Free Music from Universal via new SpiralFrog Service
Posted by The Dark Wanderer on 30 August 2006 - 07:03 · 38 comments & 10249 views
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#1 Posted by Sheppard on 30 Aug 2006 - 07:04
- Whats the catch?
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#1.2 Posted by Bamsebjørn on 30 Aug 2006 - 07:13
- Probably DRM... :no:
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#1.3 Posted by Jugalator on 30 Aug 2006 - 07:31
- That's the catch even with non-free music though. :-p
So if it's only that I guess it's an improvement...
Then the difference with pirated music would only be that you just can't use this music properly, but you can with pirated. :-p -
#1.4 Posted by crimsonhead on 30 Aug 2006 - 07:55
- "Digital rights management technology is built-in to all audio and video content as part of measures the company and its partners are actively taking to address piracy. "We want to provide the best environment for everyone - our partners and the recording artists, as well as consumers"
Of course... Consumers just love DRM!
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#2 Posted by Abnil on 30 Aug 2006 - 08:08
- I'll wait till the DRM is cracked :p
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#3 Posted by MiG- on 30 Aug 2006 - 08:47
- This was on BBC news last night, and the service is pretty good, but i dont know how good it will turn out.. THE MUSIC will contain DRM,
, AND THE SERVICE WILL NOT SUPPORT THE IPOD... well thats what the news reported said, he focused catagorically that the music downloaded will NOT work on an IPOD, and this service is made to rival the allmighty itunes..
I hope what they say is correct, but then again it wont get many downloads if it only supports MP3 Players other the Ipod, and i wanna know what format this is in, im guessing it will be WMA-128 with DRM, which means i'll have 2 convert all music to CD, and then RIP it again so my Sony MP3 player can play it..
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#3.1 Posted by krimewavery on 30 Aug 2006 - 09:09
- Apparently the music won't be burnable to a CD. Source
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#4 Posted by PureLegend on 30 Aug 2006 - 08:50
- Wow. I will definetly use this.
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#5 Posted by bebePSC on 30 Aug 2006 - 09:21
- i smell new rootkit
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#6 Posted by gaurav on 30 Aug 2006 - 09:48
- At least its one good effort by the music industry...
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#7 Posted by simsie on 30 Aug 2006 - 09:52
- Although it is a good idea the problem is that with the "i won't get caught" mentality people will download a cd transferrable, ipod compatible, unrestricted illegal copy rather than use the legal alternative.
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#8 Posted by Foub on 30 Aug 2006 - 10:00
- If you can hear it you can record it. Copy protection is useless.
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#8.1 Posted by Samboini on 30 Aug 2006 - 10:06
- Quote - Foub said @ #8If you can hear it you can record it. Copy protection is useless.
Yep but you need the know how; a lot of the public do not have this. -
#8.2 Posted by crimsonhead on 30 Aug 2006 - 10:07
- And you'll probaly lose quality and a lot of time lol
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#8.3 Posted by Fanon on 30 Aug 2006 - 13:28
- I've been using this method with iTunes since they changed how they stored the keys. The loss in quality is debatable. The "What You Hear" feature on some sound cards work just fine. Time consuming... yes, but it's not bad enough to keep me from doing it.
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#8.4 Posted by Foub on 30 Aug 2006 - 14:29
- Quote - Samboini said @ #8.1Yep but you need the know how; a lot of the public do not have this.
People have been "dubbing tapes" for decades. Its not that difficult. Though, that is the reason why they also have activation and WGA as well, but that to has done nothing to stop real pirates. Like they say, most locks are only meant to keep out honest people. Or in other words like sticking a banana in one's ear to keep tigers away.
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#9 Posted by Jolidog on 30 Aug 2006 - 10:11
- I can see it now...
They are probably thinking in putting ads in the begining of each track... like tv sites put ads before trailers and so on...
[UNIVERSAL marketing mode]
I got'it! Ads on the track! Just like radio!! And we give it for free!!
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#9.1 Posted by stgeorge on 30 Aug 2006 - 12:04
- Quote - Jolidog said @ #9I can see it now...
They are probably thinking in putting ads in the begining of each track... like tv sites put ads before trailers and so on...
[UNIVERSAL marketing mode]
I got'it! Ads on the track! Just like radio!! And we give it for free!!
[/UNIVERSAL marketing mode]
You nailed it on the head, that's exactly what they are doing. And it will be radio-style which means that the ad will blend into the beginning of the song (like when DJ's talk over a song until they "hit the post"
. But hey, it's what the consumer's "want".
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#10 Posted by padmedala9 on 30 Aug 2006 - 11:03
- Is someone's spell/grammar check broken?
"From December Universal are launching a website offering there music catalogue for free download." -
#10.1 Posted by wicker_man on 30 Aug 2006 - 12:33
- Quote - padmedala9 said @ #10Is someone's spell/grammar check broken?
"From December Universal are launching a website offering there music catalogue for free download."
This whole site is like that, nothing new here...damn unprofessional journalists!
OT, I can tell straight away this thing is going to SUCK in either case simply because music industry is behind it. Those money-in-their-throat-gobbling pansies will do everything to "protect their rights" and the consumer might as well go to hell.
<universal mktg id="after people have found out what poop the service really is">
Duh! You wanted free music - there you are, you get what you pay for! HAHAHA!
</universal mktg>
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#11 Posted by DomG on 30 Aug 2006 - 11:42
- Hm, not working on iPods is going to be a huge drawback.
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#12 Posted by StarSabers on 30 Aug 2006 - 12:00
- I doubt they'll have the music I listen to ... but if they do, I'll most definately try it out.
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#13 Posted by bangbang023 on 30 Aug 2006 - 12:49
- I don't know how people can bash this. It's free legal music. How can it be a bad thing? Sure it has DRM and such, but it's a step, no?
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#13.2 Posted by Phrosty23 on 30 Aug 2006 - 13:20
- Yes but what's the point if you can't burn it or transfer it to iPod? Does that mean I have to carry my laptop around my back with headphones snapped in so I can listen to the songs 2 hours at a time until I need to recharge?
Great that it's free, but it appears right now to be rendered nearly useless. -
#13.3 Posted by noroom on 30 Aug 2006 - 13:25
- Plus, ads IN THE SONG? Please tell me that's not true.
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#13.4 Posted by sentio on 30 Aug 2006 - 13:36
- Quote - Phrosty23 said @ #13.2Yes but what's the point if you can't burn it or transfer it to iPod?
Right, because you wouldn't be able to hear the music otherwise. Those who lack portable devices or recordable media will not benefit from this at all.Quote -Does that mean I have to carry my laptop around my back with headphones snapped in
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#13.5 Posted by bangbang023 on 30 Aug 2006 - 13:57
- Quote - noroom said @ #13.3Plus, ads IN THE SONG? Please tell me that's not true.
It says in the article itself "The free music will be paid for by advertising on the site." -
#13.6 Posted by wicker_man on 30 Aug 2006 - 14:09
- Quote - bangbang023 said @ #13.5Quote - noroom said @ #13.3Plus, ads IN THE SONG? Please tell me that's not true.
It says in the article itself "The free music will be paid for by advertising on the site."
What kind of profits for themselves are they talking about? In many cases ads can barely pay for night traffic that this type of website might expect.
However it is, I know there MUST be something for them in it big time, otherwise they just wouldn't bother.
The news is a worn-out marketing trick sole purpose of which is to generate buzz around the idea that is supposed to be realised in...4 months! That's A LOT of time, more than ever needed to code the system and lauch it (bearing in mind it is already on the paper).
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#14 Posted by sheer on 30 Aug 2006 - 15:36
- If it gets popular I see death by bandwidth costs.
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#15 Posted by darkhooda on 30 Aug 2006 - 17:41
- I would expect their strategy to be:
1. Offer viable, self-controlled no-catch competitor to piracy: medium-quality, free
2. Piracy becomes less popular
3. They now control market with a moderate, understandable cost
4. This is also a promotion channel for music, thus enabling them to make more sales to account for cost
The main purpose is to essentially "bankrupt" piracy by offering a service pirates cannot EVER compete with in theory.
