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Apple: Long hours at China iPod plant

Hurmoth   on 18 August 2006 - 13:12 · 14 comments & 8038 views

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Apple Computer said on Friday that its main supplier of iPod musicplayers let employees in a China plant work longer hours than allowedby Apple's code of conduct, and that it had taken steps to address theissue.

Apple had launched an investigation after international media reports on work practices at the supplier Foxconn, a unit of Taiwan's Hon Hai Precision Industry.

In a statement, Apple said its code been violated in some cases, but insisted the overtime was voluntary. "We found no instance of forced overtime," Apple said. "We, however,found that employees worked longer hours than permitted by our code ofconduct."

Hon Hai spokesman Edmund Ding told Reuters in Taipei that the Applestatement gave "a very detailed explanation of the situation" and was"fair." He added that the company "has not violated any laborstandards."

News source: CNET News.com

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#1 Julius Caro on 18 Aug 2006 - 13:54
This is what I read too
http://www.elmundo.es/navegante/2006/08/18...1155895385.html

It says that apple admits that people work long hours (more than 60 hours a week), that they often suprass the 6 work days a week too, and that the workers earn the minium salary.

(2 replies) #2 Sacha on 18 Aug 2006 - 13:57
Worker: You pay peanut me. I need more money support family.
Supplier: Yeah, sure, just work another 5 hours a day and you'll have heaps of money.
Worker: But I life too. Can't work all day.
Supplier: Meh, it's your choice mate, no one is forcing you to work overtime.
Worker: I not enough to eat or send child to school.
Supplier: That's a shame *cough*overtime*cough* it really is.

Apple: Hey they say you are overworking your employees. Most of your workers are working longer hours than permitted in our CoC.
Supplier: Oh, they chose to. We're not forcing anyone to work overtime. Some people just like working so much, you know.
Apple: Alrighty then. That'll work. We were getting some bad media over it before.
#2.1 betasp on 18 Aug 2006 - 14:08
Funny, the company I work for is the same way. If you don't like it, find another job.
#2.2 aristofeles on 18 Aug 2006 - 15:50
Quote - betasp said @ #2.1
Funny, the company I work for is the same way. If you don't like it, find another job.


I don't think you live in China...
#3 dw2003 on 18 Aug 2006 - 13:58
"... ofconduct."
Space ^
#4 steviec82 on 18 Aug 2006 - 15:04
i find this type of attitude of apples deeply disturbing. working 60 hours a week and that seems fine to them! i know if my boss said "steve i want you to work 60 hours a week" even with extra money i'd tell her to go f**k herself. blimey the only reason i can sometimes think of why i work is so that i have some money to enjoy my personal life. also imagine the unions response if this factory was in western europe or america etc... strikes all round i would imagine! its not right it really isn't. anyway im off to listen to my new ipod.
#5 Cy Bones on 18 Aug 2006 - 15:41
How many hours does the Apple code of conduct state as a maximum working week?
#6 warr on 18 Aug 2006 - 15:46
Just tell me in which plants in China the workers are NOT overworked!
It is the age of the great labor exploitation, something that had happened centuries ago when western countries
started capitalism. Now China is embracing it, and sure it is gonna happen.
You can kill that Apple plant, but can you kill all plants in China?

Adam Smith was the wise man. It is cruel, but it is inevitable. Afterall, who really cares? Not even the Chinese government is doing anything.

Welcome to the age of the great economic expansion.
(1 reply) #7 Leo Natan on 18 Aug 2006 - 15:55
musicplayers allowedby theissue Applestatement laborstandards

Many spelling mistakes. Perhaps the keyboars is at fault, perhaps not...
#7.1 roadwarrior on 18 Aug 2006 - 19:17
It is a known problem with the software that Neowin uses to do the news posts. It randomly strips spaces.
(1 reply) #8 denzilla on 18 Aug 2006 - 15:56
Seems like all Chinese/Indian manufacturers do this. Stop giving them the business if they can't treat their workers right!
#8.1 Daffy_Duck on 18 Aug 2006 - 19:36
Then what are those workers supposed to do? Go back to the farm? I'm sure they will only have to work 35 hours a week then and will live a prosperous life. Give me a break.

I've been to China, unlike the majority here passing judgement. Most people at the same status level of factory workers but are doing other jobs are working 7 days a week, have poorer living conditions (no running water, electricity, etc), and make less money. Like it or not, the factories in China have raised the living standards for millions of Chinese. It's completely false to think that taking away the "sweatshops" and moving production elsewhere will help Chinese people.

Minimum wage at Foxconn appears to be $60/month. This is all spending money because room and board is taken care of. It sounds like a tiny amount but you have to realize that most things cost only about 1/8th of what they do here. $60 is more like $480 when buying food, clothes, and other necessities. That's $480 on top of the included boarding.

When we were in China recently, my wife bought a Chinese dress for $5 and it would have been at least $40 in the US. We had an excellent meal at one of the nicest hotels in the city (Dalian) that would feed 3 people for less a steak dinner at Applebees. A typical lunch in China would cost about $.25. That's 2 yuan. A bowl of rice and some vegetables for breakfast would be 1 yuan or about 13 cents. Dinner, maybe 50 cents. All told, we are talking less than a dollar for food per day. That leaves about $30 per month for a factory worker to save or spend on entertainment or whatever.
#9 denzilla on 19 Aug 2006 - 18:45
So when do they have time to spend it?
#10 C_Guy on 23 Aug 2006 - 19:39
And what is Steve's maximum hours per week under the CoC? 10? 12? Certainly not 60.

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