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Robertson Launches Online Version Of MS Word

Mr magoo   on 23 March 2006 - 22:18 · 76 comments & 26780 views

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Michael Robertson, of MP3.com and Lindows - eek, we mean Linspire - 'fame' has today announced AJAXWord, an online Word processing app.

Robertson claims that the company has developed a library of AJAX based Office apps, that it will be launching over the coming weeks at AJAXLaunch.com. He wrote on his weblog that " ajaxWrite is a powerful word processor that can read and write Microsoft Word formatted documents. Anytime you need a word processor, need to open a .doc file or edit a .doc file, simply point your Firefox browser at ajaxWrite.com and in seconds a full-featured program will be loaded. For 90 percent of the people in the world, the need to buy Microsoft Word just vanished. This won't make Microsoft happy, but software users should be very excited that software just got cheaper, immediate and modern."

Helpfully, Robertson also wrote " As you probably surmised from the names ajaxLaunch and ajaxWrite, we are using AJAX technology to deliver this software magic." In case you missed it, they use Ajax. Hence the name.

We were quite optimistic to try out the latest offering from Robertson. After all, and online version of MS Word that was free surely had some market disruption power towards one of Microsoft's cash cows. However, slowly pondering previous offerings from his companies, we had quite low expectations for AJAXWrite, which were duly delivered. The claimed 'six second load time' was far from met, as the site struggled under the load of internet interest. We'll leave the user to ponder what'd be the effect of a medium - large company using the product all day long. When we did get it to load, in fairness, it did look surprisingly like Microsoft Word - what would be described as a familiar interface for any office worker. And, again, to be quite fair, it did function reasonably well. The menus were snappy, and you could easily be lulled into believing that you were, in fact, running the program locally. What functions it did offer seemed to be usable. That was, of course, till we tried to save our document. And it crashed Firefox, and the previous version of this report along with it. Very annoying*.

Sure, you'll say, an isolated incident. You're probably right. However, it brought home a deeper problem. Whilst AJAXWord superficially appears to be a good substitution for Word, the most basic exploration reveals serious deficiencies that few IT decision makers would accept. Microsoft Word, whilst obviously costing money, delivers certain functions that even the most clever AJAX apps can't match; Robertson's claim that most user's needs will be met simply doesn't hold.

* = Microsoft Word's auto-save feature, by the way, would have caught the document when it crashed, and saved this journalist's from having to write the story twice. We'll keep paying.

View: Michael's Minute
View: AJAXWrite




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(1 reply) #1 digitalsoft on 23 Mar 2006 - 22:21
i really want to try this out.. but it keeps error when i launch it
#1.1 Aeros on 23 Mar 2006 - 22:22
Requires Firefox 1.5 or higher...
#2 xxpor on 23 Mar 2006 - 22:23
u need firefox 1.5 or higher.
#3 digitalsoft on 23 Mar 2006 - 22:28
i have firefox 1.5 and it just doesnt work...
#4 trance on 23 Mar 2006 - 22:28
I have firefox 1.5 with javascript on and it still doesn't load...
#5 phrea on 23 Mar 2006 - 22:36
The site is getting hit major, it became a lot more popular than expected. I got it to load the main app, but did not feel like waiting for extra windows like the Open Document functionality needs to load. I say it is a step forward in the right direction and looks like it has potential.

But for those of you saying FF is required, even if you use it, you will most likely receive a lot of time outs till the buzz dies down.
#6 Chicane-UK on 23 Mar 2006 - 22:39
Well it was a little slow to load but it seems to work fine here.

Quite impressive actually. I do hate the forecasts of doom that this guy always has when he launches a new product (because yes, a web version of a word processor will spell the END for Office 2007 Professional.. sheesh) but its a bloody great step in the right direction! Will watch its development with interest!
#7 David R. on 23 Mar 2006 - 22:49
I just pulled it up, it all loaded within 4 seconds (I counted 3.5, so I'll give the benefit of the doubt and say 4). Useful for computers without Word on it.
#8 Rudy on 23 Mar 2006 - 22:50
the title is VERY misleading.....
#9 Foo Fighter on 23 Mar 2006 - 22:55
Nice to see Linspire hasn't lost its touch designing the ugliest graphical experience in the industry. Just look at those hideous graphics on the the ajaxWrite site. It looks even worse than their Linux desktop.
(1 reply) #10 unkle stu on 23 Mar 2006 - 23:00
3 words, P. O. S.!

it loaded very quickly, but it's not any better than wordpad. press bold, and the B button doesn't stay down. press undo, and the whole document is blanked!

these anti-microsoft groups are getting nowhere by creating inferior copies of MS products, and spending more time talking about where MS is/should/will be than working on their programs. it just reinforces the idea of 'you get what you pay for,' which in the long run helps MS.

plus, they cross out office 2007, but 2007 is going to sport a totally new interface (uh oh). they should cut their losses and just begin copying office 2007 for ajaxWrite 2.0. or better yet, get their foot in the door by offering free programs that are original and useful, instead of old and broken.
#10.1 beatlesdb on 24 Mar 2006 - 05:23
I Agree with you unkle stu ,

It seems that Michael Robertson the guy who has nothing but vial things to say about Microsoft (if you have been un-fortunate to read his Michael Minute E-mails you will know what I mean) yet tries to copy Microft in every way he can

I do find that AJAXWord is miss-leading, there was no need to bring Microsoft into this, and the program would be better named as AJAXWordpad, as claiming it is like MS Word is ridiculous. It may look a bit like Word but more like Word97 than 2007 - except that even Word97 has more features.

AJAXWord is a great example of Ajax and it will be interesting to see how far they go with it, but at this stage it's just another avenue for Michael Robinson's Microsoft bashing which is a shame.

Last edited by beatlesdb on 24 Mar 2006 - 05:29
#11 sdb815 on 23 Mar 2006 - 23:09
Works just fine here on Firefox 1.5.0.1 on a dial-up modem. It loaded pretty fast too, this is perfect for people like me that don't type many documents.
(2 replies) #12 v1sor on 23 Mar 2006 - 23:30
For those of you who remember such things...

Ajax used to be a brand of toilet cleaner in the UK. Perhaps an unfortunate brand name choice (for the UK at least)?

Anyhow - OpenOffice floats my boat - and it's installed on my machine. Why wait 90 seconds (I timed it and have an 8MB link) for it to download when I can have it running locally in no time? It doesn't even cache so that it loads quicker on the next run?!?! I realise that their site must be being hammered at the moment, but their 6 second claim is WAY off base.

It's a great idea for machines you might come to use that have no office apps on, but how much is this REALLY going to cost ALL of us in the future? I think it will cost too much...

Last edited by v1sor on 23 Mar 2006 - 23:35
#12.1 Pdj79 on 24 Mar 2006 - 01:52
Ajax is a brand of dish detergent here in the States...one of the worst to be honest.
#12.2 rbet on 24 Mar 2006 - 14:03
AJAX = Asynchronous Javascript & XML, you dolts.

Loaded in around 10 seconds... no undo problems and/or any other formatting/display problems for me. Seems to be nice.
#13 KeR on 23 Mar 2006 - 23:34
Looks promissing, but it crashed my Firefox
#14 Smigit on 23 Mar 2006 - 23:38
promising although I would never rely on it for any critical documents...which is anything since I only use Word for assignments and such. There also seems to be a bug where if you put the cursor low down in the page and hold backspace, eventually it will get to the end of a line up somewhere in the page where by it will not move the cursor to the next line to continue deleting.

Kinda cool still.
#15 cpu on 23 Mar 2006 - 23:55
wow... guys found some articles about xul, wrote the little app and now bitching MS They shoud try to release last 20%
#16 bid1 on 23 Mar 2006 - 23:58
I'd say it's a good start. Lots of glitches to work out.
#17 Nidonocu on 24 Mar 2006 - 00:02
Yeah.. claiming to some how beat Office 2007. There's a reason it will have a price tag and that's cause it will be able to do alot more stuff than this thing can. Couldn't open what was to me, a very basic 2003 document (text with wordart, graphs and some shape graphics).
#18 XerXis on 24 Mar 2006 - 00:05
for opera users (like me) this an insult, and by the way, claiming to replace office for 90% of the people is like bonaparte thinking he could get conquer russia. get real
(3 replies) #19 antaris on 24 Mar 2006 - 00:06
Why are they only targetting Firefox?
#19.1 russ0943 on 24 Mar 2006 - 00:51
because they hate ms
#19.2 rm20010 on 24 Mar 2006 - 01:21
I don't see a reason why the OTHER browsers can't take advantage of this. Firefox isn't the only AJAX browser you know.
#19.3 Mathiasdm on 24 Mar 2006 - 10:15
Because their program also requires XUL.
#20 Shiranui on 24 Mar 2006 - 00:20
OpenOffice is a better option for those who don't wish to pay for the privilege of writing a document.
#21 Word on 24 Mar 2006 - 00:27
Crashed when I saved too. Looks neat and loaded fast well under the 6 seconds. Might bookmark it but I'll stick to app based at least until they fix the saving thing.
#22 larz on 24 Mar 2006 - 00:32
Crashed my FireFox. Not too impressed.
#23 Neonemesis on 24 Mar 2006 - 00:45
i've seen a better one around here somewhere, it had the word 2003 UI and it worked really well
(1 reply) #24 Daugirdas on 24 Mar 2006 - 00:49
Looks very promising to me. It is obviously work in progress (beta) so I can expect to have a crash there and there. Most features are even greyed out.
But that can become a very very powerful replacement for... OpenOffice!

Ajax kicks ass!
#24.1 russ0943 on 24 Mar 2006 - 00:52
yea but a crash here and there is a serious thing....ah...loose a document here and there...
#25 Trioxin on 24 Mar 2006 - 00:50
Wow... craptastic.
#26 russ0943 on 24 Mar 2006 - 00:53
that website is FUGLY as hell!
#27 mitt on 24 Mar 2006 - 01:10
writely.com ?
(2 replies) #28 rm20010 on 24 Mar 2006 - 01:31
Tried this with Firefox 1.5. It looks alright. But how it mentions this:

Microsoft Office Professional 2007 - $499

AjaxWrite - $0



You have to be kidding me about 'competing' with Office 2k7 if it can't even support a customized right click menu.
#28.1 {RU}Sirius on 24 Mar 2006 - 01:36
Not to mention you have to have a certain browser in order to use it

I don't have anything against Firfox (I personally use Thunderbird for email).

When you come out with a version that works with Opera I'll give it a shot.
#28.2 rbet on 24 Mar 2006 - 14:07
I agree that it cannot compete directly with Office Pro, but do remember that a lot (I'll go on to say most) of the users of Word don't require any fancy bells and whistles other than being able to format their text in the way they desire.
(1 reply) #29 virtorio on 24 Mar 2006 - 01:39
"Robertson Launches Online Version Of MS Word"
"Bye Bye Microsoft Word, Hello ajaxWrite"


So why isn't this in the Jokes and Funny Stuff section? The very concept of comparing this thing to Microsoft Word is laughable.
#29.1 Richardo on 24 Mar 2006 - 02:25
Absolutely, it's really nothing like MS Word
#30 Alan Zeino on 24 Mar 2006 - 02:05
This is the stupidest piece of news. This is NOT the first version of Word online. There are numerous, AJAX run versions on the internet.
(1 reply) #31 Richardo on 24 Mar 2006 - 02:22
Who can Word Process these days without a spell checker???!

This is like a Rich Text OLE Control with a modern looking toolbar.
#31.1 hosebeast on 24 Mar 2006 - 08:00
The target audience doesn't need a spell checker because the only thing they ever type is "MS sucks MS sucks MS sucks" over and over and over again. And if they accidentally hit the $ key instead of S, or they spell sucks as sux, then they simply think it makes them cooler.
#32 Jaxkesa on 24 Mar 2006 - 02:25
Obviously this wont work with Opera or IE etc cos of the XUL. It's quite good and shows what can be done but I think comparing it to MS Word is a bit too optimistic.
#33 GatorV on 24 Mar 2006 - 03:06
Well it's a good idea, but seriously needs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay lot of work, for example upon "saving" (downloading to your HD) looses the formating of some parts of your document and images don't get saved to the doc as you expect.

Comparing to MS Word office is bad, there exists OpenOffice for free Word processing tool
#34 RiVaLSSJ on 24 Mar 2006 - 03:18
Nice idea, but I'll stick with OpenOffice - I'd rather an offline program, something I can install.
Says that they're working on spellcheck, which is good.
#35 DCMonkey on 24 Mar 2006 - 03:27
Hey, did anybody notice there's a "version of Word" at the bottom of this page?
#36 Webgraph on 24 Mar 2006 - 03:42
I'd give them credit with the tab idea for documents. But unfortunately, I tried opening some Word documents and it doesn't work! Probably because I use nonstandard fonts. So for now, I'll stick with Office 2004 Mac.
#37 Ghostdraconi on 24 Mar 2006 - 03:42
I can't think of a Operating System that doesn't come with a better Word Processor than this. Windows has Wordpad, Most Linux Distros carry Openoffice and I'm sure the Mac has an equivalent, not to mention the 1001 programs (like Abiword) that are quick downloads. Until this offers something beyond basic functionality I don't see this making an impact.

Also not crashing when you try to save would be helpful, it's little things like that that make or break a program .
#38 ConfusedFusion on 24 Mar 2006 - 04:24
hanged my firefox within 5 minutes of usage...needs work but gr8 stuff.
#39 xpgeek on 24 Mar 2006 - 04:28
Not bad, needs work, lots, I'll keep my Abiword for now.
(1 reply) #40 antaris on 24 Mar 2006 - 04:32
Wootage...Firefox crashes.

There is no way in hell that I would use this over Word, especially after getting in on the Office 12 beta, which has drastically improved my productivity while in programs like Word. No matter how advanced you build this AJAX application, I just cant see it producing the kinda results you would expect in Word without becoming dependant on specific features of the browser or OS, which makes it very unportable!
#40.1 HawkMan on 24 Mar 2006 - 09:58
It allready is dependant on specific FF code.
#41 Andre on 24 Mar 2006 - 04:47
Yaaah right.. last thing I need is writing some important documents on the internets not knowing what the hell is happening with them when I either save them or even while I'm writing. They could as well be making backups on their server.. who knows. And what happens if my browser or pc crashes. Will I be able to retrieve the huge ass document as Word does by constantly making backups. And if they do add a backup option, how on earth it's gonna be bulletproof from hax0rs who are after your evil .DOC plans. One stolen/leaked backup and you have a lawyer knocking on your door.

Props to them for creating this.. but in the end it is useless and most certainly unreliable. Latter because of what I already mentioned above and useless because if you do need to write something quick and simple, you use Wordpad or to that equivalent word processor of whatever OS you are using.
#42 the_dark_son on 24 Mar 2006 - 05:39
This is a major problem with web apps. The fact it can become quite a bear to run should it be accessed alot. For a quick dirty edit and Im away from my main PC or in a public kiosk, yeah this app may work businesses arent going to buy into it because of security measures and since most PC's today ship with word processing apps I dont see many home users buying into this either. Until it supports every browser and offers users choice, I wont endorse it.
(1 reply) #43 SniperX on 24 Mar 2006 - 07:01
In the same way that I detest sites which target IE-Only users, I can't stand this reverse bias either. I can't, for the life of me, imagine why they need to exclude IE to run an AJAX app.
#43.1 rm20010 on 25 Mar 2006 - 03:20
I can't also understand why they exclude every browser, minus Firefox (and maybe Seamonkey).

OK, so it uses XUL. So what? Cross platform, yes. Cross browser, nope.
#44 dj_alex_m on 24 Mar 2006 - 07:26
That is so cool!
(2 replies) #45 MMaster23 on 24 Mar 2006 - 08:07
1) This sucks ... I'm an profound IE user and refuse to use Firefox for normal browsing... requiring FF 1.5 is plain bull****.

2) MS Word does way WAY more then just typing letters. It can import dynamic data, it can print labels (with an label preset database that's huge), it can edit HTML, insert dynamic objects, attach it to coporate websites/sharepoint/databases etc etc.

You can't just remake Word. Word is a great product developed over many many years.

Word rocks, this sucks!
#45.1 Mathiasdm on 24 Mar 2006 - 10:16
Now you know how Firefox/Opera users feel when they see a site stating: "Only for IE!"
#45.2 DJROrion on 24 Mar 2006 - 16:03
Actually this website is a pile of crap so i dont know how you feel after all =)
#46 mamee on 24 Mar 2006 - 09:02
It's like the one that google bought right? writely
#47 nexus291 on 24 Mar 2006 - 09:08
don't get me wrong but insted of MS Word, even Word XP or Word 2003, this looks more like Wordpad to me. Most of the fonts i got on my PC don't even show up in it, word size only go upto 36pt. How to change the text color in it? The table sux, can't find a way to add rows & columns etc

Also it's bound to Firefox only right now, anyone tried opera with it, it depends on the internet connection to work

seriously, even openoffice is better for home use, where there is only a single user
#48 CrazyDelta on 24 Mar 2006 - 10:37
They can do with a site makeover..but the program itself gets 2 THUMBS UP from me.
Good Stuff!
#49 sp0rk on 24 Mar 2006 - 13:19
I like this one better
#50 JMann on 24 Mar 2006 - 13:48
Very clever idea, could use a nicer front website though.
#51 jivemastert on 24 Mar 2006 - 14:11
Phft, who's the noob who decided to make this work in firefox only? Gimme a break...
#52 rbet on 24 Mar 2006 - 14:22
Does anyone else think that the author of this Neowin article gives the impression of being a condescending MS whoreboy? AJAXWrite is a possibly revolutionary web-based product, and see how he treats it.

All new products have hiccups on their way to implementation and acceptance. OMG, Firefox crashed on saving?? It is a new product, probably a pioneer of its genre. So tough sh*t. Check back after a few days/a week and see if the problem still exists. Or, yeah, keep paying. BTW, I could save my doc properly without FF crashing.

I'm no fan of that Linspire dude either... I once signed up somewhere for a free copy of the Linspire OS and that dude filled my mailbox with craploads of anti-MS propaganda.

And yeah, this DOES have the potential to meet the needs of *MOST* people. Not everyone a supermondomegatexteditor with cross-app and cross-platform flexibility.
#53 P1R4T3 on 24 Mar 2006 - 14:51
Doesnt work with opera.
Insult!
#54 DJROrion on 24 Mar 2006 - 16:18
[/quote]* = Microsoft Word's auto-save feature, by the way, would have caught the document when it crashed, and saved this journalist's from having to write the story twice. We'll keep paying.[quote]

Best part
#55 temolesto on 24 Mar 2006 - 17:00
i saved a file using this ajaxwriter but Microsoft Word 2000 Pro cant open it, i can open it with Wordpad

maybe they should work a lot more on it, and give some freespace so you can have your documents in there, and use then everywhere you go
#56 mad_onion on 24 Mar 2006 - 19:10
hmm, i was expecting something a little more from this when i read the news about it, the news article made it sounds somewhat better than it actually is. very limited features.
#57 djurbino on 25 Mar 2006 - 12:33

Meh.

Far more accurate to say it's a replacement for Abiword ... but then Abiword is also a free, open-source, semi-Word compatible 'word processor' ... so why would you waste bandwidth on this thing and risk having documents float around in cyberspace somewhere when you can have at least Abiword, or at most OpenOffice, doing the same (and then some) also for free ... ?


#58 Angel Blue01 on 25 Mar 2006 - 14:38
There are other online word processors. this is useless

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