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Microsoft's InfoCard Draws Open-Source Response

malebolgia   on 27 February 2006 - 23:31 · 16 comments & 3308 views

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IBM and Novell on Monday are expected to announce an open-source response to Microsoft's forthcoming InfoCard identity management technology.

The companies plan to contribute to an open-source initiative code-named Higgins Project. The project aims to help people manage their plethora of Internet logins and passwords by integrating identity, profile and relationship information used across authentication systems on the Net.

The initiative also includes the Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard Law School and Parity Communications, a company developing "social commerce" software that has been operating in stealth mode. The open-source project, managed by the Eclipse Foundation, is a response to Microsoft's InfoCard identity management technology, Anthony Nadalin, distinguished engineer and chief security architect at IBM, said in an interview.

News source: ZDNet





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(7 replies) #1 XerXis on 27 Feb 2006 - 23:36
oh for gods sake, for once, just once, i'm begging them, can't they just all live together in peace and use the same things. please!
#1.1 markjensen on 27 Feb 2006 - 23:59
If Microsoft would freely license it under something GPL-compatible, then it could be included in Linux distros.

If the license terms are more restrictive than the GPL, then it can not be included. I haven't read Microsoft's license on this, but I don't recall any license that they have used that is GPL compatible.
#1.2 XerXis on 28 Feb 2006 - 00:08
did i ever say something about linux or that is was linux' fault? i don't think so
#1.3 markjensen on 28 Feb 2006 - 00:16
What is your issue?

You complain about the lack of cooperation on this, and I explained why the lack.

No need to get in such a snit.
#1.4 XerXis on 28 Feb 2006 - 00:22
i never said that linux lacks cooperation did i? i asked for just one standard, that's not saying it's linux' fault, they are open source and gpl as i'm well aware off. and i'm not saying it's microsofts fault, they have their shareholders to think off. i only said it would be nice if their could be a solution to this ever growing problem of microsoft de facto standards against open source. and i couldn't care less which companies attitude is going to change first. but don't make me say things i didn't say. microsoft certainly is no angel, but neither are ibm or novell. saying that i have an issue with linux is first of all completely false, and second has nothing to do with what i said. but i guess it's typicall that this thread will once become a m$ (yes i put the $ on purpose, because a lot of small children are going to put it there again) against the world thread.
#1.5 markjensen on 28 Feb 2006 - 11:30
You are arguing points to me that I am not making. I have never said that there is "blame" to be placed; it is just an issue of two licenses that are not compatible.
#1.6 HawkMan on 28 Feb 2006 - 12:06
Why does it absolutely have to be GPL'ed for everyone else to use ?

why wouldn't you be happy if MS just released the libraries to other peoepl could use it in their systems, why do they need the full source.
#1.7 markjensen on 28 Feb 2006 - 14:33
HawkMan,

You are correct that it doesn't have to be GPL. I never stated so. It just must be compatible with it to be freely distributed and included in Linux distros. That is, there cannot be restrictions on copying it.

Closed source items cause license problems, too. But a closed module can be installed and used as an 'after the fact' add-in (like nVidia's video driver modules). The GPL that governs Linux doesn't disallow users to do what they want. It just requires full freedoms to copy and re-distribute (source included). So a closed-source (and even very restrictive) add-in to Linux could be written by Microsoft, and downloaded and added-in by individual users/organizations.
(1 reply) #2 greensabath on 28 Feb 2006 - 00:26
One thing I don't understand, is the big deal about InfoCard. I mean, I understand what it is, and what it is for. But isn't it basically like what Passport was supposed to be. One identity to be used for all your info for the web. I think they are using the same kind of marketing here with Infocard. So if Passport failed, why do they think this will succeed. Someone please let me know if I am mistaken with the whole Infocard thing. Oh, and just another point, if in fact it is basically a rebranded Passport, you would think they would license it under GPL to get as many supporters as possible, but I guess that means they wouldn't get any money then.
#2.1 wilbert on 28 Feb 2006 - 00:51
It is different that passport in that yes, you do have "one identity", however the service is completly different and actually quite good. With Passport Microsoft held all of your information. Most people did not like this as all of a sudden Microsoft was in between you and the site you were trying to work with.

Infocard is different. With Infocard Microsoft does not store any information. Some of the information is stored on your system and the rest of it is stored on the 3rd party you are working with. It has the possiblity to be a good system esp since Verisign has signed on with the idea.
#3 advancedboy on 28 Feb 2006 - 01:54
What's the difference between this and Kwallet on KDE... I don't understand...
#4 Dr.Jones on 28 Feb 2006 - 02:40
Wow, Microsoft really can't start anything by themselves, they always take other companies ideas and make it their own and then make a big announcement out of it

/sarcasm
/wiseass
#5 frogworm on 28 Feb 2006 - 03:30
like clockwork. where is Sun and Google in their article?
#6 Colin-uk on 28 Feb 2006 - 11:03
Id rather use my brain
(1 reply) #7 marlow714 on 28 Feb 2006 - 11:21
Geez, the cheap..um...open source community really need to get together and come up with their own ideas.
#7.1 Stunna on 28 Feb 2006 - 17:09
Truth.
And set standards

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