Microsoft's Windows Vista has a date with some of the world's smartest hackers. The software maker will use the spotlight of the Black Hat security conference in August to show off some of the key security features and functionality being fitted into Vista.
Microsoft's appearance on the Black Hat stage is a first on many fronts. Microsoft will be the first software vendor to present an entire Black Hat Briefing track on a pre-release product. It is also the first time a representative from Redmond Wash., will make an official presentation at the controversial hacker confab. According to Microsoft program manager Stephen Toulouse, the idea is to provide "deeply technical presentations" on Vista security to the hacking community. "We submitted several presentations to the Black Hat event organizers and, based on the technical merit and interest to the audience, they were accepted," Toulouse said
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Microsoft's appearance on the Black Hat stage is a first on many fronts. Microsoft will be the first software vendor to present an entire Black Hat Briefing track on a pre-release product. It is also the first time a representative from Redmond Wash., will make an official presentation at the controversial hacker confab. According to Microsoft program manager Stephen Toulouse, the idea is to provide "deeply technical presentations" on Vista security to the hacking community. "We submitted several presentations to the Black Hat event organizers and, based on the technical merit and interest to the audience, they were accepted," Toulouse said

Microsoft are touting Vista as the most secure OS ever (don't they claim this with every release?) and to my mind that's just an open invite to cripple all the security measure within Vista before it even launches. Which may be the intention (time to fix stuff) but I seriously doubt it.
Hackers do a good job, but not when it's malicious as is most cases when it comes to Windows, and Microsofts' frequent 'deaf-ear' syndrome when it comes to releasing patches for common vulnerabilities.
Hope they try and hack WGA first...
That's how I remember and always understood it:
Black Hat: Hacks and keep it to himself for more damage in the future.
White Hat: Hacks and let the owners know that they have a security issue.
I guess everyone (BlackHats included) will be interested to use the new Windows Vista, or at least try it (In their own fashion
I just don't see what's stopping the FBI from being all over this conference.
and i thot i was using a secure, final, dependable OS. hehe
no personal diggs at MS there, just having fun.
I expect Vista's point release will come soon after Vista (24 months max, maybe less); and will include all of the removed end-user features as well as any other neat ideas they come up with between now that then.
MS is too focused on WinFX with Vista; once that is behind them they will be able to focus on user features.
I expect Vista's point release will come soon after Vista (24 months max, maybe less); and will include all of the removed end-user features as well as any other neat ideas they come up with between now that then.
MS is too focused on WinFX with Vista; once that is behind them they will be able to focus on user features.
Found some news about WinFX in an MSDN newsletter:
"WinFX" will be shipped with vista. And its not WinFX anymore, its new name is ".NET Framework 3.0". Yep.
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With this in mind we have decided to rename WinFX to the .NET Framework 3.0. .NET Framework 3.0 aptly identifies the technology for exactly what it is – the next version of our developer framework.
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The .NET Framework 3.0 will still ship with Windows Vista, and will be available down-level for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 as planned. This change doesn’t affect in any way the ship schedules of either Windows Vista or the .NET Framework 3.0 itself.
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Source : http://blogs.msdn.com/somasegar/archive/20.../09/624300.aspx
ninjashackers defeat some inportrant security features in vista and prove thatvista is just like a swiss chese, full of holes?
Its just an assumption (I use microsoft prods. I aint no troll).
So we dont have much time before the release of rc1, and if vista proves to be that "hole-y", will microsoft be able to fix all these probems?
Anf if yes then, the release date will b pushed again.
1.Maybe microsoft is so sure about vista's security features.
2.If not, we'll get vista xmas2007.
Anyways, microsoft seems to be pretty confident about this risky move.
Somehow this brings to mind that ol' story of the "Unsinkable Ship" that smacked into an iceberg on its first time out to sea. And sank.
...what was it called again?
Of course a REAL black-hat (or real black-ninja) is also a lurker and will never show themself "hey, i'm a h4ck3r", so any visible black hat is only a script kiddie or a wannabe (or a power ranger)
Anyways a white hat is also a black hat in disguise (or a retired-black hat), you cannot learn to REAL HACK without making some "illegal" stuff, also hack is mainly for funny ^_^ and making some electronic sins is more funny that evaluating some system. A white hat is white for easy and stable money.
But many so called "white hat" are only pawns without fangs, worthy nothing. (ghey!!
There are another choice to be a security expert, to convert in a guru in network, or a guru in some specific system also being creative. "Sadly" many gurus will convert to the dark side of the force (black hat).
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