The second coming of Intel's Core Duo
Posted by Hurmoth on 08 May 2006 - 01:14 · 62 comments & 27878 views
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#1 Posted by Mike Mayer on 08 May 2006 - 01:19
- But the first coming of the core duo to me hasn't gotten to me yet!
(I just ordered a Dell E1505 with a T2500 which is due to arrive on Tuesday!
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#1.1 Posted by denzilla on 08 May 2006 - 01:33
- I bought the same laptop a few weeks ago with a T2300. My wife uses it the most, but it appears to be a nice machine
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#1.2 Posted by Mike Mayer on 08 May 2006 - 02:20
- *excitement* + *anticipation*
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#1.3 Posted by naap51stang on 08 May 2006 - 03:20
- You'll really like it....I've had one for about a month. Hope you opt'd for the higher res
screen. It's SHARP and clear. Even at the max resolution. -
#1.4 Posted by Mike Mayer on 08 May 2006 - 15:45
- 05/08/2006 8:11 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY
WOOT a day early!
I got upgraded everything except for 2gb of memory (which I can add when the time comes that its needed...)
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#2 Posted by Netrack on 08 May 2006 - 01:19
- RIP pentium VIVA LA DUO!
or is it VIIV LA DUO!
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#3 Posted by virtorio on 08 May 2006 - 01:42
- My fairly new T2300 laptop is out-of-date already. Oh well.
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#3.1 Posted by strekship on 08 May 2006 - 01:57
- lol, what did you expect? My 754 A64 was out of date the day I built it. Thats just the way things work. If only i had the money to upgrade every month.
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#4 Posted by TheGriffin on 08 May 2006 - 01:48
- Cool, I've been waiting for this. I am setting my self to buy a laptop at the time of school after summer, so this is good for me, I told my self I won't buy a laptop until I see 64-bit support in it.
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#4.1 Posted by Quick Reply on 08 May 2006 - 02:14
- Just to make clear, Core 2 has EM64T. This is the one we've been waiting for (Merom). Wish it was before August though.
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#5 Posted by eminem213486 on 08 May 2006 - 01:55
- ive been confuzzled over intels new naming scheme since the switch from ghz to number scheme.
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#6 Posted by PharosBR on 08 May 2006 - 02:15
- YAY!
Goodbye AMD, hellooooooooooooooooo Conroe.
=]
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#7 Posted by TRC on 08 May 2006 - 02:22
- What a horrible name. Core 2 Duo? Sounds like Core to Duo, like some sort of upgrade chip. Even without the Duo part, Core 2 doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. They need to fire their entire marketing department.
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#7.1 Posted by Co_Co on 08 May 2006 - 02:52
- maybe the logo is supposed to be read vertically as in 'core duo 2' because core 2 duo does sound dumb
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#7.2 Posted by mentalindustries on 08 May 2006 - 03:02
- the funny part is if you translate duo into what it means
= intel core two 2 - yep that makes lots of sense -
#7.3 Posted by PureLegend on 08 May 2006 - 06:33
- 2+2=4
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#7.4 Posted by rob.derosa on 08 May 2006 - 07:46
- of course they are not. they are just the second generation of core duo chips. is it really that hard to understand.
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#7.5 Posted by Jugalator on 08 May 2006 - 08:08
- About Core 2 not rolling off the tongue, well, I believe it does. It's just two syllables, as opposed to "Athlon X2" or whatever. Maybe you just think it doesn't because you're unused to saying it?
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#7.6 Posted by Xerxes on 08 May 2006 - 08:18
- I think it is meant tobe read "Core 2 Duo" and the single core would be "Core 2 Solo" respectively, it does make sense when you think about, the processor is called the Core 2 and the duo/solo bit at the end tells you if it's dual or single core...well I thought it made sense anyway...
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#7.7 Posted by Julius Caro on 08 May 2006 - 19:44
- Core is the name of the processor, and the logo as it is now it's perfectly clear. It maybe sounds weird when you read "Core 2 Duo", but it's meant to be like that. It's meant to be "Core 2, Duo" .. duo is some kind of "subtitle", hehe. Hard to explain in words, but it does make sense.
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#8 Posted by domgrimm on 08 May 2006 - 02:56
- Apparently the high-end desktop chip will be know as Core 2 Extreme...
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#9 Posted by McG on 08 May 2006 - 03:39
- WELL. This is cool. I'll explain...
I'm seriously looking at the Toshiba Portege M400 Tablet PC which has the Core (1) Duo. Because of the Core 2 Duo release, there will most certainly be a price cut on the M400 and all of its Core (1) Duo counterparts.
Mwahaha. I love the technology cycle.
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#10 Posted by Zhivago on 08 May 2006 - 04:11
- That's retarted, I agree. With Intel's marketing budget, I'm sure they could have come up with something better. Pentium 4, was introduced in what? year 2000 and they didn't change the name although the latest P4 pretty much doesn't resemble the original chip at all.
With Core Duo, they could have just kep the name (and I must say I loved the switched to new logo) and just upgrade numbers like they do with Pentium D: 800 series first, then 900. -
#10.1 Posted by PeterTHX on 08 May 2006 - 05:30
- Pentium 4 was still the Netburst architecture, the "Core" (Conroe) series is an all-new one.
PS: Just a suggestion: if you want to say something seems "retarded", you might want to spell it correctly. -
#10.2 Posted by bobbba on 08 May 2006 - 15:07
I think intel's whole problem with the pentium 4 is that it has not changed much at all since it was introduced. It's still the same hot and power hungry processor that does not perform well on a performance vs Ghz basis.
Conroe/Core 2 Duo is part of a new architecture reflecting intel's change from GHz everything to performance per watt. It is the first instance of Intel designing a desktop CPU based on notebook CPU design principles. I think this more than justifies a change to the new names.-
#10.3 Posted by Zhivago on 08 May 2006 - 15:17
- /point PeterTHX
/laugh
Core 2 Duo is not entirely different from Core Duo we have in production now. That was my point. Yet, they still changed the number. Learn to read, I never said Core and Pentium were based on same architecture.
Thanks for comment anyway.
/sarcasm off.
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#11 Posted by DigitalDude on 08 May 2006 - 04:14
- So wait should I wait as far as buying a laptop for this or is core duo 1 laptops fine?
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#11.1 Posted by McG on 08 May 2006 - 05:06
- Core (1) Duo chips are FINE. In some ways, it's better to buy the 1's if you're on a budget because they will be considerably cheaper as the Core 2 Duo will take predominate sale in the Duo market. The Core 2 Duo chips are going to be very nice, but the 1's are still great chips.
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#12 Posted by xpclient on 08 May 2006 - 04:25
- As if processors becoming outdated and slow faster than ever isn't enough to make a PC owner feel terrible, their "new architecture every 2 years" strategy will also make upgrades expensive.
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#13 Posted by Steven on 08 May 2006 - 05:50
- This is the stuff I'm waiting for. After all the faulters of Prescott, Smithfield, etc... Conroe has REAL Promise.
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#14 Posted by PureLegend on 08 May 2006 - 06:34
- I thought the dual core line was called Pentium D?
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#14.1 Posted by TheGriffin on 08 May 2006 - 07:42
- Nah, Intel laid the Pentium name down to rest a while ago. Even though it wasn't effective for desktops, it was already for notebooks.
In reality, most notebook manufacturers still have more Pentium 4/M notebooks available than Core "Solo" and "Duo" notebooks.
I am going to wait until Windows Vista and these Core Duo 2 processors are availabe on laptops when purchased so I won't have to worry about paying $500 for an OS, but my guess in the end i'll end up buying it thanks to Dell's extremely "Clean" install. -
#14.2 Posted by Croquant on 08 May 2006 - 07:44
- It still is. The Core Duo 2 isn't out yet.
http://www.intel.com/products/processor_nu...telet_view2.htm -
#14.3 Posted by PureLegend on 08 May 2006 - 16:08
- That link shows me that they are, in fact, called Pentium D.
But I understand it now.
So, the Pentium D is the last Pentium.
The Core Solo and Core Duo were the first of the Core line.
The Core 2 Duo will be the next.
Makes sense, instead of sticking with Pentium (Pentium T? (tri core) and Pentium Q? (quad core)) they start the Core line (Core Solo (1 core) Core Duo (2 cores) Core Trio? (3 cores) Core Quartet? (4 cores))
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#15 Posted by Gaius Baltar on 08 May 2006 - 08:21
- so eventually the Core Duo 2's will arrive in laptops?
are they the same chips used in the new Mac Book Pro's ?
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#16 Posted by Kosh on 08 May 2006 - 09:20
- Yeah sure. I am going to get my brandnew Dell Latitude D620 with a T2500 CPU. And now I get the news that it will be old in a few months?
Welcome to IT Lifecycle.
BAH.
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#17 Posted by Beastage on 08 May 2006 - 09:45
- I wonder how this will affect Apple, will Intel ship the "2" to them? or have they concieved a perfect plan to hurt Apple by keeping it with older and slow technology
As for Intel vs AMD, AMD has awaken a giant the ball is in their half now, will they be able to counter Intel again? history shows that not for at least a year -
#17.1 Posted by Neowave on 08 May 2006 - 10:27
- Doesn't Apple decide what CPUs they want to buy from Intel?
What you're saying is the same as going to the store and the guy behind the counter forcing you to buy product X.
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#18 Posted by Beastage on 08 May 2006 - 10:30
- Yes but I can only buy what the store offers to me, if Intel will choose not to offer... you see my point?
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#18.1 Posted by Neowave on 08 May 2006 - 10:36
- Quote - Beastage said @ #17.2Yes but I can only buy what the store offers to me, if Intel will choose not to offer... you see my point?
a bit conspiracy theory but hey... things happened before
Unlikely since Apple knows very well what's out there and why would Intel do something remotely like it? They don't sell computer systems of their own and Apple sells millions of Macs per year. So Intel would loose a big customer. -
#18.2 Posted by evo_spook on 08 May 2006 - 11:07
- Nope I can't see your point and even if I did it'd be a very silly point.
Intel & Apple now have a business relationship that is like any other large PC manufacturer with Intel.
In one way you could say they have a better developed relationship, Intel has created a special Mac department, Apple as a manufacturer of PC is one of the largest out there (forget the windows vs Mac, I'm comparing with HP & Dell) and finally Apple can move fastest then the PC manufacturers and showcase new Intel products that PC manufacturers cant due to tied down by Windows
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#19 Posted by fergiej on 08 May 2006 - 12:15
- Notice the high end powermac intel's are not out yet? Maybe this is just what Apple is waiting for. This would most definitely put a gap between the Imac's and Mini's and the Powermacs. Because, my new 1.66 core duo mini with 2Gb ram is quite the little performer. I am quite impressed. THe powermac's will have to be something quite special.
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#20 Posted by Galley on 08 May 2006 - 12:19
- Another stupid name from Intel. Ask nearly anyone what an "Athlon" or a "Pentium" is, and they'd probably know it was a processor, or at least had something to do with computing. Core 2 Duo... WTF?
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#20.1 Posted by PureLegend on 08 May 2006 - 16:09
- It'll grow on you
Wii!
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#21 Posted by m-head on 08 May 2006 - 12:21
- I personally like the new logo and naming system that Intel have introduced.
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#21.1 Posted by PureLegend on 08 May 2006 - 16:19
- I didn't at first, but I'm starting to
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#22 Posted by idoia on 08 May 2006 - 13:58
- I have a Pentium M 780 and I think it is already hot in terms of temperature.
How hot will be these new ones? I heard Core duos were even hotter : -
#22.1 Posted by Shaidar on 08 May 2006 - 15:05
- I think it's time to change your bookmarks, throw out those links you have, because they seem to be wrong.
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#22.2 Posted by wst50 on 08 May 2006 - 17:20
- The original Core Duo only used about 14 Watts of power apparently 0-0.
May have been 40, Intels have always used loads of power, and I doubt that they'd be cooler/ use less power than a Turion. -
#22.3 Posted by Elliott on 08 May 2006 - 18:40
- "Core Duo is the world's first low-power (less than 25 watts) Dual Core processor, with the previous low being the Opteron 260 and 860 HE at 55 watts. Core Duo was released on 5 January 2006, with the other components of the Napa platform. It is the first Intel processor to be used in Apple Macintosh products (the Apple Developer Transition Kit machines, non-production units distributed to some developers, used Pentium 4 processors)."
via this Wiki entry.
Also, according to this Wiki entry, the Turion uses 25 watts and 35 watts (depending on whether you get an MT model or an ML model).
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#23 Posted by reidtheweed01 on 09 May 2006 - 00:54
- Core Duo 2?
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#23.1 Posted by Hurmoth on 09 May 2006 - 12:36
- Core 2 Duo
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/co...MPAGE+HL_060508
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#24 Posted by Croquant on 09 May 2006 - 03:58
- I assume the Conroe chips will be packaged for LGA 775 or a LGA 775 derivitive, right?
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#25 Posted by RobertH on 09 May 2006 - 22:16
- I hate it.
They are becoming untidy again. They finally dump the numbers, no more Pentium 2/3/4 and switch names to something fresh (along with a slightly different intel chime) and now they are sticking numbers back on the end of stuff.
I can see this now... Intel "Core 2 Duo Plus Extreme Edition" and then AMD not wanting to be outdone, bring out their "Athlon X2 HardCore 2 Extreme Edition". It's getting worse than video cards, GT/PTE/XTX/GTO... why cant they just find a SIMPLE way of naming their different products in a way that people will understand.
Each one of Intel’s model numbers will be preceded by a letter that indicates how much power the chip consumes at its peak. This is the first time Intel has incorporated power consumption into its model numbers.
The end appears nigh for the Pentium brand, which has carried Intel for 13 years. Intel is expected to rapidly shift its factories to cranking out Core processors by the end of the year.
Intel announced last week plans to release Conroe and Merom chips in July and August, respectively, which is earlier than expected.