Windows Vista RC1 Available to the Masses
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#1 Posted by metalguy90 on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:26
- i'm waiting on Office 2007 Tech Refresh now!
wo0o0o0! first comment!
had RC1 for a week and i would have to say it is a big improvement. However, there are still quite a few bugs that MS has to work out. -
#1.1 Posted by Destroyer of Nations on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:55
- Yeah, I'm also waiting on Office '07! I use Office all of the time!
Yay RC1! -
#1.2 Posted by M118LR on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:22
- If you go to
www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/preview.mspx
About half way down the page is a link to 2007 Office Beta 2 TR. It says you need to upgrade to the Refresh to work on RC1. -
#1.3 Posted by metalguy90 on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:50
- i just did went there and downloaded Office 2007. but its not the TR.
and now they charged my cc $1.70!!!
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#1.4 Posted by Timothy003 on 06 Sep 2006 - 19:40
- Quote - M118LR said @ #1.2If you go toThe technical refresh isn't released yet.
www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/preview.mspx
About half way down the page is a link to 2007 Office Beta 2 TR. It says you need to upgrade to the Refresh to work on RC1.Quote -Using Windows Vista RC1 and Office Beta
A technical refresh of the 2007 Office system Beta 2 is needed for those interested in using it with Windows Vista Release Candidate 1 (RC1). If you want to run the two products together, we recommend coming back at a future time to get the technical refresh.
Source: 2007 Microsoft Office System Beta 2
I, for one, can install Office 2007 Beta 2 just fine on RC1. Just have to deal with the black text in the titlebar when the windows are maximized. -
#1.5 Posted by metalguy90 on 06 Sep 2006 - 19:52
- Quote - Timothy003 said @ #1.3
The technical refresh isn't released yet.
that's what i thought but it is getting closer. on one of the pages, it mentions that Office 2007 professional is 550MB. Beta 2 was 440MB so it looks like TR will be 550MB. Probably just getting the pages ready like they did with Vista RC1Quote - Timothy003 said @ #1.3
I, for one, can install Office 2007 Beta 2 just fine on RC1. Just have to deal with the black text in the titlebar when the windows are maximized.
I have had no problems installing Beta 2 on RC1 either. There are a couple of bugs that I thought might be addressed in TR. we'll have to wait and see.
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#2 Posted by Garry on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:29
- It appears you need to use MSIE to download this.
Ignore me. You can download in any browser using the alternative links on the Download Page. -
#2.1 Posted by virtualmadden on 06 Sep 2006 - 22:09
- You can download either way on any browser, you just need to go to the downloads page first instead of the direct links on Neowin.
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#3 Posted by Tungsten T on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:31
- How the **** do i get a key?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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#3.1 Posted by Inplode on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:34
- Quote - Tungsten T said @ #3How the **** do i get a key?!?!?!?!?!?!?
no key no vista
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#4 Posted by mukati on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:38
- Downloading at 2.32 MB/sec
Will be done in 17 mins!
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#5 Posted by MichaelBL on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:41
- Your OMG OMG link says nothing about a Key?
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#6 Posted by slyph on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:42
- um it stops at 907kb lol wtf
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#7 Posted by metalguy90 on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:43
- you can use your Beta 2 key.
Connect testers were told to use their beta 2 key (which has been used for many other builds as well)
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#8 Posted by Crucify on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:43
- Yeh the OMG link is not where you get a key, wonder if we are to use the beta2 key? I havent recieved a new email from MS stating otherwise.
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#9 Posted by SeBsZ on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:44
- The OMG OMG link is of no use. No way to register for a key. It does, however, have this to offer:
If you registered for this program in June, please look for a recent e-mail message from Microsoft (sent in early September) with information regarding RC1. If you are not registered but would like to receive Windows Vista RC1, the CPP will open to new participants in the coming weeks. Please check this site periodically for updates
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#10 Posted by Colin-uk on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:44
- downloading at 35kb/s >.<
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#10.1 Posted by StarSabers on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:22
- I'm pushing between 860KB/sec to 880KB/sec.
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#11 Posted by mohan_168 on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:45
- Yes OMG!! has no Key
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#12 Posted by Chicane-UK on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:47
- Downloading at 1mbps of my 2mbps link.. I think MS is getting battered!
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#13 Posted by slyph on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:47
- thats not masses, the title is misleading. it requires a key that many do not have.
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#13.2 Posted by Divide Overflow on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:54
- Quote - Simon said @ #13.1Well, it will run for 14 days without a key
Without a VALID key. Still need one to install. -
#13.3 Posted by Simon on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:08
- Nope, you are not required to enter a key at all during the install...
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#13.4 Posted by Divide Overflow on 07 Sep 2006 - 17:40
- Quote - Simon said @ #13.3Nope, you are not required to enter a key at all during the install...I hope it is only my sarcasm recognition machine that has gone on the fritz, but to my knowledge when you perform a clean install from Windows, or boot from the DVD, the very first thing you do is enter a license key.
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#14 Posted by Garry on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:47
- Aww. I lost my Beta 2 key in a Hard Drive crash. Any way to log in to the CPP and rerequest it?
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#15 Posted by Tungsten T on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:48
- I'm downloding in firefox.
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#15.2 Posted by Alex the man on 07 Sep 2006 - 14:58
- Quote - Sawyer12 said @ #15.1WOW Realy OMG :p
lol, i would download it if Hotdog wouldnt give me that damn iso!!
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#16 Posted by acrophile on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:49
- Beta2 keys work to install, but do they let you activate?
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#16.1 Posted by Divide Overflow on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:53
- Quote - acrophile said @ #16Beta2 keys work to install, but do they let you activate?
Yes.
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#17 Posted by Divide Overflow on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:52
- I had my key from the Beta 2 CPP, in fact I've used that same beta key to activate not just my CPP aquired Beta 2, but interim builds as well as the RC1 I obtained before it was available to CPP users.
IMO the CPP, Connect, MSDN, and the like are all staggered for no other reason than to try to limit the damage bandwidth-wise for Microsoft and keep their various tester groups happy. If you had people trying to download Vista via Connect as well as CPP, Connect users would understandably be upset about their low(er?) transfer rates. MSDN is the same way. An MSDN subscriber (or their company) has paid Microsoft for the ability to download prerelease versions of software, and they sure as heck don't want to share the same bandwidth as the unwashed CPP masses. -
#17.1 Posted by Philip Hristov on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:56
- Power to the masses!
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#17.2 Posted by Divide Overflow on 06 Sep 2006 - 17:59
- Quote - Philip Hristov said @ #17.1Power to the masses!Power to IRC.
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#17.4 Posted by M118LR on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:28
- The CPP Program dosn't use MS Servers. It is contracted out. That is why the Download Manager is not Microsofts. MS uses the File Transfer Manager.
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#17.5 Posted by Divide Overflow on 06 Sep 2006 - 19:06
- Quote - M118LR said @ #17.4The CPP Program dosn't use MS Servers. It is contracted out. That is why the Download Manager is not Microsofts. MS uses the File Transfer Manager.To Akamai, correct? I suppose it still takes some time for the contracted company to set up mirrors for the files.
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#17.6 Posted by ThePitt on 07 Sep 2006 - 02:18
- Quote - Divide Overflow said @ #17.2Power to IRC.
Power to Torrents
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#17.7 Posted by Divide Overflow on 07 Sep 2006 - 17:41
- Quote - ThePitt said @ #17.6IRC had it first.Quote - Divide Overflow said @ #17.2Power to IRC.
Power to Torrents
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#18 Posted by jordanspringer on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:05
- When i use download manager it downloads a 900kb file, when i use IE to download, it downloads a 7.7kb file
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#19 Posted by rev23dev on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:11
- i hope ms now releases hardware updates so all my ms hardware works
need intelipoint, intelitype, lifecam, fingerprint reader all updated
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#20 Posted by Mindlink on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:11
- I'm getting a 900k file also... Trying for the x64 version :-(
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#20.2 Posted by paratrupr on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:22
- I had the same problem, but found that if you go to the Microsoft Download Page first, then click the iso link for the 32-bit/64-bit versions, you should be ok.
Update - I'm at 11% already with 1MB/sec transfer
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#21 Posted by playsk on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:21
- I think the servers are getting hammered ...
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#22 Posted by djesteban on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:23
- ok... this has been available for a while... though there's no key available yet to the public... the title is very misleading
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#22.2 Posted by StarSabers on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:25
- It's been available since Friday for Connect users. If you were in Beta 2, you should have your key. Or, click the "OMG OMG! Where do I get a key?" link.
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#22.3 Posted by Ravensworth on 06 Sep 2006 - 19:14
- The "Where do I get a key" link is useless. There are no new keys, so saying this is available to the masses certainly seems misleading to me.
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#22.4 Posted by joeydoo on 06 Sep 2006 - 19:47
- Can I install and use Vista for 14 days without having a key and hope that the keys are released in that time? I didn't get a key the first time round.
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#22.5 Posted by Ravensworth on 06 Sep 2006 - 20:43
- Yes, from what I've read a key is not required to install it. It will work for 14 days without being activated.
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#23 Posted by StarSabers on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:24
- I've downloaded 13% so far with FDM. ~350MB out of 2584MB
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#24 Posted by hopecon on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:26
- that happen to me too with the download manager..
just re-download it
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#25 Posted by cbosdell on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:27
- i get a redirected to a download restricted page?
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#26 Posted by M118LR on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:32
- There are no new keys at this time. If you do not have a Beta 2 Key, you will not receive a key with this download.
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#27 Posted by dhanesh on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:37
- D'loadin at 66 k/s .. atleast its 66 with a d'load manager, with browser it hung up on 700mb .. hope this finishes ..
Ohh and the Beta 2 Key works rite ? Just confirming
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#28 Posted by dacbo on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:38
- grrr so annoyed, had a beta 2 key and the email got lost
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#28.1 Posted by Disjunto on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:40
- you should receive a new key in an email wiith RC1 info if you activated Beta 2. going through customer support just wastes about 2 weeks and they just say "we cant offer new keys" even though you have told them several times that you have registered and should be on the database.
stupid ms
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#29 Posted by Ogden2k on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:40
- I deleted my email for beta 2 as well...
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#30 Posted by Marvelous on 06 Sep 2006 - 18:41
- seems like this will be the last and only RC for vista.. i saw it on the vista website.
i have geen using RC1 now as a major OS or lets say the only OS on my pc and i am using a clumsy very old 2002 model pc. everything is running fast and stable not one crash so far. i have geen using it for 4 days now and was badly messign with the drivers.
its amazing that everything is my outdated pc seems to work fine except for the sound decive which is driving me crazy.. as for everything else its working faster than it used to on win xp.
well lets hope it comes down all fine to the final release by then i might get a top of the line desktop computer by january.
back to my main point is this really the only RC to be released before the final ?
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#31 Posted by Fr@nKy on 06 Sep 2006 - 19:04
- BTW tell me one thing how much space do I need to install Vista?? I have a 21Gb partition but maybe 30GB is better?? Don't you think?
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#32 Posted by chisss on 06 Sep 2006 - 19:08
- see I would looove to download the 64bit version but asswipes at creative never released correct working drivers for the x-fi for x64 and they still have not! bastrds
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#33 Posted by Fr@nKy on 06 Sep 2006 - 19:15
- x64 version Sucks
"How come x64 is so horrible? Does Microsoft want Apple to make it look silly again? Those foolish enough to install an x64 version of Windows Vista will become pretty surly when they realize none of their applications will work, none of their existing drivers mean diddly-squat anymore, and, most humorously, that x64 PC you bought probably doesn't support more than 4 GB of RAM anyway. OK, that last one isn't Microsoft's fault, but seriously. It's all part of the malaise that is the x64 "ecosystem." Said by Paul Thurrot -
#33.1 Posted by dangel on 07 Sep 2006 - 08:36
- Quote - Fr@nKy said @ #33x64 version Sucks
"How come x64 is so horrible? Does Microsoft want Apple to make it look silly again? Those foolish enough to install an x64 version of Windows Vista will become pretty surly when they realize none of their applications will work, none of their existing drivers mean diddly-squat anymore, and, most humorously, that x64 PC you bought probably doesn't support more than 4 GB of RAM anyway. OK, that last one isn't Microsoft's fault, but seriously. It's all part of the malaise that is the x64 "ecosystem." Said by Paul Thurrot
What sucks is that companies have had WinXP X64 for 16months and yet still haven't sorted out 64bit drivers properly. That's not MS' fault
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#34 Posted by James R. on 06 Sep 2006 - 20:14
- I'm sorry if this has been asked but what do you do when you don't have a Beta 2 key? I am one of those 100,000 that downloaded the pre-release. I've managed to install it without a key but would like to obtain a trial key until June.
Anyone know how?
Thank you very much,
James.
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#34.1 Posted by Jugalator on 06 Sep 2006 - 20:27
- EDIT:
You may wish to monitor this forum on Microsoft's official boards:
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowFo...9&SiteID=17
There are both a "I Need Product Keys" thread and a "Lost activation code" thread, but unfortunately also "We no longer have Vista Product keys available" which is their last word on it. :-(
Which is why I recommend monitoring that forum. If they don't have Beta2/RC1 keys still, they may start a new round of deliveries there later. :-/
Their RC1 announcement says there are currently no keys to get there though:
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPo...5&SiteID=17
Another option is to upgrade your Beta 2 install, if you have one. Maybe it won't ask for keys then?
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#34.2 Posted by James R. on 06 Sep 2006 - 20:42
- Quote - Jugalator said @ #34.1EDIT:
You may wish to monitor this forum on Microsoft's official boards:
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowFo...9&SiteID=17
There are both a "I Need Product Keys" thread and a "Lost activation code" thread, but unfortunately also "We no longer have Vista Product keys available" which is their last word on it. :-(
Which is why I recommend monitoring that forum. If they don't have Beta2/RC1 keys still, they may start a new round of deliveries there later. :-/
Their RC1 announcement says there are currently no keys to get there though:
http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPo...5&SiteID=17
Another option is to upgrade your Beta 2 install, if you have one. Maybe it won't ask for keys then?
Thank you for your fast response.
It didn't ask for a key upon installation - well you didn't have to give one - but now I have 14 days to activate my Vista. Ah well, I'll monitor that link.
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#34.3 Posted by Jugalator on 07 Sep 2006 - 09:06
- I also saw on these Neowin boards that they may be starting to hand out a new round of keys for the Customer Preview Program due to this RC1 soon, but I haven't really seen anything official said about that.
edit: well, yes, actually they have: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2...IndustryPR.mspx
edit 2: MS official says "keep watching this blog" as for new keys: http://blogs.technet.com/windowsvista/default.aspx
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#35 Posted by jordanspringer on 06 Sep 2006 - 20:26
- has microsoft emailed any CPP members about RC1 yet? i'm stilll waiting
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#36 Posted by brlmedia on 06 Sep 2006 - 20:28
- no emails regarding RC1 yet but i used my beta 2 key and it activated fine. time to test and play!
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#37 Posted by mastertr on 06 Sep 2006 - 20:36
- Yeah, I activated my Beta 2 copy, and never got an email regarding RC1 either. Thankfully, I printed out, and have archived in Gmail, my Vista Beta 2 keys, so I will be able to use RC1
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#38 Posted by aStRaLgOd on 06 Sep 2006 - 20:47
- Installing from Pre-RC1 to RC1 atm (Upgrade)
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#38.1 Posted by aStRaLgOd on 06 Sep 2006 - 21:41
- Quote - aStRaLgOd said @ #38Installing from Pre-RC1 to RC1 atm (Upgrade)
Wish me luck!
Hmph. Installed ok, but I installed an available Windows update, crashed the installation....
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#38.2 Posted by M118LR on 06 Sep 2006 - 23:20
- A 5536 to 5600 upgrade is not supported. Did you not read the page about" only upgrades from XP SP2 or Vista Beta 2 are supported"? Don't bother to try to send any bug reports in.
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#39 Posted by GEIST on 06 Sep 2006 - 21:23
- Are these ISOs meant to be publically available or did someone with access to them just snag the URLs and put it like M$ made them freely available? I don't see much sense in them being available publically for every joe shmoe to download them without being able to obtain a license key (yet).
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#39.1 Posted by M2Ys4U on 06 Sep 2006 - 21:31
- They're properly publically availible, just like the pre-RC1 builds and beta2.
If you got a license key with beta 2 (you didn't need to activate) then you can use that for Vista. -
#39.2 Posted by xelencin on 06 Sep 2006 - 21:46
- I've read you can install it without a key and enter one within 14 days, sounds good as long as they allow new signups by then.
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#40 Posted by Xenomorph on 06 Sep 2006 - 21:56
- i think Microsoft should be distributing this with BitTorrent
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#41 Posted by XDViPeR on 06 Sep 2006 - 22:02
- I'm installing this on my Macbook, right now it's ons "Installing Updates" NOW, its restarting HAHAHAHA WOOT WOOT later guys, i'ma have some fun with my VistaBook
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#41.2 Posted by QuarterSwede on 06 Sep 2006 - 22:30
- Quote - XDViPeR said @ #41its restarting HAHAHAHA WOOT WOOT
We all know it isn't UNIX based.
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#42 Posted by Catharsis on 06 Sep 2006 - 22:26
- I don't get it. What's the difference between this one and the RC1 Preview I got like 2 weeks ago? I'm just a regular public dude.
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#42.2 Posted by Catharsis on 06 Sep 2006 - 22:32
- OK, all I know is that the Preview was build 5536, whereas this new RC1 is 5600. But the difference is...what?
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#42.3 Posted by Ravensworth on 06 Sep 2006 - 23:03
- Probably just minor bug fixes. I already downloaded 5536 so I'm not going to do it all over again.
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#42.4 Posted by Richardo on 07 Sep 2006 - 00:01
- Maybe they labelled the pre-rc1 so just incase it had some terrible flaw they had chance to fix it for 5600, and Microsoft didn't want that bad press for its Release Candidate 1.
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#42.5 Posted by Jugalator on 07 Sep 2006 - 09:03
- No, there are differences between the builds, but no big ones.
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#42.6 Posted by franzon on 07 Sep 2006 - 15:23
- You must download this, because you'll have performance improvements and bug fixes.
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#43 Posted by ThePitt on 06 Sep 2006 - 22:39
Microsoft notes on the website: Windows Vista RC1 is available for participants of the Windows Vista Customer Preview Program. Please go to the Customer Preview Program website to register and receive a Product Key, which is required to install and activate the software.
For those of you who are brave enough to update: Before upgrading from Beta 2 to RC1, please install any Critical Updates from Windows Update for Beta 2. Go to Start, All Programs, Windows Update, and click the “Check for Updates” button.