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Steve Jobs Keynote, From Macworld (New Laptop, Software)

Mr magoo   on 10 January 2006 - 17:12 · 142 comments & 57944 views

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We've been following this years Macworld keynote from Apple chief, Steve Jobs. Read up for our summary of what's new, what's been updated. Jobs started giving some information on the current state of Apple products. Apple have sold 42m iPods since launch (32m last year) and claim it to be the 'best music player in the world'. The company also claims to have sold 850m songs on iTunes (3m / day), and have 80+% of the market.

New for the iTunes store is SNL content. Comedy sketches from the show will be available for purchase from iTunes for the normal price. Also of note is new sports content for iTunes. Jobs commented that " for the first time last week we added some sports. For the first time with ABC and ESPN we put up some Bowl games." Apple have confirmed a FM tuner / remote for the Nano, and 5th generation iPod videos, costing $49.99 (image at engadget). Users will be able to tune the radio via the standard iPod interface. The FM feature announced today fills a hole that has long needed plugging, and marks a significant feature improvement for the product.

Jobs left arguably the best bits till the end of the keynote, so we've brought them forwards. Apple discussed their work with Intel, and said that thanks to Intel's hard work, the company had stayed on track with their goal of shipping Intel chip powered products. The first device to be powered by Intel will be the iMac. All other devices currently on the PPC platform will be converted to Intel by the end of the year. The new iMac comes with a built in iSight, as well as front row. However, it keeps the same design as well as the same size (17", 20" screen). Powered by dual core Intel chips, Jobs claims the iMac will be 2-3 times faster than existing models. Existing software is being transferred across (see below), with programs such as Office running well under Rosetta (universal binaries coming soon, free update), and programs such as Quark running as universal binaries. Microsoft, incidentally, have committed to supply Office for Mac users for the next five years at least.

Apple are launching today the Macbook Pro, a brand new laptop powered by a dual-core Intel chip. The Macbok Pro solves the heat issue that Apple had trying to get a G5 chip into a Powerbook. Slightly thinner than an existing Powerbook, the Macbook Pro will feature 15.4" screen ("as bright as the Cinema Display units), an iSight camera, and will run 4-5x faster than the Powerbook. It also features a IR sensor for the recently released remote control units. A rather novel magnetic power cord (in terms of the attachment mechanism) called MagSafe is also included, perhaps meaning an end to yanking laptops off tables. The Macbook Pro will ship in February, but Apple will be taking orders from today. Priced at $1999 and $2499 for 1.67GHz and 1.83GHz respectivly, they come with an ATi Radeon X1600, Airport Extreme and Bluetooth, 4x Superdrive, 512MB/ 1Gb RAM and 80Gb / 100Gb Harddrives. It weighs 5.6 pounds and comes with features previously seen on the Powerbook, like the backlight sensor, and DVI out for 30" displays.

Click here, for more information on the new Apple products.

All in all, a lot of new and updated products from Apple. The fact that so little time was spent on the iPod and iTunes puts to bed any sense that Apple might be drifting towards only that market, and proves the company has a lot more to offer. Interestingly, we didn't see either a cheap iBook release (see comments on new Intel chip based products later in the year) or the Mac Mini media center that so many had predicted. Neowin, sadly, wasn't at Macworld - we'd like to thank worldofapple.com, macrumors.com, and the ever reliable, engadget.com, for doing what Apple should do themselves.


Update Apple's store seems to be having some serious problems; the message saying 'back within the hour' has been up for the last hour or so; if you can't get through, we suggest you try again in a few hours.

View: Apple (currently getting badly hammered - expect long load times)
Link: Steve Jobs at Macworld | Intel & Apple
View: Macbook Pro Homepage


Jobs showed off their new imaging program, Aperture. The software is described as being to " the camera as Final Cut Pro is to Video". Also on show were Widgets, pieces of software sitting on the desktop performing unique functions (e.g. showing the weather). Apple now host 1500 widgets. Mac OSX 10.4.4, a minor update now available for download, has been released today, with new Widgets included. It will also run natively on the new Intel products (iLife and iWorks also work on the Intel chips, with the other Pro software coming in March - $49 trade in available). iLife has also been updated (making it iLife '06), with an improved version of iPhoto (claiming to be faster, and containing more editing features).

Photocasting has been formally announced today, allowing users to share photos in a similar fashion to podcasts. However, the service does appear to require .mac membership to use, or at least, to publish. Users will be able to subscribe to the RSS feed, making viewing platform independent. New versions of iMovie and iDVD were also demoed, with a host of new features in both products. iWork has also been updated, again, with a number of new features, like image editing. Apple will be offering the software for free for 30 days with all new Macs sold.

The '06 version of Garageband has new features to help podcasters, and includes an extended library of sound effects. New to the iLife package this year is iWeb (bad news for Dan Wood then?). iWeb lets .mac users publish (with one click, no less) photos, movies and music to weblogs via a simple Mac program. The program will include themes for easy publishing, and will also offer users the option of RSS feeds from their content. It will also allow users to take advantage of modern web gimmicks features like AJAX. iLife '06 is available today, for $69.99.

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#1 vetRadish™ on 10 Jan 2006 - 18:49
Great roundup Tom!

Radish™
(3 replies) #2 dhan on 10 Jan 2006 - 18:49
why dont we just remove the Apple section ?
#2.1 sphbecker on 10 Jan 2006 - 18:51
This post also concerned iPods and Intel and as far as Apple goes pretty big news. I am really not a big fan of the Apple section. I like to see the news about Apple as well and don't like looking in another place.
#2.2 HawkMan on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:46
you mean iPods made by apple.

and intel chips used in new iMacs ? you know the onesmade by... Apple ?......
#2.3 Shadrack on 10 Jan 2006 - 20:23
agreed. There isn't even day-to-day news posted in the Apple section, and it is inconsistent. Why not have a Microsoft and Linux news section as well?
(5 replies) #3 Daedalus on 10 Jan 2006 - 18:52
"What is notably not included is any sign of firewire ports"

- That would be a major concern if true...

EDIT: Evidently this was misinformation

Last edited by Daedalus on 10 Jan 2006 - 18:57
#3.1 toastyghost on 10 Jan 2006 - 18:56
MacBook Pro At a Glance
15.4-inch widescreen display
1.67 or 1.83GHz Intel Core Duo
667MHz frontside bus and main memory
PCI Express architecture
Up to 120GB Serial ATA hard drive
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 with up to 256MB memory on 16-lane PCI Express
ExpressCard/34 slot
Dual-link DVI, VGA adapter included
One FireWire 400 port, two USB 2.0 ports
Optical digital and analog audio I/O, built-in microphone and stereo speakers
Slot-loading SuperDrive
Illuminated keyboard, Scrolling TrackPad
Built-in AirPort Extreme (802.11g), Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, and Gigabit Ethernet
Mac OS X Tiger with iLife ’06 featuring iWeb, iWork ’06 trial, and more
#3.2 tiwaris on 10 Jan 2006 - 21:47
From Dell, you can get in around 2000 USD a much better laptop than Apple's offerings:

2 GHz Core duo with 2 MB L2 cache on each core
1 GB DDR2 667 MHz memory
17" UXGA+ display with truelife (extra bright and crisp)
60 GB 7200 rpm 8 MB buffer HD
Geforce 7800 go (256 MB memory) graphics
+ all the bells and whistles (including Windows media center edition)

#3.3 aristotle-dude on 10 Jan 2006 - 22:24
Does it run OS X? Does it come with the same bundled software? "It's the software". Does it come with a firewire webcam like the iSight builtin? Is it legacy free? Does it include an illuminated keyboard?

It all depends on what you value. If you think Windows media center is the the best thing since slice bread, go for that other machine then.

It weights a pound more too.

Last edited by aristotle-dude on 11 Jan 2006 - 03:28
#3.4 Sticktron on 10 Jan 2006 - 22:48
Except the Dell offering isn' t a Mac.
#3.5 ineedsleep on 11 Jan 2006 - 01:13
Something else I have not been able to find is the battery life for the macbook pro.
#4 Toastyone on 10 Jan 2006 - 18:53
Hey great roundup of everything, only thing I am a bit sad about is an Intel mini but oh well...


Edit and yeah the Macbook does have firewire, check out the specs: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/whatsinside.html#store
(2 replies) #5 sonnu on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:00
where can I see a video of the keynote?
#5.1 Sprocket on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:02
I don't think you can
Again, thanks for the roundup again Tom
#5.2 Glassed Silver on 10 Jan 2006 - 20:37
on apple.com they offer the keynote by steve jobs, that's all as far as i know... but at least something...

-fm
#6 KeR on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:02
that iMac is tempting, too bad I already have a G5 iMac Rev A.
#7 vetMr magoo on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:02
Yup, sorry for the confusion. I think people thought that as Steve hadn't mentioned it, it'd be dropped, but it features in the press releases so we're pretty sure it is in there.
#8 sonnu on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:05
(4 replies) #9 hotdog963al on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:06
Oh God.
The Name MacBook sucks!
What is the Powermac going to be called:
MacMac?

PowerBook - MacBook
PowerMac - MacMac
#9.1 divertom15 on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:18
No its more like this:
PowerBook -> MacBook Pro
iBook -> MacBook? (w/out pro), iBook (same name since it didnt have the Pro) (both unconfirmed)
PowerMac -> Mac Pro? (unconfirmed, but sounds right.)
#9.2 digitalthoughts on 10 Jan 2006 - 21:09
I think that this is a new product - not an upgrade from a PowerBook.

So now there's three laptops to choose from.
#9.3 teejaydm on 10 Jan 2006 - 22:34
I believe they want to distinguish their product from their PC couterparts.

Powerbook (G4 Powerbook) <=-- its not a pc laptop
Powerbook with intel duo processor <=-- normal people wont think that its an apple
Macbook with intel duo processor <=-- that's a mac

just a thought.
#9.4 Jstphish on 11 Jan 2006 - 14:31
I believe it isn't called the PowerBook any more because it's no longer running on a PowerPC processor.
(17 replies) #10 raskren on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:06
Apple has egg on their face. They've lied about G5 performance for years. They've lied and mislead consumers regarding Intel and the x86 architecture in general. Now they're eating crow.

I find it funny that their marketing department has shifted its focus from misleading the consumer regarding the guts of the PC to ridiculing PC users in general.

"What's an Intel chip doing in a Mac? A whole lot more than it's ever done in a PC."

Cute Apple, real cute. Welcome to 2006, its about time.
#10.1 machorro on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:11
OH DEAR GOD corporations lie

apple lied to us BOO HOO,

so has microsoft, so has intel, so has nvidia, and live goes on...
#10.2 raskren on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:15
...but with Apple, the Reality-Distortion Field makes it OK, right?
#10.3 bobbba on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:19
Get over it...
#10.4 marlow714 on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:20
LOL! Raskren has a point. The general public isn't as stupid as apple thinks they are.
#10.5 raxrat on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:42
Apple lied about G5 vs. Intel? Just because you're misinformed doesn't mean Apple lied. They were comparing G5 PPC 970 vs. Intel Pentium-4. The new macs have Intel Yonah, a second generation pentium-M that is a 65 nm process chip and the pipeline is WAY different from Pentium 4. Don't post ignorance
#10.6 sphbecker on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:58
He does have a point; lets examine. The new Intel Core Duo processors are faster, but not significantly faster then the previous generation processors. Many benchmarks show processors from the 600 family trailing by less then 20%.

This press release stats that these iMacs will be 2-3 times faster (that is 200-300%) then the last version (keep in mind Apple is not even offering the 2.0 or 2.16GHz clock speeds).

And of course we all remember Apples claims that the PPC5 was 90-some-odd% faster then fastest (at the time) Intel processors (that would have been the 600 family).

Of course performance is all about what you are doing, not benchmarks. Most benchmarks are based on games, which is a little unfair because new dual-core processors don't really get a chance to show off when running games.
#10.7 aristotle-dude on 10 Jan 2006 - 21:35
Most Benchmarks in PC magazines are indeed heavy on Games.

Don't forget that the benchamarks for Photoshop were conducted against the Windows version. It is well known in the industry that plugin load time on the windows version is much longer due to differences between OSX's loading and binding mechanisms and how dynamically linked code loads in the Win32 environment. GDI bottlenecks also played a contributing factor to slower initialization of the plugins.

There are also underlying OS differences with how large buffers are handled and allocated in the two OSes.

The DNA sequencing and LPAC benchmarks were examples of where the G5 with altivec truly excelled against the P4 processors of the time.

This new Yonah processor is a different animal from the Netburst based P4 in terms of cache design and pipeline length.

Let us not forget that we are now seeing the speed of this hardware on the same OS and it appears to be blazingly fast. Maybe it was the OS all along that made up the speed difference.

I will leave you all to think about that for a moment.
#10.8 sphbecker on 10 Jan 2006 - 22:51
That is just BS. Windows running on a P4 always kicked OS X on a G4/5's butt in benchmarks except for one conversation filter that wasn't properly optimized for the P4 (which happens to be the filter Apple always used in their own benchmarks :-)
#10.9 Pwn3r on 10 Jan 2006 - 23:04
Eh, Netburst was obsolete the moment those s754 Athlon 64's rolled off the manufacturing line
#10.10 Quick Reply on 10 Jan 2006 - 23:24
"What's an Intel chip doing in a Mac? A whole lot more than it's ever done in a PC."
Obviously, because an Intel chip in a PC is inefficient and has been underperforming in comparison to an AMD chip

hehe... just kidding


I agree with the Reality-Distortion Field though. I can see the Reality-Distortion Field is a real thing.
#10.11 aristotle-dude on 10 Jan 2006 - 23:50
That is just BS. Windows running on a P4 always kicked OS X on a G4/5's butt in benchmarks except for one conversation filter that wasn't properly optimized for the P4 (which happens to be the filter Apple always used in their own benchmarks :-)

Really? Did you read the fine print on the PC Mag benchmarks for Photoshop? Even the Dual G4 machines wiped the floor with the P4's when you included plugin load times. Look at the fine print of the article and you will see that they omitted that delay from the timings because it was caused by the loading mechanism of windows and GDI.

You also may not have noticed that the PC Mag benchmarks used small file sizes (30 MB or less) while the Apple tests were stress tests with 300MB files in the filter benchmark test plan.

Some might say that it was unfair but it highlighted the advantage the G5 had over the shared FSB Xeon and OS X had over windows with handling large datasets.
#10.12 GoogleNinja on 10 Jan 2006 - 23:59
Silly marlow, actually believing that the general public is not stupid. Just because 1% of the population cares about the benchmarks does not make them the "general public". Sorry.
#10.13 teejaydm on 11 Jan 2006 - 00:09
So does it mean that we don't have to believe the 4x speed increase? Does apple lie about this too?
#10.14 aristotle-dude on 11 Jan 2006 - 03:34
It is supposed to be 4X faster at running intel native OS X apps than the G4 powerbook running PPC native software on OS X. Notice that in this case both machine are running OSX unlike in previous comparisons.

This difference is caused by compiler optimizations and by the performance of this new family of intel chips at running OSX. OSX is a late binding OS which can benefit from the cache architecture and faster FSB the Ynah has to offer.
#10.15 threedaysdwn on 11 Jan 2006 - 04:59
I love when aristotle-dude posts mixed up marketing jargon that doesn't make any sense.

It's like he's the embodiment of the Reality Distortion Field.


The fact is that Apple will say whatever they're running on is the best. If it's PowerPC, they'll claim it's the best thing in the world. Now we see them do the same thing with Intel. They couldn't be right both times.

Back in reality, the PowerPC G5 was a fine chip - often comparable to its competition although usually priced at a premium by Apple. But it was by no means superior to Intel or AMD's offerings at any time by any measure.
#10.16 aristotle-dude on 11 Jan 2006 - 06:55
threedaysdwn, I was talking about the G4 but you are talking about the G5. The G5 is a fine chip especially for vector math on a desktop but unfortunately it is not a viable mobile chip. It consumes too much power.

Back to the chip I was talking about, the G4 had great FP/vector performance back in the day but technology moves on. It had a slow bus compared to other mobile chips and adding more cache help only so much.

In "reality", the G5 was better at certain highly vectored tasks like Gene sequencing LPAC and right now the Quad core G5 is still a monster workstation.

In "reality", the G5 certainly outperformed Intel and AMD offerings for cluster solutions last year on a price/performance scale. If you had looked at the the Top 500 list, any Intel or AMD solutions would have cost a lot more and had more processors than the G5 clusters.

I was totally aware that the tasks being performed by all of the clusters were highly paralleled tasks and would be no match for a real supercomputer for tasks that were mostly serialized requiring operations on large datasets contained in shared memory.

Which one of us is in the distortion field again?
#10.17 sphbecker on 11 Jan 2006 - 15:39
Say what you like. All I know for sure is the computers I use. My 5 year old PC runs most things about as fast as my 2 year old iMac G4.
(1 reply) #11 Rudy on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:11
it sucks that the macbook cost a fortune, i was going to get an ibook but i guess im not anymore.... well my gf is going to be happy now
#11.1 Rudy on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:19
i think they screwed up the pricing in the ACD store.... it show the imac as 1425 (cheaper than retail which is 1499) but the educational store has it for 1399 (ACD is ussually WAY cheaper than educational)
#12 saxondale. on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:20
Wow, really nice stuff Apple.
(2 replies) #13 divertom15 on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:22
funny how everyone thought the new macs with intel procs would be a lot cheaper (due to the intel proc) to compete with windows boxes. But they arnt LOL

But they are cheaper for Apple, who is the winner here. Guess they dont care to compete with microsoft.
#13.1 evo_spook on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:23
I think the Intel chip is more expensive then the IBM
#13.2 TRC on 10 Jan 2006 - 22:47
Yeah, it's not like they are building them entirely out of cheap off the shelve garbage like most oems do. What gave people the idea that Intel processors were cheap anyway? Isn't that one of the things people bash Intel about, because they are so expensive. Apple never said they were going to be cheaper; don't believe every rumour you hear.
(5 replies) #14 kitchenutensils on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:23
^na lol because on apple, apps like PS have always opened faster and performed better despite the processor not being as good as intels new architechture - which is another improvement that it now has
#14.1 evo_spook on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:27
Programs like PS performed better due to the Altivac Velocity engine which the Intel Macs no longer have
#14.2 Stunna on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:27
unless you run on AMD processors
#14.3 kitchenutensils on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:37
aah ok, what did the velocity engine do exactly? iv seen in the marketing stuff about that but it doesnt exactly explain it
#14.4 HawkMan on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:51
the old Motorola powerPC processors was very code optimized for color tabel conversion.

this made it perfect for photoshop worked, but also made them loose out in pretty uch ANYTHING else. I'm not so sure if the G5/powerPC5 cpu's had them though. but G4 and earlier certainly where.

and faster speed per cycle in one specific application does not make it a better cpu.
#14.5 raskren on 10 Jan 2006 - 21:14
oh, and BTW, content creation has been faster on x86 since the Athlon 64.
(1 reply) #15 Sinzen on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:29
I don't see the big hype behind this. Apple has come a long way from a few years back. Their designs and products are sweet but at the end of it all, after all the news/hype/releases it is still an Apple. If those dual core chips are speeding along 4 times as fast, then what is the speed of them on Windows, inside all those notebooks that are coming out of CES with those chips in them. I suppose they are basing the speed tests compared to their own product? I guess it would be like comparing an old school 81 Honda Civic to the 06 Civic Si then.

This kid is not impressed. Maybe if they would come out with an Apple Tablet PC that has some sweet handwriting software or even voice recognition software, along with iSight and quick launch nav buttons that works on EV-DO and has a good +8hr battery life, then my jaw would drop and my eyes would buldge. Here's to next year and to new consumer-centric multi-use high-def portable products.
#15.1 Stunna on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:33
isnt MS coming out with that around summer time? or do they already have it?
(2 replies) #16 weiran on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:30
Soo...... can we run Windows on the MacBook Pros? I think that's what everyone's dying to know !
#16.1 kitchenutensils on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:38
haha yeah my thoughts entirely :p
#16.2 Peelay on 10 Jan 2006 - 20:29
Yup, that's what I wanna know... can it dual boot?
(9 replies) #17 rob.derosa on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:41
itll run 4-5x faster than a powerbook

haha. glad they made the switch to intel, finally.
#17.1 aristotle-dude on 10 Jan 2006 - 22:02
Yeah, it will run OS X that much faster than the G4 which had a really slow FSB.

What you should wait for is benchmarks of Photoshop CS 2 for OS X (Universal Binary) and the windows version.

Any difference in speed will be due to differences in the OS architecture and API.
#17.2 imtoomuch on 11 Jan 2006 - 04:03
How many more times are you going to mention how much better OS X is at loading Photoshop? Big deal. You know of one program that loads faster on OS X and you keep mentioning that. I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from a closed-minded habitual Apple troll who admittedly thinks that Windows "sucks." What a joke.

Anyway, I'm anxious to try out the new iMacs. I think they're nice looking comps and I wanted to get one, but never did. Maybe the switch to Intel will make the iMac irresistable.
#17.3 aristotle-dude on 11 Jan 2006 - 04:58
Get over yourself already.

I use windows daily at work as a developer of "windows" software. I've used the following platforms:Mac OS 5.x-9.x, OSX 10.2-10.4, Windows 3.11-98SE, NT 4.x-5.1, Amiga OS 1.3-3.1, Linux, VMS, SCO Unix System V and FreeBSD 3.x. Et tu?

I use whatever tools I need to get the job done and when working in a windows shop I use windows.

I don't have to be a fanboy of MSFT in order to work with windows.

PS. You are the one that said it sucks, not me. It works ok most of the time. That's not high praise but it is realistic.
#17.4 imtoomuch on 11 Jan 2006 - 06:31
Haha get over myself? I think I should be saying that, not you. And I never said that Windows sucks other than to quote you because Windows doesn't suck. And it certainly does more than "work most of the time." Are you sure that you never said that Windows sucks? See the attached image below.

IPB Image
#17.5 aristotle-dude on 11 Jan 2006 - 07:03
Get a blog or take it to PM.

These machines use EFI instead of BIOS, so I don't see your point. I made that comment in June and now we have EFI machines.

GDI does suck (freezing and blow through) and so do the WMF and IE zero day vulnerabilities. You cannot argue against that. Maybe Vista will be better in that regard.

Stop taking my comments about windows personally.
#17.6 imtoomuch on 11 Jan 2006 - 07:22
No PM or Blog needed. I don't take the Windows comments personally. I just wanted to prove that you're the troll that you claim not to be. I'm done.
#17.7 Jugalator on 11 Jan 2006 - 11:55
That's just plain scary if you somehow store screenshots / caches or otherwise remember posts from June last year and recall them to post them here.

Actually, I doubt I've ever seen anything scarier on an internet forum :o

Talk about forum stalking... Can't say it's much better than trolling either.

Last edited by Jugalator on 11 Jan 2006 - 12:02
#17.8 Shadrack on 11 Jan 2006 - 16:04
''Talk about forum stalking... Can't say it's much better than trolling either.''

No doubt... You can't even search for comments in news posts (can you?). Wow..... Way to dig deep to prove a point, dude.

I'm not going to say "Windows Sucks", but damn there is a lot of room for improvement.
#17.9 aristotle-dude on 11 Jan 2006 - 17:29
I have said Windows does suck in the past. That is an emotional response that is only natural if you work with it every day and have a particularly frustrating day with windows specific issues.

Windows does get the job done in a business environment most of the time. I had used windows for a number of years at home and up until I got my mac, I thought windows had problems but I was a committed windows user. I started to realize that that there were some inherent flaws in the architecture of windows. The constant patching got tiresome.

To make a long story short, I eventually sold my PC to a coworker and have no problem connecting up to work via remote desktop and VPN with my mac when I have to either at home or on the road.

I will recommend these new macs to anyone that asks for my opinion on getting a new home computer or laptop. I also will never again help anyone with their windows problems outside of work.
#18 lammmetak on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:43
supreme apple products. /me is cracking his safe already
#19 chimera963 on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:43
hmmm...for some reason I'm barely impressed this year
Maybe it's coz there's no way I'm able to rake up the dosh to spend on a new iMac (the MacBook is NOT an option in it's current price)

It'd be better if they released the lower down macs first, such as ibook and mac mini
(6 replies) #20 Wolvereen on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:48
Any word yet if these new x86 Macs will be able to run PC programs natively or through a rosetta program?
#20.1 highsea on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:51
no, BUT windows boots natively on it
#20.2 weiran on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:55
highsea: how can you be sure?
#20.3 Trancosrt on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:58
Nobody knows for sure, but the hardware now has the capabilities of running windows and Apple has said earlier they wouldn't stop people from installing Windows in their boxes, but stop people from installing MacOSx on other boxes rather than Macs...
#20.4 rIaHc3 on 10 Jan 2006 - 20:46
Apple has said earlier they wouldn't stop people from installing Windows in their boxes


Source?
#20.5 roadwarrior on 10 Jan 2006 - 21:18
There is always Darwine, which allows you to run some Windows software on Intel Macs (this has been confirmed working with developer kit and hacked systems).
#20.6 TRC on 11 Jan 2006 - 00:50
Darwin is the open source part of Mac OS X, basically a modifed version of FreeBSD. It lacks the Aqua interface and other Mac OS specific stuff.
(3 replies) #21 Trancosrt on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:51
I don't like the new naming scheme. I wonder if they are going tokeep the PB line alive, since they still have them in the store and whatnot. I guess that MBs and PBs will coexist for a while, although I don't see the point of it. Nobody will buy a PB when they can get a MB, twice as fast with the same features...
I'll be excited with the2nd gen (or 1st update) Intel iBook, when they get the quirks of the new technology cleaned up and hax00rs already figured out how to double boot Windows so that I can stop emulating w2k to use Visual Studio.
It's a begining though. Great anouncements!
#21.1 HawkMan on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:53
why name it a powerbook when there's no powerPC chip in it.
#21.2 Trancosrt on 10 Jan 2006 - 19:55
Brand name I guess. "Everybody" knows PB is Apple's POWER user laptop. Is their professional line, hence more powerful. The new name makes sense, but i wouldn't have changed it.
#21.3 TRC on 10 Jan 2006 - 22:53
The name Powerbook has nothing to do with the PowerPC. The first Power