Sony to Delay European PlayStation 3 Launch
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#1 Posted by Spielo on 06 Sep 2006 - 10:06
- The shambles that is the PlayStation 3 launch just gets funnier and funnier.
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#2 Posted by Xerxes on 06 Sep 2006 - 10:08
- and they promised a world-wide launch
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#3 Posted by AnimaL on 06 Sep 2006 - 10:29
- Quote -Sony still said it plans to deliver 6 million of its game consoles to the market until the end of its fiscal year (March 31, 2007), the same amount of game machines it planned to have shipped till the aforementioned date.
So basically Sony are lying then - if they plan to ship the same number of units how is there a shortage of components? -
#3.2 Posted by AnimaL on 06 Sep 2006 - 10:42
- Quote - DomG said @ #3.1Read the text you quoted. Fiscal year.
I have read the text I quoted DomG. Why are poeple so rude on here sometimes.
I suppose it depends when they plan on shipping the units in March. -
#3.3 Posted by dangel on 06 Sep 2006 - 10:53
- Sony believe they'll sell just and many units because people are such sheep as to go and buy them regardless of the price or games available. They're probably right too - and that's pretty sad.
Sony - look it up in the dictionary - it says "complacent". -
#3.4 Posted by DomG on 06 Sep 2006 - 11:06
- Quote - AnimaL said @ #3.2Quote - DomG said @ #3.1Read the text you quoted. Fiscal year.
I have read the text I quoted DomG. Why are poeple so rude on here sometimes.
I suppose it depends when they plan on shipping the units in March.
Ah, I didn't mean to be rude. Just thought you might've missed what it said. I guess my reply was a bit short and to the point. Sorry
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#4 Posted by DomG on 06 Sep 2006 - 10:35
- Quote -the only affected regions are Europe, Russia, Middle East, Africa and Australasia.
Only? Jesus, those regions when added up aren't exactly small. Another screwup in the story that is the PS3. -
#4.1 Posted by kaffra on 06 Sep 2006 - 10:53
- thats true, but if you think about market size id say america+japan is very important for both hardware/software sales.
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#4.2 Posted by dangel on 06 Sep 2006 - 10:54
- Quote - DomG said @ #4Quote -the only affected regions are Europe, Russia, Middle East, Africa and Australasia.
Only? Jesus, those regions when added up aren't exactly small. Another screwup in the story that is the PS3.
Well I suppose it was better than them phrasing it:
"we're only not shipping it to the majority of the planet.." -
#4.3 Posted by Gamerhomie on 06 Sep 2006 - 13:18
- Heh, I was going to qoute that too.
"Only half the world."
But really the largest market is in America and Japan. -
#4.4 Posted by Xavien on 06 Sep 2006 - 13:59
- Europe is also a massive market, infact is virtually the same as the US, if not a little larger.
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#4.5 Posted by rIaHc3 on 06 Sep 2006 - 16:05
- thats true, but if you think about market size id say america+japan is very important for both hardware/software sales.
No, Sony's main consumer is Europe without a doubt. The MS/Xbox is paritally gaining much sucess so its not that big of a profit compared to Europe.
Europe is problably the most important market,
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#5 Posted by lerum on 06 Sep 2006 - 10:36
- Oh man... this just keeps getting worse and worse
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#6 Posted by sgtLENIN on 06 Sep 2006 - 10:38
- This is gettin really silly.
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#7 Posted by mcman on 06 Sep 2006 - 10:44
- I can here the PS3 fan boys crying already
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#7.1 Posted by EduardValencia on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:02
- lol that's so true
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#8 Posted by dheaddy on 06 Sep 2006 - 11:13
- As ever the European market has been screwed over again. Poor Sony, it's ironic that the one component which they are adamant is needed for true next-gen gaming is causing them so many problems.
Plus there's no PS3s for xmas in the UK which means the X360 will benefit greatly, especially since there's new a Pro Evo and FIFA out by the end of the year. -
#8.1 Posted by Garry on 06 Sep 2006 - 11:18
- I thought the next gen Pro Evolution Soccer 2007 (Not PES6, which is PS2/PSP/PC/XBo
only wasn't due until Q1 2007 anyway?
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#9 Posted by randomnut on 06 Sep 2006 - 11:25
- Sony has just handed Xbox the gext-gen crown on a silver platter.
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#10 Posted by idoia on 06 Sep 2006 - 11:29
- here is a cry askin if you have seen BHAV ?
He has all the answers
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#11 Posted by Simon Thulbourn on 06 Sep 2006 - 11:40
- Wow, now little Jimmy will be opening his Wii or Xbox 360 at Christmas, way to miss the boat sony.. you've now lost a good percentage of in europe...
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#11.1 Posted by WelshBluebird on 06 Sep 2006 - 16:17
- Quote - Simon Thulbourn said @ #11Wow, now little Jimmy will be opening his Wii or Xbox 360 at Christmas, way to miss the boat sony.. you've now lost a good percentage of in europe...
I don't think so tbh. The normal "little jimmy" probably won't get a console at launch anyways. IMHO, the only sales they will be missing will be the hardcore gamers who do buy consoles at launch (and sadly, hardcore gamers are a minority of people who own consoles). -
#11.2 Posted by Simon Thulbourn on 06 Sep 2006 - 21:56
- Quote - WelshBluebird said @ #11.1Quote - Simon Thulbourn said @ #11Wow, now little Jimmy will be opening his Wii or Xbox 360 at Christmas, way to miss the boat sony.. you've now lost a good percentage of in europe...
I don't think so tbh. The normal "little jimmy" probably won't get a console at launch anyways. IMHO, the only sales they will be missing will be the hardcore gamers who do buy consoles at launch (and sadly, hardcore gamers are a minority of people who own consoles).
Actually, they're screwed, most sales come from presents at birthdays or christmas, by missing the christmas rush for the latest and greatest (The PS3 may not actually be the greatest) Sony will certainly be left empty handed this christmas, they will have to wait for Christmas 2007 before they get an opertunity like this again, meaning Microsoft would have shipped more Xboxes this year, so thats money they may aswell have given Microsoft.
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#12 Posted by ramesees on 06 Sep 2006 - 11:50
- First thing I thought when I saw the headline...."Sony are toast"
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#12.1 Posted by randomnut on 06 Sep 2006 - 11:53
- Totally. Sony are betting everything on the PS3, and the only real difference is the blu-ray drive, which won't live nowhere near up to the hype.
Plus, Xbox already has its established Live service, and this delay will only serve to grow the community even more and solidify it as the current leader.
Of course, things might change in the future. Should Sony release a ps4, it might tip the balance should MS screw up (look at 2 years ago, who would have thought the xbox would have done so well, and sony cocked up so bad) but for this round of consoles, Xbox has it. -
#12.2 Posted by ramesees on 06 Sep 2006 - 13:11
- Yeah the Xbox360 is just great at the moment, and the Live online service is fantastic.
Proper integration, useable features, listening to gamers and putting it into practice, thats why Microsoft are on top this time and why Sony are gonna end up hurt, and hurt badly.
The Wii will have a couple of months head start in Europe at least, might not be enough to totally knock Sony into 3rd spot here, but definitely give them a run for their money.
The fun factor and low cost compared to the PS3 is gonna make it awfully tempting come Christmas / Q1 '07
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#13 Posted by bucko on 06 Sep 2006 - 12:06
- Sony hate Europe, they delay everything in Europe, I'm guessing this is UK to (since I live in England) but look at the PSP for an example. Have Sony actually ever done a worldwide launch pffft? Why pick on us, it's no fair.
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#13.1 Posted by DomG on 06 Sep 2006 - 12:38
- It's not just you being picked on, it's everyone bar Japan and North America.
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#13.2 Posted by mrmckeb on 06 Sep 2006 - 13:33
- Quote - DomG said @ #13.1It's not just you being picked on, it's everyone bar Japan and North America.
Yeah they hate Australia (my country) too, and most of Asia (especially China). But it's ok, I hate them back. -
#13.3 Posted by Smigit on 06 Sep 2006 - 16:03
- unfortunatly these "they" that you refer to isnt so much Sony as it is the entire industry. MS and Nintendo does the exact same thing, although I'm not sure on the Wii's release. Still, it's rather frustrating although the use of Pal probably doesnt help either.
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#13.4 Posted by DomG on 06 Sep 2006 - 23:17
- Quote - Smigit said @ #13.3unfortunatly these "they" that you refer to isnt so much Sony as it is the entire industry. MS and Nintendo does the exact same thing, although I'm not sure on the Wii's release. Still, it's rather frustrating although the use of Pal probably doesnt help either.
Not true, we in Australia got the DS Lite well before the US and Europe Nintendo likes us.
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#14 Posted by brettuk on 06 Sep 2006 - 12:07
- I'm fed up of being screwed over by the gaming corps, it's always america and japan never europe, why are we always the ones sacrificed?! I was saving up for a PS3, but they can screw it now, I wont be buying one (well not until they get cheaper) now, cause i'm fed up of it.
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#15 Posted by dangel on 06 Sep 2006 - 12:20
- Hmmm so I can buy a Wii _as well_ as a 360 this xmas for less than the cost of one PS3?
Tough decision.
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#15.1 Posted by mrmckeb on 06 Sep 2006 - 13:16
- lol. Stupid arrogant Sony. By release date, the 360 will be a third of the way through it's life cycle.
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#15.2 Posted by mufdvr3669 on 06 Sep 2006 - 15:14
- Quote - dangel said @ #15Hmmm so I can buy a Wii _as well_ as a 360 this xmas for less than the cost of one PS3?
Tough decision.
Not.
How? The $500 version of the PS3 is comparable in features to the $400 version of the 360, so you think the WII is going to launch at under $100? Let me get some of that crack that you are smoking. Plus that's the first time i've seen the phrase not used since 1993. Groovy and Radical dude. -
#15.3 Posted by rIaHc3 on 06 Sep 2006 - 16:19
- How? The $500 version of the PS3 is comparable in features to the $400 version of the 360, so you think the WII is going to launch at under $100? Let me get some of that crack that you are smoking. Plus that's the first time i've seen the phrase not used since 1993. Groovy and Radical dude.
Your possibly getting a way better value with paying those 2 consoles.
The version comparable to the Xbox $400 version is the PS3 $599 version. So yes I think you could get a Wii and a Xbox 360 for the same price as a PS3.
The phrase? Its called being old school. Everyone has a style so deal with it.
Bottom line: Stop defending Sony when its alreadying putting a knife in its own heart. -
#15.4 Posted by dangel on 06 Sep 2006 - 16:49
- Quote - mufdvr3669 said @ #15.2Quote - dangel said @ #15Hmmm so I can buy a Wii _as well_ as a 360 this xmas for less than the cost of one PS3?
Tough decision.
Not.
How? The $500 version of the PS3 is comparable in features to the $400 version of the 360, so you think the WII is going to launch at under $100? Let me get some of that crack that you are smoking. Plus that's the first time i've seen the phrase not used since 1993. Groovy and Radical dude.
You're stressing about me using 'not' in my comment? Get a life
Anyway, you're point is somewhat moot seeing at the 360 _now_ retails in the uk for 200ukp for the core version - and the wii has a projected price of 145ukp. Now even if I spend a _whole_ extra 60quid for the premium 360 - that puts me well on par with the insanely high priced PS3 (425ukp) - which isn't even available this xmas - which is likely to be well over 400ukp alone. Of course if I waited till the PS3 actually launched in volume in Europe the 360 will probably be _even less_ (as will the Wii).. Not to mention by owning two major consoles (for the price of one) I get a lot more choices of games..
Apparently you were smoking when posting - or you're just crap at mathematics.. 'Dude' lol.
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#16 Posted by Jesse Carlton on 06 Sep 2006 - 13:33
- 1. this doesn't affect me at all.
2. japan alone is a big enough market to sustain the PS3 for a few years, throw in NA and they'll be set.
3. no console ever, anywhere, that people cared about has had a worldwide launch, it's stupid for a company to try.
4. if the company screws up a targeted launch date, how does that make the games worse? Isn't it about having fun, not seeing what multinational corporation can waste money faster to get it's cheaply made product out the door? -
#16.1 Posted by TRC on 06 Sep 2006 - 13:36
- "Isn't it about having fun"
Yes, that's why I think everyone is going to buy a Wii instead of spending a small fortune on an overpriced hype machine. -
#16.2 Posted by Smigit on 06 Sep 2006 - 16:08
- Quote -4. if the company screws up a targeted launch date, how does that make the games worse? Isn't it about having fun, not seeing what multinational corporation can waste money faster to get it's cheaply made product out the door?
It's very hard to have fun on a console that hasnt shipped currently yet though right? It wont be a better product for the delay, they will be selling it in the US and Japan and the rest of the world will get the exact same console besides a POSSIBLE minor revision, but that wouldnt be major. In short you wont be getting a better product, just the same product at a much later date.
Considering it's about having fun everyone besides the US and Japan will have the potential to have that fun on the 360 and wii instead seeing as PS3 wont be an option until march. And that aint good news for sony, especially with the jolly old xmas season now being missed.
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#17 Posted by TRC on 06 Sep 2006 - 13:34
- Personally I think the PS3 is going to be a disaster. I don't think this is the last of their problems, the thing will probably end up having shortages everywhere and the ones that do make it to stores will probably end up having overheating problems or some other major issue. I can't say I'd be sorry to see them fail, that company is out of control.
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#18 Posted by Xavien on 06 Sep 2006 - 13:57
- its also been confirmed only 400,000 units are heading to the US at launch and 100,000 units heading to Japan at launch.
This is a MASSIVE step back for Sony and a great chance for Nintendo and Microsoft to come in and take over markets. Not to mention it could give HD-DVD a big big leg up. -
#18.1 Posted by TRC on 06 Sep 2006 - 14:04
- HD-DVD is already beating Blu-Ray to death in sales. The PS3 is basically it's only hope; if it fails the Blu-Ray studios are going to be jumping like rats from a sinking ship and switching to HD-DVD.
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#18.2 Posted by Mathiasdm on 06 Sep 2006 - 14:34
- Quote - TRC said @ #18.1HD-DVD is already beating Blu-Ray to death in sales. The PS3 is basically it's only hope; if it fails the Blu-Ray studios are going to be jumping like rats from a sinking ship and switching to HD-DVD.
Beating it to death? Please!
First of all, both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are selling nearly nothing.
Secondly, HD-DVD has sold 33% more than Blu-Ray. Hardly beating to death, right?
Thirdly, Blu-Ray better emerge the winner! Not because I give a damn about Sony, but because I want those 200 GB disks! -
#18.3 Posted by TRC on 06 Sep 2006 - 14:41
- HD-DVD sales have remained steady since it's launch, Blu-Ray sales took a nose dive and have been struggling ever since. Also those 200GB discs have nothing to do with the movie industry, and as far as those go even if they ever do go on sale in our lifetimes I'm sure a 4 layer disc would be really affordable and reliable. (yeah right).
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#18.4 Posted by mufdvr3669 on 06 Sep 2006 - 15:09
- Still hardly "beating it to death". Blu-Ray is going to seize and conquer and demolish and destroy HD-DVD with it's higher capacity. See I can use stupid phrases that overexaggerate things too. YAY for me
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#18.5 Posted by dangel on 06 Sep 2006 - 16:56
- Ignoring inane comments but the format war won't be one on capacity - it'll be won on marketing alone. Betamax (the old analogy) was superior to VHS in that respect and look what happened there.. Nobody can call the winner as of yet but certainly the late release (and therefore penetraton of blu-ray devices) of the PS3 won't do blu-ray any good in terms of getting the market seeded.
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#19 Posted by Smigit on 06 Sep 2006 - 14:03
- Woah big mess up. And with Xbox getting some extremly big name titles over that period such as Gears of War, possibly mass effect ect and the fact it'll be only between Xbox and Wii at xmas PS3 will be even further behind. Hell I wouldnt bet on it but it could be possible that MS would coincide a Halo 3 launch with the Ps3 and at the price it could be a major deterant to PS3 customers.
It also means MS have even less pressure to lower their price...they can really afford to wait until after christmas and do it in mid Feb if thats an option they want to take. I also feel sorry for any people local who actually put a deposit on the console, I'm sure many parents have in order to get one for Xmas and now they dont have their money nor the gifts for the xmas tree.
But yes, not a great launch at all. And many people thought the 360's was sloppy, this is terrible (especially if Xavien said aboce in #18 is true)
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#20 Posted by Magallanes on 06 Sep 2006 - 14:08
- For every Sony's "delay" always exist a Lik-Sang worldwide retail.
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#21 Posted by American Ninja on 06 Sep 2006 - 14:23
- I'll wait until I see a official press release from Sony to believe it. The PS3 will still reign supreme
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#21.1 Posted by rIaHc3 on 06 Sep 2006 - 16:23
- Sony has nailed itself in the heart with a knife. Dont try to take it out. It'll die anyways.
Google. Look how many sources there are. Do you really need to close your eyes and hide from the truth? Sony/MS/Nintendo dont make press releases when something bad occurs.
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#22 Posted by kronix2 on 06 Sep 2006 - 14:27
- Shipping a product to 0.5 billion people does not constitute a worldwide release.
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#22.1 Posted by ramesees on 06 Sep 2006 - 15:24
- You're close, except switch the 'p' in spat with an 'h' and you're closer to the truth ,
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#22.2 Posted by Smigit on 06 Sep 2006 - 15:59
- Well you can count Australia and 3/4 of the world in there, it's not just you guys.
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#22.3 Posted by Samboini on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:22
- Quote - kronix2 said @ #22Shipping a product to 0.5 billion people does not constitute a worldwide release.
Once again, European gamers are being spat on.
You missed a decimal point! Half a million is in fact 0.05 billion! Gets worse the more you look at it! Crikey!
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#23 Posted by Pc_Madness on 06 Sep 2006 - 14:27
- Just keeps on getting worse for Sony. :
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#24 Posted by BBinder on 06 Sep 2006 - 14:28
- Yeah what ever you do dont try importing the PS3 into ur coutnry ifs its not launched there as i heard on the news SONY would probably sue you like they did with people who imported the PS2
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#25 Posted by Apple Fanboy on 06 Sep 2006 - 14:36
- Who cares? I can play Guitar Hero's on PS3 and you 360 owner not!
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#26 Posted by Galley on 06 Sep 2006 - 14:41
- 400,00 units in the U.S. It's Xbox 360 all over again!
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#27 Posted by Ravensworth on 06 Sep 2006 - 15:15
- They must have ran into a shortage of giant enemy crabs.
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#28 Posted by B0GiE on 06 Sep 2006 - 16:43
- Screw Sony. They are gonna bomb with their PS3 being delayed and underperforming.
My moneys going to a an ATi DX10 graphics card which will pee-pee all over xbox 360 and ps3.
I hope sony's drm backfires on them too!
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#29 Posted by Ravensworth on 06 Sep 2006 - 16:48
- Blu-Ray is killing the PS3. It would have been out last spring but Sony decided they would use their Playstation market to force Blu-Ray into becoming the next standard. Once again their greed and arrogance is coming back to bite them.
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#30 Posted by Obraxis on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:58
- Stupid Sony. They've royally ****ed up lots of kid's Christmas'.
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#31 Posted by mysticalone on 07 Sep 2006 - 03:59
- Every time you "master bait", Sony is hurt, real bad. So please think of sony and stop the habbit.
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#32 Posted by DaveBG on 07 Sep 2006 - 13:09
- Hah does some more months mean that much? Yes even if Christmas is between?
I will not buy the PS3 cos i do not play games, but does some "delay" means that it is crap and not needed? I welcome every new hardwere out there so i hope PS3 gets what it deserves in a fair way!
Ken Kutaragi, the head of SCEI, said the machine would still be launched in November in the U.S. and in Japan and the only affected regions are Europe, Russia, Middle East, Africa and Australasia. Mr Kutaragi blamed the European delay on problems in mass producing elements of the high-definition Blu-ray disc drives in the machines, BBC reports. Sony PlayStation 3 console is based on the Cell processor developed by IBM, Sony and Toshiba, the RSX graphics chip by Nvidia Corp. and will be equipped with Blu-ray optical disk drive, a hardware part, which is merely available today.
Sony still said it plans to deliver 6 million of its game consoles to the market until the end of its fiscal year (March 31, 2007), the same amount of game machines it planned to have shipped till the aforementioned date.