Intel isn't happy with ATi
Posted by Tom Warren on 26 July 2006 - 22:48 · 35 comments & 13850 views
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#1 Posted by simon360 on 26 Jul 2006 - 22:53
- grabs camoflauge, helmet, and gun
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#2 Posted by AdamLC on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:00
- Sparks are flying
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#3 Posted by WinMacLin on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:03
- Just shows how much Intel care about the consumer. Bad Intel Bad!
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#3.1 Posted by LTD on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:40
- That's why Intel has produced the top-performing 32-bit architecture to date, the Core Duo, and the next-gen archtiecture of Conroe. That's right, Intel hates the consumer. I hope this bit of sarcasm isn't lost on you.
Intel has every right to reconfigure their products. Business is war. Why should Intel give any quarter to the competition? What Intel did is normal and expected. -
#3.2 Posted by Jugalator on 27 Jul 2006 - 01:00
- "Just shows how much Intel care about the consumer."
So supporting alternative graphics cards like nVidia is not caring about the consumer? wtf.. And even if they'd go for a homebrewn solution with an Intel graphics card, it wouldn't be much about the consumer as it's just a matter of what they'll use for a demo machine on stage.
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#4 Posted by gwai lo on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:05
- We all remember who's blog we're reading, right?
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#4.1 Posted by Xavien on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:29
- well he did say that Dell would put AMD CPUs in their PC's
and that turned out to be true.
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#5 Posted by stifler6478 on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:10
- Really? Intel's not happy that ATI merged into it's rival company? Go figure.
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#5.1 Posted by tiagosilva29 on 27 Jul 2006 - 00:36
Captain obvious, please save the world!
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#6 Posted by L3thal on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:13
- Let the partnership between nVidia and Intel commence!
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#6.1 Posted by Ice Brewed Beer on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:18
- Doubt it. I don't see what Intel would gain to buy out Nvidia. Where as AMD had everything to gain by buying ATi for it's chipset division.
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#6.2 Posted by Solecs on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:31
- Well, he did say partnership. That doesn't necessarily mean that Intel would buy nVidia, just that they'd work closer together. That's what I think anyway.
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#6.3 Posted by hotdog963al on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:56
- Amen.
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#6.4 Posted by Netrack on 27 Jul 2006 - 00:14
- I think alot of people forget that Intel is the worlds leading supplier of gfx solutions....there is no need for them to aquire nvidia
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#7 Posted by McG on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:21
- ^Yes, Lethal. That would, undoubtably, make me switch to Intel. For good.
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#8 Posted by Nose Nuggets on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:23
- Intel already sells more graphics chips then ATI or Nvidia. the only way intel would benafit merging with nvidia is grabbing the gamer nitch market. but why would nvidia want to merge with intel?
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#9 Posted by redkahn on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:29
- Such a win win for us consumers, IMO. More competition only creates better products and prices for us.
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#9.1 Posted by Dolby on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:36
- I don’t understand, how is one company buying another company and merging them together a win for the consumer? This has the potential to turn into something very bad for the consumer (maybe ATI will only work with AMD in the future?) that only time will tell. The only good thing I can think that “could” come from this is that it may open a hole for another company enter the competitive market of high end GPU’s.
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#9.2 Posted by Darkinspiration on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:59
- Quote - Dolby said @ #9.1The only good thing I can think that “could” come from this is that it may open a hole for another company enter the competitive market of high end GPU’s.
no, it's more likely that the tandem amd and ati could rival intel on the cheap computer with integrated graphic niche.... or more like market...
I would like to see a viable alternative to intelExtreemsuckiness.....
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#10 Posted by majortom1981 on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:34
- Unless Intel has some new grpahics tech under their sleeves. This might make them announce it sooner.
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#11 Posted by Beastage on 26 Jul 2006 - 23:39
- Not surprised
We may not know all the facts but we do know that Intel worked with ATi developing crossfire chipsets and now that ATi merged with AMD its a bit like giving technology and secrets to AMD
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#12 Posted by Shibby on 27 Jul 2006 - 00:07
- But does this mean will we see a motherboard company produce more AMD boards with ATI chips?
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#13 Posted by jerry on 27 Jul 2006 - 00:09
- Quote -This also backs up conflicting reports about Intel severing contracts with ATi. Let the fight begin.
There are no conflicting reports. Rumors? Yes. And they have been proved to be false, see ATI's news flash.
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#14 Posted by madnuke on 27 Jul 2006 - 00:52
- I would be anoyed its like your friend becoming mates with your best enemy.
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#15 Posted by jwjw1 on 27 Jul 2006 - 00:56
- actually all this 'merging' and 'buyouts' will eventually ruin the computer industry....
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#16 Posted by jpcahn on 27 Jul 2006 - 01:51
- Intel has already been talking about putting the graphics and the cpu on the same chip. If they do that and make it fast where does that leave ATI? That's right screwed!! Intel has no right to be upset about this when they are pretty much manuevering to put ATI out of business. Now if they try to pull that off at least ATI can put there graphics on the AMD chips. If you don't think Intel can do it then think about how quickly they were able to turn around and dominate on processor performance.
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#16.1 Posted by Smigit on 27 Jul 2006 - 02:26
- "If you don't think Intel can do it then think about how quickly they were able to turn around and dominate on processor performance."
It took them years to get back to where they are now actually. Ever since the original Athlon AMD has more or less been consistantly in the lead. In terms of sales Intel has done fine but performance wise their being number 1 has been a long time comming.
I have no doubt they could pull of a great graphics cpu/gpu combo but it wont happen over night and it will be years of R&d to make it happen and it probably started some time ago. AMD with ATI now though are in a good position to release a solution of their own.
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#17 Posted by Leo Natan on 27 Jul 2006 - 02:07
- Uhm, offtopic from the rest of the comments, but add a " ) " in the end of the first sentence.
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#18 Posted by Slugbait on 27 Jul 2006 - 06:26
- OK, let's calm down...remember way back in the horse-n-buggy daze, when MS built OS/2 on consignment, then turned around and released NT, much to the chagrin of IBM? And then Big Blue partnered with Apple, and rail-gunned MS? And then BillG said hopefully MS would have a working relationship with IBM again in about 18 months?
Hmmm...how come Gates said 18 months? Why didn't he just say two or three years, or a couple of years?
And whatever did happen to that groundbreaking Mac OS that was being developed at the time? And why was it that OS was but a distant memory after that 18 months expired, Steve Jobs got un-fired, and Apple broke their cozy relationship with IBM?
The computer industry goes in cycles.
And so, too, the industry wars.
Do not write too much into this. It is probably a book you haven't yet read.
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#19 Posted by iconboy on 27 Jul 2006 - 15:41
- i dont care what you guys think, this to me is super petty on intel's part. so now instead of crossfire cards and proper drivers in their configurations, they are gunna stick nvidia cards and half assed drivers? this is stupid, and the only people that will pay are consumers. What they should have done is show everyone that they are above all this. Keep things the same and then later , quietly push ati out of their systems completley. Look im not saying for intel to roll over or that they have no right to not put ati products in their systems, its just they way they went about doing it was pretty petty and childish
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#20 Posted by RAID 0 on 27 Jul 2006 - 18:28
- Let's see what happens in the next few months. If AMD can make ATI better, then I'm all for it. With my experience, I've had less problems with Nvidia cards and chipsets...too bad AMD didn't pick Nvidia. Over the next few years we're going to see a great leap forward in hardware technology. YAY! (Hopefully the software will be right behind it)
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#21 Posted by ShiZZa on 27 Jul 2006 - 19:48
- Just watch Nvidia will be working with Google.
On Rahul's blog he mentions
"So, there’s an upcoming launch event for Conroe as many of you know. We’re very excited to launch our Conroe systems at the event – and we were supposed to have a system on stage with ATi. Apparently this isn’t happening anymore – ATi has been removed from the event and I suspect that Intel is changing the configurations of all the machines based on the feedback I’ve been hearing. I don’t understand the reasoning behind this - because we all know that ATi Crossfire works on the 975 chipset and there’s no doubt in my mind that we will sell a ton of Crossfire configurations with Intel Core 2 Duo. ATi will continue to make chipsets for Conroe configurations (at least for the current generation) so it’s too bad it had to end like this."
This is an early indicator that already Intel is, understandably, not happy that ATi chose to merge with AMD. This also backs up conflicting reports about Intel severing contracts with ATi. Let the fight begin.