 18:39
I'm really not trying to troll, but after looking at some of the features they are touting, I realize that I had no idea how much Vista has "taken" from OS X.

I know that OS X has taken from Windows in the past, blah blah.. but just look at some of the major features: - search for system config options in the control panel == spotlight sys prefs search
- "gadgets" + sidebar == dashboard
- 3D flipper thing == expose

Anyways, on topic, the site looks nice but does need to lose some of the giant pictures.

#28.1 Daedalus on 05 Jan 2006 - 19:17
I hate to be the one to point out the obvious... none of those features where original for Tiger either. They were all available in seperate apps (I suppose with the exception of expose) before they were integrated into the OS.

It's just logical progression, not necessarily copying.
#28.2 Miran on 05 Jan 2006 - 20:32
I understand that. However, it still seems like deja vu reading the selling point for Vista and Tiger. I guess partly it has to do with the fact that there doesn't seem to be much else that Vista has to offer (other than being a windows OS with loads more software+games available than OS X).

Also, although the ideas were there for all these features before Tiger, it was Apple who put them in the OS, and MS is following suit, so they are essentially copying the features, not the original ideas.

Anyways, I think I should quit before going much further off topic.
#28.3 sphbecker on 05 Jan 2006 - 23:15
For those who follow the tech news more closely we know who took from who. Yes, Apple brought those features to market faster, but Microsoft flaunted them back in 2003 long before Apple ever hinted at any of those concepts.

You have to remember that Vista is about 2 years behind; all of its features were made public long ago. Luckily, for Apple, security issues delayed Vista and Apple was able to copy them before they came to market.

Vista and XP both have a host of features that OS X does not. They are not really sexy things that impress people when looking at a web page, but very useful and nice to have. Most of these features are in the networking area. MS is years ahead of Apple when it comes to networking; both in large managed shops and small home networks.

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#29 andi_kam on 05 Jan 2006 - 20:59
absolutely awesome design, very impressed, gives a lasting impression. Fit for the purpose.
#30 tiwaris on 05 Jan 2006 - 21:10
Maybe, I am different, but it does not look like a corporate website. It looks more like a hobbyist's site for WinVista or a presentation site for VISTA.

For a corporate site: accessiblity, content, design, easy navigation, proper rendering on all major browsers is very important. I am using firefox on linux and "The Features" page did not display properly.

#31 MasterSpy on 05 Jan 2006 - 23:06
The picture of the guy on the hill. Does anyone know if Microsoft have released a Wallpaper of that, and if so where could I download it?
#32 kirk26 on 06 Jan 2006 - 00:55
LOL, after many times of people tell Neowin to change the title of the news story (they deleted alot of those suggestions) they finally correct the title. Bravo!
#33 DarkeSword on 06 Jan 2006 - 03:10
I wish they would talk more about virtual folders; I really like the idea of moving towards a flattened, virtualized file system based on metadata, as opposed to manually sorting all of my stuff in folders. I've started sorting my email in Thunderbird using search folders lately, and it's so much easier to find what I'm looking for without having to remember what folder I put that email in. ^_^
#34 bluemusic on 06 Jan 2006 - 17:44
It renders like crap in Safari... If I can't even read up about the competition how can I even become interested? You'd think that MS would make sure that the homepage of their flagship renders nicely for those they shold be trying to convince the most. Anyway, I hope MS gets Vista right and make me think twice whether to buy another Apple laptop next time. I like the PDA-like laptop features of that second outer miniscreen for example.
#35 Divide Overflow on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:01
[WinFanBoy]Pardon my sarcasm, but that is the question, isn't it? Why does Microsoft not bother trying to get the Windows Vista website to render properly in Safari? I personally think that they're trying to keep Apple fanboytrolls, especially the few prominent ones that have already posted in this thread, from even thinking about switching to Windows. Think about it. . do you really want someone that rabid using the same OS you do? Someone who has nothing better to do than to find something negative about you every day?

It really makes me wonder. . why do Apple fanboys even bother coming here? Why do they visit a Windows fanboy site? The answer is simple. To troll. I've never visited an Apple fanboy site, but something tells me that there are no Windows fanboys there trolling for flames. Apple fanboys might say, "Well, thats because Bill Gate$ is teh antichrist, Windows was coded by munkies, and Windows PeeCees have no style!" The fact is that Bill Gates is certainly not the antichrist, no more than Steve Jobs is. . Bill Gates is a scheming capitalist, who performs business as if the market were his own personal chess board, just looking for the next person to crush. Steve Jobs on the other hand, is an asshole who's marketing flair only appeals to people who have already "switched" to his company's over hyped products. "Redmond, start your photocopiers!" Really, even if that were true, how many normal Mac users (as in, those that don't troll forums defending their use of an Apple machine) actually know where Microsoft and Apple are headquartered? Do they really care? People work with what they like and with what they are familiar with and don't give a damn who stole what from whom, wether or not the accusations are true, or any other such nonsense.

On another note. . In my not so humble opinion, anyone who uses a Mac because it has more "style", not because they simply prefer it over a Windows box, deserves to be a character in the box office flop Zoolander. You probably would fit in quite well.[/WinFanBoy]

Bring it, fanboys!
#36 WoodlandSpirit on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:14
Decent design overall but they still can't do roll over buttons properly, can anyone do proper roll over buttons right these days?
#37 miguelangel236 on 10 Jan 2006 - 05:19
it looks great i don't know about you all it looks and feels great!

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