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Panasonic Unveils Blank Blu-Ray Media Prices

stncttr908   on 06 January 2006 - 21:24 · 67 comments & 16866 views

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In another bit of Blu-Ray news this day, Panasonic has revealed its recordable and rewriteable media specs and initial prices.  Beginning in spring 2006, Panasonic will begin supplying single and dual layer discs in 25 and 50GB capacities to consumers seeking high-capacity removable storage.

Single layer, recordable discs will debut at $17.99 and $42.99 each respectively.  Rewriteable varieties will see $24.99 and $59.99 price tags per disc.  While initial prices seem high in comparison to DVD and HD DVD formats, Sony, the main developer and supporter of Blu-Ray, claims that once mass production takes place the price differences will quickly erode.  The discs will write at 2x speeds and will be read by consumer electronics players and computer devices.  To put this into perspective, 1x in Blu-Ray terms is 36Mbps or roughly 4.29MBps, while standard DVD speed is measured in multiples of roughly 1.32MBps.

Panasonic boasts many special in-house developments which went into its discs.  Special inorganic light-resistant materials were used for recordable discs, while rewriteable discs use a highly sensitive recording film.  New surface treatments are employed to make the discs more durable the resistant to scratches.

Panasonic expects its recently announced PC burners to be available this quarter, while consumer players will debut in Q2 of this year.

News source: X-bit labs




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(11 replies) #1 VikingStorm on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:32
Think I'll wait until it reaches <$5... in two years.
#1.1 2xSilverKnight on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:41
two years ? Give it a year and less. Start counting when the ps3 will be out.
#1.2 neufuse on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:50
when PS3 is out? ha... I cant wait to see the final priceing on that thing considering a blu-ray drive alone costs
$1000 and the entire player is around $1800
#1.3 sphbecker on 06 Jan 2006 - 22:40
Anyway, why would a PS3 effect the price of black media at all? It is not like game will be sold on burned media; they will be pressed just like everything else.
#1.4 daftperception on 06 Jan 2006 - 23:23
because that is how dvd's got excepted and made cheap by availalbility and competitors. See the ps2 made a dvd player in every home because people saw it as a chance to have a gameplayer and a dvd player so they bought them like crazy that's why the dreamcast failed. So hope that makes sense.
#1.5 TRC on 06 Jan 2006 - 23:28
DVD players were becoming popular long before the PS2's were in the home. It had nothing to do with it.
#1.6 mufdvr3669 on 07 Jan 2006 - 01:13
Was my first DVD player along with a couple of my friends. I'm sure it was a lot of people's first DVD players so it had something to do with it.
#1.7 yert* on 07 Jan 2006 - 01:48
It was in Japan where the ps2s were cheaper than dvd players and were bought more for the dvd player than a gaming console...
#1.8 yert* on 07 Jan 2006 - 01:55
It was in Japan where the ps2s were cheaper than dvd players and were bought more for the dvd player than a gaming console...
#1.9 Nitrate on 07 Jan 2006 - 14:45
PS2 was the first DVD player in my house and was the only one for about a year.
#1.10 cryptic on 07 Jan 2006 - 16:01
I cant list two people I know who watched DVD's on a PS2 on a regular basis. DVD players were well established before the PS2. Indeed it had nothing to do with the cost of blank media for DVD's. This may be different with the PS3 as there are not very many Blu ray players around right now as far as I know. So one could argue it may help but I doubt it.
#1.11 Shadrack on 07 Jan 2006 - 17:54
PS2 had very little to do with the success of the DVD format. The video game market is big, but it is really overshadowed by the home video market (by far).
(1 reply) #2 Buttus on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:34
wow, the PC drive and (i assume) stand alone TV player are pretty expensive...
#2.1 leojei on 07 Jan 2006 - 04:49
$995, that reminds how expensive DVD were. =.="
probably 4 years later, it'll probably remind me how cheap DVD is now
#3 hotdog963al on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:38
I have that spare Drive bay in my new PC ready and waiting
(2 replies) #4 neufuse on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:52
man its gona take a long time to write those discs... especially at 50GB... if it only does 4.29MB/ps... my DVD recorder now burns faster then that at max speed... hope that 2x will be a lot faster... and they improve recording speeds
#4.1 sphbecker on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:55
You don't really have to hope. A 2x burner will burn at (wait for it) 8.58MB/s.
#4.2 khaos34 on 06 Jan 2006 - 22:09
Yeah, it's already at about half the speed of the fastest DVD burner. Once it hits 8x, it'll be 1.6 times faster than the fastest DVD burner When 16x hits, it'll take about 6.2 minutes to burn a 25gb disc.
(1 reply) #5 sphbecker on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:54
"While initial prices seem high in comparison to DVD and HD DVD formats, Sony, the main developer and supporter of Blu-Ray, claims that once mass production takes place the price differences will quickly erode."

Sony has said a lot of things about BluRay that seem unlikely. Sure the price will drop, but I think HD-DVD is going to have a very clear price advantage at first.

LOL, anyone remember back when Sony was making the claim that players and media wouldn't cost anymore then HD-DVD. I still think that both formats are going to make it and that dual-mode plays will become the norm, but things keep looking better and better for HD-DVD.
#5.1 RangerLG on 07 Jan 2006 - 19:12
Seems like they said the same thing about Betamax video tapes too. Also mini-discs.
(1 reply) #6 Jack31081 on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:54
what did blank DVDs cost when they first hit the market?

I can't see these prices staying that high for more than a year. Like neufuse hinted at, after the PS3 hits, Blu-Ray will get a sizable user base and the prices will come down.
#6.1 Julius Caro on 07 Jan 2006 - 00:39
I remember DVD-R/+R beeing at 10 euros when they hit the consumer market
#7 hardgiant on 06 Jan 2006 - 21:57
Can't wait until they are $100 and 8x speed.
(4 replies) #8 nw_raptor on 06 Jan 2006 - 22:13
Yeah, like we're gonna wait 48 minutes for a 25gb disc and 97 minutes for a 50gb one. (at 2

edit: btw, the numbers 48 and 97 are not random... i did a little math...
#8.1 Arch on 06 Jan 2006 - 23:25
I've waited 30 minutes to burn a music CD before. It was quite the norm a few years back actually, and many people will see the benefit to backing up data.
#8.2 TRC on 06 Jan 2006 - 23:55
I used to wait 74 minutes back when I had my first CD burner, a Ricoh 1x CD-R (cd-rw didn't exist).
#8.3 Mathiasdm on 07 Jan 2006 - 11:53
I used to wait 12 years while my neighbour carved the data in a CD with a sharp stone.
And that was after I waited 20 000 years for him to invent the CD!

Ah, those were the days...
#8.4 RangerLG on 07 Jan 2006 - 19:13
Did you wade through waist deep snow to get the original to him?
(3 replies) #9 mayamaniac on 06 Jan 2006 - 22:20
these are early adopters prices, at $18, for a pack of 50, its $900, or $1800 for 100.

I think the rest of us will stick with DVDs for quite a while.
#9.1 Julius Caro on 07 Jan 2006 - 00:44
Think about it... 50 of those discs is 1,25TB.. that's A LOT.
I haven't seen DVD recorables in packs of 50.. I have seen packs of 50 or 100 CDs (70 GB).
They seel packs of 10 DVDs though, and only 20 DVDs will be 96 GB.. with 7 25GB blurays you get 105 GB...

My point is.. the greater the capacity, the fewer discs you need.. the smaller those packs will be.
#9.2 corrosive23 on 07 Jan 2006 - 07:07
What the hell are you smoking. Ive seen packs of 100+ dvds in stores, and there are places all over the net you can buy 50 or 100 pack spindles of them for less than $39.99 for 100&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;

#9.3 Greenmuncher on 07 Jan 2006 - 18:03
I'e got two 50 packs sitting infront of me....
(1 reply) #10 Cyranthus on 06 Jan 2006 - 22:40
i dont think i would ever pay $60 for one disk...
#10.1 Ideas Man on 07 Jan 2006 - 11:23
Imagine what you'd do if you stuffed it up.
(1 reply) #11 Coolme on 06 Jan 2006 - 22:58
wow.. think of how much we'd be paying for games in these new formats.. lol
#11.1 Mathachew on 06 Jan 2006 - 23:03
(1 reply) #12 DJ Specs on 06 Jan 2006 - 23:21
Nice rip off.. forget about it.. A price so steep to burn to a fragile format that can scratch.. not to mention how slow it will be to burn a full disc. Might as well get another hard drive.
#12.1 Jugalator on 07 Jan 2006 - 01:21
Yeah, or not be on the bleeding edge and wait until these next gen discs have more broadly entered the market. It has basically always happened before.
(2 replies) #13 vlsi0n on 06 Jan 2006 - 23:34
Consumers won't touch that - laugh; 499$ or 799$ player, 18$ and 42$. Looks like sales will be almost non-exist until they wake and and realize that a consumer isnt willing to pay for a 18$ blank disc, let alone a 42$. If they do HD-DVD smart they put HD in bold (lol ) and then sells them for MuCho cheaper than 18$, but we have to see what their prices are like..
#13.1 vlsi0n on 06 Jan 2006 - 23:34
no edit..? I meant to include that "It looks like DVD will be staying for awhile!"
#13.2 Jugalator on 07 Jan 2006 - 01:22
What you write was true to both CD and DVD drives and their media too (costs unreasonable for avg consumers), so there's nothing new under the sun here. This was totally expected by me, and I also totally expect the prices to be normal sooner than we may believe now.
#14 Zirus1701 on 06 Jan 2006 - 23:42
I haven't bought dual layer DVDs because they are still much higher than regular DVDs. I'd just rather burn 2 DVDs instead.
#15 So-Unreal on 06 Jan 2006 - 23:55
the cost of 8.5 blank dvds are still supa high. i never really liked blue-ray anyway.
(1 reply) #16 Croquant on 07 Jan 2006 - 01:17
High blank-media prices is what is killing the DVD-RAM format. Take a lesson from history, Panasonic, unless you want Blu-ray to go the way of Betamax.
#16.1 TRC on 07 Jan 2006 - 02:15
I thought it was all the ignorant hicks who won't buy them because they are "different". People in Japan are so much more enlightened when it comes to using better formats. Magneto Optical, Minidisc, DVD-RAM, all vastly superior formats and very popular in Japan but over here people settle for the cheapest junk they can find at Wal-Mart. Oh and the cartridges scare people away too for some strange reason. The prices on the media are so high here because nobody buys them so few stores bother to stock them, so they are difficult to find. Short supply means high prices.
(3 replies) #17 aleks on 07 Jan 2006 - 01:22
I was about to get a Lacie external dual layer DVD burner today for my powerbook but I think I'll wait a couple months and just fork out the extra $200-300 for Blu-Ray capabilities.
#17.1 TRC on 07 Jan 2006 - 02:10
I hope you're joking; at least wait until the prices come down and see which format wins out. Dual layer DVD's aren't enough for now? It's your money though.

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#17.2 aleks on 07 Jan 2006 - 03:58
I think it will be a while before we either see format wins out but I know for certain, I will not be purchasing any HD-DVD disc that utilizes the VC1 codec (WMV9). This is not because its microsoft, but i know Apple will be stubborn to support this in final cut pro (going by the rumored FCP 6.0 HD features) and I haven't seen *any* VC1 codec implementations other than what Microsoft has licensed out.

To better explain my earlier comment, I'm talking about the single layer blu-ray burner itself that im willing to spend an extra $200-300 on... I don't think I will be buying the blu-ray writable media at $50.

#17.3 gaekwad2 on 07 Jan 2006 - 19:43
Apple will have to support it, VC-1 and full H264/AVC (not crippled as in QuickTime right now) support are mandatory if they want to claim to support HD-DVD or BluRay.
(1 reply) #18 tonyjr on 07 Jan 2006 - 03:12
I am not personally biased between the two formats - in the end, both may end up the same, as have done DVD+ and DVD -. Maybe blu-ray and HD-DVD drives with... cd-rw and DVD+-RW etc etc combos will come along. They will in the end. It's just the price and the time until they come out that bother me.. it drives me nuts as it probably does u all... But as usual no-one has the patience and 'must have' which is good and drives the prices down i think.... carry on i say and enjoy [img]images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]. I just wish they would push the prices down sooner and possibly big PC manufacturer's adopting the new technology as it comes out would help? What do you think?
#18.1 Ideas Man on 07 Jan 2006 - 11:28
+ and - DVDs weren't that big of a problem because all movies came out on -, so there was one movie format to pick from, DVD. The +- crap though IMO slowed down the market, and it wasn't until LG's +- drive that it took off.

This HD-DVD and Blu-Ray war will slow the industry down greatly. Considering movies will be released on both formats, and some people will pick one over the other in some circumstances, this will hurt sales where consumers can't make up their mind between DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray.

After all, who wants to shell out ridiculous amounts for a player and some movies for a format that may actually die out? These companies are doing everyone a disservice by launching this format war, nobody wins by having one, it is NOT good for competition, it actually slows everything down until one wins and whatever you buy is ensured to work.
(2 replies) #19 Octol on 07 Jan 2006 - 03:29
Just about all the electronic equipment I own is Panasonic. Digital cameras, security cameras and DVRs, my home theater system, and so on. But I draw the line at Blu-ray. If Panasonic doesn't support HD-DVD as well, it doesn't get any more of my money in the recordable disk and drive market.

If it's backed by Sony, I don't want it. In fact, there was a time when most of my electronics were Sony, but too many of its products started malfunctioning *way* too quickly, and I eventually ended up with all Panasonic stuff, which has worked flawlessly across the board. Every Panasonic product I've ever bought still works. The only thing left of Sony's that I have that still works is one TV. And if that goes, that'll be my last Sony product.

Frankly, I think that Sony is circling the bowl, and if Panasonic hitches its wagon to that company in any way, it's going to suffer some damage sooner or later. Mark my words.
#19.1 Danrarbc641 on 07 Jan 2006 - 06:16
Have you bought a DVD or CD recently? Both are Sony-backed technologies.
#19.2 Octol on 07 Jan 2006 - 12:23
As far as I'm aware, Sony backs breathing also.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Did I really need to say, "If it's promoted by Sony in opposition to a competing technology I don't want it" to get my point across?
#20 Mathiasdm on 07 Jan 2006 - 09:45
Only $ 18? Phew, I thought it was gonna be more.
Hah, in a year from now, prices will be below $ 5 :-P
(2 replies) #21 icebrain on 07 Jan 2006 - 10:09
any news on dual tech writers? HD DVD + Blu Ray in one box. I will wait for that :]
#21.1 Ravensworth on 08 Jan 2006 - 02:52
Needlessly complicated and expensive. We don't need two formats to begin with so let Blu-Ray die.
#21.2 Section 31 on 08 Jan 2006 - 05:44
I'll wait for the best of all worlds. CD-RW/DVD-RW/HD DVD-RW/Blu Ray-RW.
#22 Shadrack on 07 Jan 2006 - 18:09
42.99 for 50GB? ouch...that is almost $1 a GB. Much more expensive then current Hard Drives and DVDs per GB. Hard Drives are about $1 for 1.5GB, and DVD's are pennies/GB.

Doesn't that somehow defeat current trends with respect to newer burnable disc based technology have cheaper medium by todays standards? Even opening day. I guess consumer burnable CDs and DVDs always came some years after commercial mediums were available. Where in this case they are both coming out at the same time.
#23 advancedboy on 07 Jan 2006 - 19:14
lol, a 25 GB model is useless for me. Both computer's hard drives in my house don't even equal to 25GB, they equal to 20GB..lol
#24 nX07 on 07 Jan 2006 - 23:32
I remember back in July 2001 I bought an HP DVD Writer 200i,
Its specs were:
DVD+R
DVD+RW

DVD: 2.4x 2.4x 8x
CD: 12x 10x 32x

Price Tag: $879.00 Canadian before tax, Then I bought 10 DVD+R at 10.00 a peice before tax, and 5 DVD+RW 17.00 a peice before tax, then since I was 13 at the time I did not know how to install devices, so the install fee was 45.99 before tax, all in all it came to:


aprx. $1,280.00 Canadian.. and now the prices for Drive Alone in US Dollars is aprx. 1000.00, thats insane. I will defiantly wait. It was cheaper to invest in DVDs when they first came out than DVD to BlueRay, where its less efficient.

If we think, it was from CD to DVD, which was a much needed leap.. but now the leap from DVD to BlueRay is hardly needed, just for an example, a few people in this comment section stated they dont need that much storage ona disk, and its more efficient with other methods.

And still, it was cheaper for me to Buy a DVD writer, 10 +Rs, 5+RWs, and get it installed than it is for my JUST to buy a writer.
#25 DiEMOS on 08 Jan 2006 - 02:24
are you all forgeting about HD movies and etc...
plus if you say 25g is too much, then don't worry about spending a lot of money, you'll get one disc and back up whatever you need. All your mp3s for example. Get 50g one back up all your divx movies... i think its worth it... Plus its inevatble that the prices will drop.
#26 Section 31 on 08 Jan 2006 - 05:47
I'll wait until the price drops. I don't think it's wise to invest in this technology when it is so young. Give it a few months/years and let it age. We'll probably see (1 year?) 80GB Blu-Ray discs anyway.
#27 Echilon on 08 Jan 2006 - 13:10
That's only slightly cheaper than buying an external HD.

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