Steve Jobs Confirmed as Keynote Speaker for WWDC 2006
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#1 Posted by Toastyone on 26 Jun 2006 - 15:56
- :p was there ever any doubt that Jobs was not going to be the keynote speaker
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#1.1 Posted by Netrack on 26 Jun 2006 - 16:05
- i thought chuck norris would have been a good speaker
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#1.2 Posted by bluewind_89 on 26 Jun 2006 - 16:55
- as in awesome or overrated :p
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#1.3 Posted by reidtheweed01 on 26 Jun 2006 - 18:32
- I was expecting Bill Gates
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#1.4 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 26 Jun 2006 - 20:05
- I was thinking the same thing.
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#1.5 Posted by jedimasterk on 27 Jun 2006 - 03:26
- Mark Shuttleworth would have been better!. Great guy!. Not arrogent like Jobs or Ballmer. Quote - reidtheweed01 said @ #1.3I was expecting Bill Gates
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#2 Posted by Lasker on 26 Jun 2006 - 17:13
- $1595 per attendee??? that is super expensive... damn
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#2.1 Posted by roadwarrior on 26 Jun 2006 - 18:18
- This conference is designed for professional developers who see this as a simple business expense.
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#2.3 Posted by Cole on 26 Jun 2006 - 21:18
- You could read roadwarrior's post, because he is correct. O_o
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#2.5 Posted by betasp on 26 Jun 2006 - 22:39
- When you grow up, you will realize that conferences are expensive. The WWDC is not Steve Jobs in concert, it is a place for developers to learn new skills and strengthen their apps while at the same time forging a stronger relationship with Apple. I went to one last year that was $1k a day for 5 days. The WWDC cost is average.
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#2.6 Posted by hotdog963al on 26 Jun 2006 - 23:09
- Imagine buying a ticket, then being ill and missing it!!
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#2.7 Posted by jedimasterk on 27 Jun 2006 - 03:23
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#2.8 Posted by MrCobra on 27 Jun 2006 - 04:52
- Apple is the Scientology Center for computers. You have to pay to be enlightened.
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#2.9 Posted by Eredain on 27 Jun 2006 - 10:20
- Quote - MrCobra said @ #2.8Apple is the Scientology Center for computers. You have to pay to be enlightened.
This is stupid, you have to pay for developer or not developer conferences of all the companies, Microsoft, WMware, Appel, BEA, etc... Saying that the real profesionals see you as a fanboy kid with no idea of nothing about the real world... Grow up and then travel from the world of Oz to the real life work. -
#2.10 Posted by MrCobra on 27 Jun 2006 - 12:05
- Yeah, you sure told me. I know perfectly well that all companies charge for this. It was a dig at Apple and nothing more. If you didn't like the comment, you should not have replied to it.
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#2.11 Posted by phantasmorph on 27 Jun 2006 - 14:28
- Quote - MrCobra said @ #2.10Yeah, you sure told me. I know perfectly well that all companies charge for this. It was a dig at Apple and nothing more. If you didn't like the comment, you should not have replied to it.
Or you could just grow up and not make comments that you know will **** people off. You starved for attention? -
#2.12 Posted by MrCobra on 28 Jun 2006 - 05:36
- Quote - phantasmorph said @ #2.11Quote - MrCobra said @ #2.10Yeah, you sure told me. I know perfectly well that all companies charge for this. It was a dig at Apple and nothing more. If you didn't like the comment, you should not have replied to it.
Or you could just grow up and not make comments that you know will **** people off. You starved for attention?
Apparently as much as you are. :p
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#3 Posted by Neowave on 26 Jun 2006 - 17:18
- Can't wait for the Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard preview and betas.
How come I never see smilies in these comments? All I see is "; )", ": p" and ": nuts :" etc.
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#4 Posted by hotdog963al on 26 Jun 2006 - 17:53
- *prepares self*
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#5 Posted by chimera963 on 26 Jun 2006 - 17:56
- *also prepares self* wooooot, it just wouldn't be the same without good old Steve.
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#6 Posted by saxondale. on 26 Jun 2006 - 18:13
- he better not make us PPC users feel bad by saying 'if you are running our intel macs, you will be able to use...' and turn out to be an awesome feature which us PPC users cant use, dont see this happening, but if they want people to go to intel, it might work, although i think they are happy for people to move at their own time
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#6.1 Posted by roadwarrior on 26 Jun 2006 - 18:20
- Considering that probably 90% or more of their installed base is PPC machines, I really doubt that 10.5 will have much if anything that is limited to Intel machines (other than Boot Camp, which we already know will be a feature of the OS). Now, by the time 10.6 comes around in a couple of years, they might start dropping off support for the older machines.
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#6.2 Posted by teejaydm on 26 Jun 2006 - 18:34
- Well they are thinking of integrating boot camp into Leopard. Boot camp is intel only.
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#7 Posted by sub999 on 26 Jun 2006 - 21:00
- may be there will be new ipod
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#8 Posted by gnubugu on 26 Jun 2006 - 21:03
- Of course 10.5 will have some options PPC will not have, it is by design or nature of the beast so to speak. It is an Intel based computer future and shared PC/Mac is not just expected, it is a going to be the rule. They are not going to cut off PPC users, they just will not having access to future software technology as it pertains to PC/MACS. The core OS and the features not dependant on x86 processes will always function for PPC, the rest will for force you step forward and get a new Intel based Mac. Remember that this transition to Intel was to take until 2007- 2008 to transition, this has been accellerated to the point that its 2006 and 95% of all products are already Intel based. So if you have a PPC mac (yes, even I do, but already made my transition to intel based Apple) you better be planning on moving over if you want to use the features that are coming. The PPC platform is over in terms of Apple as company, they never said they will be supporting the PPC platform in the future, they said that the os will still be made available for the PPC until its transition is complete., and things are progressing at rapid andavanced rate to its new platform, the 64-Bit Intel based Apple.
Os 9 is not supported by apple anymore, it is a dead platform which they even gave it a funeral. Expect the same for PPC OS X.
This is like complaing that Microsoft Windows Vista wont run on your 386 25mhz or asking why you cant install Quake 4 on your 486 DX100 Acer you have as a door stop for your closet. -
#8.1 Posted by bobbba on 26 Jun 2006 - 21:33
- I think you paint too negative a picture. I would expect nearly all of 10.5's features to be available for PPC.
Complaining about the end of PPC support is nothing like your example. Vista and the 386 15 years+, same for Quake4 and the 486 while the Mac PPC and Intel platforms have been available at the same time. -
#8.2 Posted by roadwarrior on 27 Jun 2006 - 00:11
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Complaining about the end of PPC support is nothing like your example. Vista and the 386 15 years+, same for Quake4 and the 486 while the Mac PPC and Intel platforms have been available at the same time.
Exactly. A more accurate comparison would be to the 68K to PPC transition. Apple was releasing OS updates for 68K machines for 4 years after the first PowerPC machines shipped (PowerMac 6100 shipped in March 1994, MacOS 8.1 shipped in January of 1998, and was the last version to work on 68K machines). I would expect that Apple would do something similar for this transition.
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#9 Posted by gnubugu on 26 Jun 2006 - 22:14
- Actually, I am making a valid point, the point is end of life architectures, I.E the point in which the architectures is not longer supported or created. This has nothing to do with time (as in your 15 years etc., when time has nothing to do with my comments, hence my talking about OS 9, OS X in terms of killing support for OS 9 when the transition to PPC from Motorola 68000 series)
So the point is, they are creating their OS for the future, which is Intel based not PPC based and features will be there which take advantage of the Intel Based systems, and sorry, but PPC will not be invited to the party the same way
the Motorola 68000 was not invited to the party. Sorry, but this is expected and will be the future. Like I mentioned before, the core OS will function(but not all CPU specific features) for as long as PPC disks are made available to public. After that, it goes the way of Motorola 68000. They will build emulation for as long as possible, but the PPC apple is going away, nothing can be done about it, and plan to get an Intel based system when your time/money allows, or think about changing to an PPC based linux system for your box. -
#9.1 Posted by roadwarrior on 27 Jun 2006 - 00:17
- You are forgetting one thing though: Universal apps don't require emulation to run on both platforms, and are much easier to create than "fat binaries" were back during the 68K to PPC transition. Even then, Apple supported the old platform for another 4 years, so there is no reason they wouldn't do the same this time around as well. They are encouraging their developers to support both platforms for the foreseeable future.
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#10 Posted by Stunna on 26 Jun 2006 - 23:23
- I'm pretty curious to see what they will bring
maybe they will fix the finder or add directX support
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#11 Posted by phantasmorph on 27 Jun 2006 - 00:12
- It's so weird to be wondering about new features being added to an OS, instead of discussing features that have been dropped...
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#12 Posted by oddity on 27 Jun 2006 - 00:58
- I'd laugh if they had a "glass" theme.
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#13 Posted by gnubugu on 27 Jun 2006 - 01:08
- directX support?
That is a microsoft os specific programming API, not apples os. Virtualization may allow directx under its windows calls, but this really has nothing to do with OSX. That would be up to microsoft to make its directx more compliant with common virtualization.(yeah, like thats going to happen)
roadwarrior : Its already been over a year, so that puts PPC in line with the late 2007-2008 timeframe.
phantasmorph :
"It's so weird to be wondering about new features being added to an OS, instead of discussing features that have been dropped..." - Nothing has been dropped, nothing much has been announced on planned features. Maybe you are confused and think this is a Microsoft thread on Vista...(could not help that one, too easy, like shooting fish in a barrel) -
#13.1 Posted by roadwarrior on 27 Jun 2006 - 01:40
- It's been a year since they announced the transition, but they have only been selling machines for 6 months. Even if they release Leopard at the end of this year, it will only be a year since the first Intel Macs shipped. If, like last time, they support the previous architecture for 4 years after the new one is released, that still leaves 3 years after Leopard is released that they will be supporting PowerPC machines, which would allow for even 10.6 to support them.
By the way, why do you keep starting new threads instead of replying to the original one? It's rather annoying.
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#14 Posted by Matt T on 27 Jun 2006 - 01:18
- I really hope iMac's with Core 2 Duo processors are announced/released at WWDC - I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
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#15 Posted by gnubugu on 27 Jun 2006 - 03:38
- I guess it's to annoy people people whom it bothers so much.
6 Months and 95% of all macs are intel based. Hmmmm....
4 years in yesterday terms would equal 8 years in todays development time. That would put things in line to 2008 at a endpoint of technology/phase out period. Put things in perspective, an Imac 266 will function at basic levels with current OS offerings, this is what is going to happen in terms of OS X 10.6. It will function at a basic level, as I said many times, all the new cpu/platform features that they will be taking advantage of will not be backported to PPC they ca not be back ported in a universal binary at this level. Sorry, they may open possibly, but they will not be designed for PPC in terms of speed and performance.It may function somewhat but it seems people forget that they do not look back, they look forward. Case in point. The Mac Mini was not supported for OS X Tiger's features, less then 6 months down the road. It ran, but it was not using everything it could have used. This is going to be a big problem for PPC users down the road. This is the way it has always been.
Will you have an OS X for PPC? YES, for the time being...
Will it function with all the new features? NO, it is going to either ignore the hardware, or run badly.
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#15.1 Posted by virtorio on 27 Jun 2006 - 04:58
- Here is another fact of life, customers don't move nearly as quickly as technology and software companies (Apple included) don't want to exclude a huge number of potential clients. PPC Mac's (PowerMac) are still for sale, and they've only been selling Intel Mac's for about 6 months, if you think Apple is going to abandon the PPC architecture soon you're dreaming.
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#15.2 Posted by roadwarrior on 27 Jun 2006 - 10:47
- Quote -an Imac 266 will function at basic levels with current OS offerings, this is what is going to happen in terms of OS X 10.6.
I take it you have never used an early G3 or G4 based Mac with a recent version of OS X. If you had, you would know that the only thing holding the early machine back from taking advantage of all of the OS's features is the video card, not the processor. The same goes for the Mac Mini that you mentioned. There is nothing you can do on the newest Intel based Mac that you can't do on the very first G4 (assuming that you upgrade the video card to one that supports Quartz Extreme and Core Image), other than the afore mentioned Boot Camp, although the G4 would be much slower. In fact, there is at least one thing you can run on that G4 that you can't run on the Intel Mac - Virtual PC (although the Intel Mac has Parallels).
I'm not saying that there won't ever be features or software that will require Intel based Macs, but it won't be happening in large numbers for the next couple of years. The fact remains that the vast majority of Apple's installed base is using PowerPC based machines, and that isn't going to change for a while. Apple is still shipping four machines with PowerPC processors : PowerMac G5, XServe, eMac, and iBook (although the last two are only available now in the Educational market).
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#16 Posted by Windam on 27 Jun 2006 - 05:20
- let the magic begin.
There is something dANGerously gorgeous that's commin out of leopard I can feel in it in my bones.
btw the plan is to make like parrels flip through OS and run Vista which is why even the intel GMA950 will support vista special effects aero glass.
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#16.1 Posted by Danrarbc641 on 27 Jun 2006 - 06:06
- Although MS doesn't recommend things like the GMA chip for Vista.
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#17 Posted by a_witko on 27 Jun 2006 - 07:39
- okok... osx 10.5 leapord, ipod nando (with inbuilt periperi dispenser)... every time theres something... i used to count the days to these events... i now find that i probably wont be able to afford whatever they release, or justify replacing a similar item i already have.
ill stick to my 3g ipod... touch sensitive through and through. cannot be defeated.
This year, Jobs will be joined by Phil Schiller, senior vice president of worldwide product marketing; Bertrand Serlet, senior vice president of software engineering; and Scott Forstall, vice president of platform experience.
The five-day event, which runs from August 7 to August 11, will deliver more than 175 technical sessions and labs with new content designed to serve a wide range of Mac developers, including tracks that preview Leopard and dozens of hands-on labs providing opportunities to work developer-to-developer with Apple engineers.
Other activities at Apple's WWDC 2006 will include: presentation sessions led by engineers and experts; hands-on sessions; technology specific labs and special events and activities including the opening night's Apple Developer Connection Reception, Apple Design Awards, Stump the Experts and Late Night Labs.
WWDC 2006 attendance costs $1,595 per attendee, with a $300 Early Registration Discount that has been extended through July 7.