Visiontek Plugs Radeon X1300 into PCI Slot
Posted by Daniel Fleshbourne on 04 September 2006 - 18:58 · 33 comments & 12164 views
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#1 Posted by denzilla on 04 Sep 2006 - 19:04
- What a slow turd this must be
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#2 Posted by TheGriffin on 04 Sep 2006 - 19:06
- Wow people are moving from AGP to PCI-E and these guys expect people to go for PCI
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#2.1 Posted by Yuxi Jr on 04 Sep 2006 - 19:07
- Some people don't feel like upgrading their 6 year old computers...
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#2.2 Posted by DaveXT on 05 Sep 2006 - 02:29
- Quote - Yuxi Jr said @ #2.1Some people don't feel like upgrading their 6 year old computers...
Then why would they be buying a new graphics card for... AGH!!!!
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#2.3 Posted by virtorio on 05 Sep 2006 - 06:52
- Yes, I'm sure the company decided to put out such a card without doing some market research first.
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#2.4 Posted by Unplugged on 05 Sep 2006 - 09:13
- Most of the Office PCs are Dell.
Were at the stage now where a lot need multiple monitor support but dell being cheap b***** employ the logic that "If you dont order a system with a graphics card your never going to want one" and as a result all the systems have kak PCI slots.
And there are plenty other people out there in the same boat. Yes its not going to allow you to play Doom 3 but at least it will allow decent video perfroamce on both screens.
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#3 Posted by Mathiasdm on 04 Sep 2006 - 19:09
- I have an Acer 5002 with an integrated graphics card.
How do I found it if I have a PCI slot? I can't seem to find anything about it.
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#4 Posted by Section 31 on 04 Sep 2006 - 19:10
- Many schools still use computers with PCI slots. This could be a good thing for students.
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#5 Posted by Magallanes on 04 Sep 2006 - 21:11
The ideology of optimization of 3d graphics is focused in limit the bandwith usage, mainly using the vram instead of the system ram. So a optimized game use mainly vram, and vram don't care about pci , agp or pci-e, vram run "locally" inside the graphics card.
In this case a pci with 256mb of vram can run (in many cases) more fast that a pci-e with 128mb vram.
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#6 Posted by Kushan on 04 Sep 2006 - 21:22
- Some people don't get the purpose of this at all.
I know plenty of people who can't afford to upgrade to PCI-E because more often than not, that would require a new botherboard, which in turn requires a new CPU, which in turn requires new RAM and also needs a new graphics card as well. There is definitely a market for this. -
#6.1 Posted by phantasmorph on 04 Sep 2006 - 22:21
- Thats because the vast majority of this site probably still purchase their computer hardware by saving up their allowance.
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#7 Posted by Croquant on 04 Sep 2006 - 21:49
- People are stupid. For a few bucks more they could get a system that has a motherboard equipped with a PCIe bus. Do they do it? No. They save twenty bucks by buying a POS-box, and then later they take it hard in the wallet when they realize their on-board graphics chip is a POS.
Poor suckers.
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#7.1 Posted by Xerxes on 05 Sep 2006 - 02:11
- That is the problem with businesses, they only see the $ value. They would rather go for the cheapest option then the better one. Many of them don't understand that spending abit more in the short term saves them money in the long term. Instead they buy the cheapest one they can get and it constantly breaks down and costs a heap to fix..where I work they think like this, it's sad by true.
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#7.2 Posted by angrybrit on 05 Sep 2006 - 03:02
- Quote - Xerxes said @ #7.1That is the problem with businesses, they only see the $ value. They would rather go for the cheapest option then the better one. Many of them don't understand that spending abit more in the short term saves them money in the long term. Instead they buy the cheapest one they can get and it constantly breaks down and costs a heap to fix..where I work they think like this, it's sad by true.
Who will go out and buy it? Who's gonna reinstall the software on it? Who's gonna do the replacing work? Adding a card is less expensive than replacing a whole pc.
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#8 Posted by mikeboy on 04 Sep 2006 - 21:49
- I see future in this, not too much future, but there is some, in the veru low mainstream market
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#9 Posted by So Scene on 04 Sep 2006 - 22:03
- Now I don't have to buy a new computer for Vista.
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#10 Posted by Nose Nuggets on 04 Sep 2006 - 22:42
- so you can get all the performance of a x1300 out of the pci bus? do we really need pci e or could we still be happy with agp 8x?
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#11 Posted by Chugworth on 05 Sep 2006 - 00:34
- Quote -the PCI card works in all PCs…Past, Present and Future
I'm not so sure about future PCs. PCI is heading down the same path as ISA. I think it will only be a few years before new mobos quit having PCI slots. -
#11.1 Posted by mayamaniac on 05 Sep 2006 - 00:57
- current PCI-Express slots is backward compatible with old PCI cards, so I think this card will work with PCI-E, and PCI-E is the PCI replacement, and it will be around for a long time, like 10 years before it gets replaced.
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#11.2 Posted by Andareed on 05 Sep 2006 - 01:56
- PCIe is only software-compatible with PCI, not hardware-compatible.
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#11.3 Posted by Croquant on 05 Sep 2006 - 02:04
- Quote - mayamaniac said @ #11.1current PCI-Express slots is backward compatible with old PCI cards, so I think this card will work with PCI-E, and PCI-E is the PCI replacement, and it will be around for a long time, like 10 years before it gets replaced.
Mayamanic, you don't know what you're talking about.
PCI cards will not slot into PCIe x16 slots, and PCIe x16 cards will not slot into PCI slots.
For one thing, they're not the same form factor. For another, the connectors on the card won't line up with the connectors in the slot if you were to try to slot PCI to PCIe or vicea versa. Go read some Wikipedia and leave the actual tech to people who know their stuff, alright?
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#12 Posted by Quick Reply on 05 Sep 2006 - 03:28
- Don't forget that you can saw the extra connectors off a 7800GTX and use it in a regular PCI slot too
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#13 Posted by Cyranthus on 05 Sep 2006 - 04:53
- im not too big on the thousands of graphic card numbers, but i know ive had problems updating my graphics card last time because i have only PCI slots (i have a nvidia 5200)... so how does this compare to other top graphics cards out there? is it pretty good, or is this complete crap?
also, whats the pricetag on this going to be?
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#14 Posted by eilegz on 05 Sep 2006 - 05:05
- well older pc would run vista well if they just get more ram and this
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#15 Posted by AkFuttySeben on 05 Sep 2006 - 11:01
- What is going to replace PCI like PCI replaced ISA?
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#15.1 Posted by ir0nw0lf on 05 Sep 2006 - 13:59
- PCI-Express or any sibling thereof most likely. There are plenty of PCI-e cards out there that are not video, but until the mobo companies stop putting PCI slots on the boards, companies will continue to make PCI cards. I can see a mobo that has 1 or 2 PCI-e x16 slots and nothing but x1, x2, x4, x8 slots, no PCI. Not this year or next mind you.
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#16 Posted by Rev. Otto on 05 Sep 2006 - 13:33
- Sometimes the "kiddies" don't realize that computing isn't just about the newest, latest. I have systems in my network ranging from 1.1ghz Athlons all the way up to my Core 2 Duo. Visiontek is a really smart company for supporting multiple platforms and inputs. I just bought their 512mb x1300 XGE for AGP 8x because I needed a fast dual-dvi card that wasn't a power hog like all the other options out there. $129 bucks for a x1k card with nice features that still supports AGP is still a hell of a lot cheaper than a whole new system.
“Everyone in PC industry has been saying the standard PCI upgrade for graphics cards was dead for the last few years. In fact, what we have experienced is growing demand for PCI graphics upgrades, because the PCI card works in all PCs…Past, Present and Future,” said Jeff Hoeft, senior director of product development for Visiontek.
Visiontek uses Radeon X1300 graphics processor along with special bridge chip on its new low-profile PCI graphics card. The board provides DirectX 9.0 shader model 3.0 support along with advanced Avivo video engine.