Windows Vista RC2 - Build 5744
Posted by Tom Warren on 04 October 2006 - 22:26 · 70 comments & 59955 views
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#1 Posted by Mr. Dee on 04 Oct 2006 - 22:32
- Refined AERO screen? Hmm, sounds interesting.
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#2 Posted by illz55 on 04 Oct 2006 - 22:34
- The refined screen is the less-dark black maximized window modifications. Another article on neowin mentions that.
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#2.1 Posted by Tom W on 04 Oct 2006 - 22:38
- Indeed, that was what I was hinting at - not a new interface like some other people seem to believe is coming when it's not.
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#2.2 Posted by Jugalator on 05 Oct 2006 - 01:08
- http://www.istartedsomething.com/20061005/...aximize-border/
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#2.3 Posted by Nexus- on 05 Oct 2006 - 06:33
- Quote - Tom W said @ #2.1Indeed, that was what I was hinting at - not a new interface like some other people seem to believe is coming when it's not.
http://blog.utaks.net
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#2.4 Posted by Tom W on 05 Oct 2006 - 06:40
- Quote - Nexus- said @ #1.3Quote - Tom W said @ #2.1Indeed, that was what I was hinting at - not a new interface like some other people seem to believe is coming when it's not.
http://blog.utaks.net
I notice you're not chirping on about "aero diamond" anymore. Finally realised it's not coming in RTM?
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#3 Posted by NeoXP on 04 Oct 2006 - 22:35
- I can't wait for an actual boot screen.. Wonder what it will look like....
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#3.1 Posted by GeeZuZz on 04 Oct 2006 - 22:54
- If the boot screen had any use at all, they would need to add a boot delay, so that we can have a good look at it. With a fast computer it's gone withing 2 seconds. I really see no point in it at all.
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#3.2 Posted by Ryster092 on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:29
- Quote - GeeZuZz said @ #3.1If the boot screen had any use at all, they would need to add a boot delay, so that we can have a good look at it. With a fast computer it's gone withing 2 seconds. I really see no point in it at all.
Not everyone has a superfast computer that only shows the boot screen for 2 seconds. My Athlon 64 3500+ with a gig of ram takes about 10-15 seconds to load. -
#3.3 Posted by Jugalator on 05 Oct 2006 - 00:54
- I wouldn't mind if there was no boot picture this time and it instead just displayed diagnostic messages. Well, perhaps with a small animated logo in a corner or something then. Boot screens get old real quick anyway, and then it's better to have something of use.
I know there's a "no GUI" option already, at least in XP, but the problem is that it doesn't really provide any useful information on what it's doing in case something would go wrong during bootup, or warns up stuff failing at bootup. -
#3.4 Posted by Ideas Man on 05 Oct 2006 - 01:18
- Quote - Jugalator said @ #3.3I wouldn't mind if there was no boot picture this time and it instead just displayed diagnostic messages. Well, perhaps with a small animated logo in a corner or something then. Boot screens get old real quick anyway, and then it's better to have something of use.
I know there's a "no GUI" option already, at least in XP, but the problem is that it doesn't really provide any useful information on what it's doing in case something would go wrong during bootup, or warns up stuff failing at bootup.
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#3.5 Posted by Brandon Live on 05 Oct 2006 - 05:51
- On XP if you add /sos to the boot configuration string (in boot.ini) you'll get text output of modules as they load and other diagnostic information.
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#3.6 Posted by Jugalator on 05 Oct 2006 - 11:35
- Quote -That's what boot logging is for, if you want that, go to linux.
???
But I want the feature in Windows, not Linux. I want to diagnose problems easier in Windows, not Linux.
Linux is that totally different platform one may have a hundred reasons to not wish to move to, you know.Quote -On XP if you add /sos to the boot configuration string (in boot.ini) you'll get text output of modules as they load and other diagnostic information.
Hmm, I may need to try that again; I *think* I did once but wasn't pleased with rather scarce output. Not 100% sure though.
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#4 Posted by mircleman on 04 Oct 2006 - 22:39
- ive had the rc 2 test disk for a week now
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#4.2 Posted by rIaHc3 on 04 Oct 2006 - 22:50
- ive had the rc 2 test disk for a week now
Yeah and my gran is the queen of Britain
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#4.4 Posted by Jugalator on 05 Oct 2006 - 00:56
- Hey, the miracle man is saying it, what do you expect!
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#5 Posted by digitalsoft on 04 Oct 2006 - 22:44
- im glad of this news, i was going to download RC1...
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#6 Posted by j0j081 on 04 Oct 2006 - 22:45
- so those download links don't work yet right? I am at work so I can't check.
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#7 Posted by eilegz on 04 Oct 2006 - 22:54
- i hope that my sound card work this time something so basic like that should work...
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#7.1 Posted by Taliseian on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:02
- If your hoping for hardware accellerated sound (like Creative EAX) I wouldn't hold your breath.
Microsoft changed the sound stack and current cards/drivers don't work well in Vista.
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#7.2 Posted by PGHammer on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:32
- Quote - Taliseian said @ #7.1If your hoping for hardware accellerated sound (like Creative EAX) I wouldn't hold your breath.
Microsoft changed the sound stack and current cards/drivers don't work well in Vista.
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Considering that Creative's beta drivers for the Audigy series *does* work with RC1, why wouldn't they work with RC2? (I don't own an X-Fi, so I have no idea about the current beta X-Fi drivers.)
I know about the beta Audigy drivers because I do own an Audigy 2 ZS, and use the current beta drivers with build 5728 (RC1 refresh). While EAX is *not* fully supported (in fact, EAX for games is missing), hardware acceleration and CMSS2 both work. (EAX general environment support is present and functional.) -
#7.3 Posted by Ryster092 on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:32
- The build has nothing to do with wether your sound card will work or not eilegz. What you need are new drivers that are compatible with Vista. Go and pester your sound card manufacturer for new drivers, don't expect Microsoft to give us a magical driver that makes all sound cards work.
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#8 Posted by mel00 on 04 Oct 2006 - 22:57
- just release the damn thing already so much drama... how about retail?
edit: I wonder how many people are just sitting at download page.. rofl.
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#8.1 Posted by kaiwai on 05 Oct 2006 - 07:25
- Quote - mel00 said @ #8just release the damn thing already so much drama... how about retail?
edit: I wonder how many people are just sitting at download page.. rofl.
Bugger that; give me IE 7 and Media Player 11, and I'll be happy to wait till SP1 (which will coincide with the release of Windows Vista Server)
Windows Vista is looking at being a really good release for Microsoft; some people here have bohooed it; I'm no "Microsoft Fanboy" but when it boils down to it, they're not going to stuff up a big money spinner, especially a product on which all their future services and software will be reliant on.
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#9 Posted by simon360 on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:06
- Now that I have my laptop back (after 4 months in "talks", if you consider once every month talks), I might give Vista a whirl. Especially now that my sister, the (moderately) computer illiterate one, has Vista, and I don't (I don't know why, but she has Vista and my brother has a Macbook. All I'm saying is that I'm as jealous as hell of both of them).
/end abuse of brackets
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#10 Posted by johndotcom83 on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:08
- vista_5744.16384.061003-1945
http://www.windowsitpro.com/windowspaulthu...rott_93715.html
Build number!!!
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#11 Posted by cleitondj on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:10
- vista_5744.16384.061003-1945 ???????
what is this??
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#11.1 Posted by Ryster092 on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:33
- 5744.16384 is the build number, 061003-1945 is the compile date and time.
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#11.2 Posted by Broken Halo on 05 Oct 2006 - 00:34
- Quote - Ryster092 said @ #11.15744.16384 is the build number, 061003-1945 is the compile date and time.
So it was compiled at 6:10:03 AM in 1945? =P Silly "out of order" dates, course I always though dates should be written that way all through middleschool, but now I'm used to it being month/date/year! -
#11.3 Posted by Jugalator on 05 Oct 2006 - 00:57
- Microsoft is using the (almost) ISO standard way of writing the date, which is YYYY-MM-DD.
It's USA and a number of other countries that's using an even less standard way actually.
Over here, the national standard is the ISO standard so this suits us well. -
#11.4 Posted by M118LR on 05 Oct 2006 - 01:00
- Microsoft always goes year/month/day Thus this build was compiled yesterday the 3rd of Oct. The -1945 is the compile time in a 24hr clock 19 hours 45 minutes. The 16384 is the new compile number. This was the first compile.
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#11.5 Posted by Jugalator on 05 Oct 2006 - 01:02
- And a reason why MS may be doing it that order is that it's the most logical order to represent a date; from the most significant digits to the least. In other words, like any decimal number is written in general. It makes sorting numbers by date super easy too, far moreso than MMDDYY. And computer programs like logic.
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#12 Posted by Nose Nuggets on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:32
- /cross his fingers for sli support.
im straight SOL with my 7950 gx2. cant even install any vista without using a non sli card. -
#12.1 Posted by Ryster092 on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:35
- Why would you cross your fingers for sli support? Microsoft do not make drivers. I would suggest you uncross those fingers and go an pester nVidia for updated drivers.
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#12.2 Posted by Dazog on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:39
- Quote - Ryster092 said @ #12.1Why would you cross your fingers for sli support? Microsoft do not make drivers. I would suggest you uncross those fingers and go an pester nVidia for updated drivers.
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#12.3 Posted by Nose Nuggets on 05 Oct 2006 - 19:00
- yeah exactly, i cant even INSTALL vista with a gx2. its not a lack of performance.
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#13 Posted by :: Lyon :: on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:43
- Hm and I was reinstalling my Vista5728 yesterday night cause I changed my motherboard
Well I can always do an upgrade and not a clean install, hoping it will go fine ^^
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#14 Posted by hairbautt on 04 Oct 2006 - 23:56
- I think they might leave things like the Bootscreen, sounds, and 'true' Aero for the Retail.
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#15 Posted by beniza on 05 Oct 2006 - 00:05
- link has been removed
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#15.1 Posted by ipodman715 on 05 Oct 2006 - 00:16
- Yeah, I just noticed that too.
Download link (not up yet):
32-bit
http://download.windowsvista.com/dl/previe...CFRE_EN_DVD.iso
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#16 Posted by Shiranui on 05 Oct 2006 - 00:30
- I'm not touching this till someone confirms that the show-stopper wireless connection bug, introduced in 5728, has been rectified.
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#17 Posted by cleitondj on 05 Oct 2006 - 02:14
- download.htm has been removed :disappoin:
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#18 Posted by mircleman on 05 Oct 2006 - 04:22
- well for all the nay sayers id be more then happy to take a pic of the box where it says rc 2 v i s t a yep thats it rolls eyes at complete kids
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#18.2 Posted by Nexus- on 05 Oct 2006 - 06:40
- Quote - mircleman said @ #18well for all the nay sayers id be more then happy to take a pic of the box where it says rc 2 v i s t a yep thats it rolls eyes at complete kids
Do it or dont open your mouth. If your going to boast that you could take a picture of the box then do it instead of showing off. dont offer proof unless your going to actually do it.
kthnksbye
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#19 Posted by mircleman on 05 Oct 2006 - 04:29
- oh almost forgot.....oh my god someone actually has something before neowin members heard about it nooooooooo cant be he must be lying... uhhh no im not Again I do work for alot of companies and I get things before others not a long time before but i do and I appreciate it hell i don't care who got it first i haven't even installed it. so no big deal to me. but again just because you or any others on neowin don't know about it doesn't mean anything actually couple hundred of us got the rc 2 disk before it became open for download so please stop with ohhhh there goes mircleman again rolls eyes im too old for such nonsense games I come here to read news and sometimes comment if you don't like it or agree oh well.....enough said
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#19.1 Posted by Mutiny32 on 05 Oct 2006 - 04:33
- Unless you can time travel. Like I said, it was built at 7:45 pm, October 3rd, 2006. So if, a week ago, you hopped into your DeLorean with the Mr. Fusion and jetted your ass 88 Mph and a week into the future, you don't have it.
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#19.2 Posted by lmk on 05 Oct 2006 - 06:19
- Quote - Mutiny32 said @ #19.1Unless you can time travel. Like I said, it was built at 7:45 pm, October 3rd, 2006. So if, a week ago, you hopped into your DeLorean with the Mr. Fusion and jetted your ass 88 Mph and a week into the future, you don't have it.
hahaha, ah...memories...anyone think that, although the cpp would be 'random' selected individuals, others could just download it directly anyways from the link(s)?
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#19.4 Posted by Tom W on 05 Oct 2006 - 06:41
- Quote - Mutiny32 said @ #19.1Unless you can time travel. Like I said, it was built at 7:45 pm, October 3rd, 2006. So if, a week ago, you hopped into your DeLorean with the Mr. Fusion and jetted your ass 88 Mph and a week into the future, you don't have it.
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#19.5 Posted by Nexus- on 05 Oct 2006 - 06:44
- Quote - mircleman said @ #1if you don't like it or agree oh well.....enough saidIts not oh well. You sir are a liar unless your willing to prove it which you cant, because you continue to shoot your mouth without actually doing anything real. Proves your immature, childish and a liar. And its not oh well because we dont have to like it or have to like you. Your the one who has to present yourself in a respecable and adult manner on the internet to be appreciated. If you act lame your going to be treated as such. No one owes you respect when you come to the internet. You start off at zero and have to earn it.
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#19.6 Posted by Chicane-UK on 05 Oct 2006 - 07:31
- "oh almost forgot.....oh my god someone actually has something before neowin members heard about it nooooooooo cant be he must be lying... uhhh no im not Again I do work for alot of companies and I get things before others not a long time before but i do and I appreciate it hell i don't care who got it first i haven't even installed it. so no big deal to me. but again just because you or any others on neowin don't know about it doesn't mean anything actually couple hundred of us got the rc 2 disk before it became open for download so please stop with ohhhh there goes mircleman again rolls eyes im too old for such nonsense games I come here to read news and sometimes comment if you don't like it or agree oh well.....enough said"
Where DO weird people like you come from! As everyone has pointed out, RC2 was compiled / built two nights ago. Therefore you didn't have it a week ago. Everyone has already pointed out that you're making a fool of yourself - quit whilst you're ahead! -
#19.7 Posted by Tom W on 05 Oct 2006 - 07:53
- Quote - Nexus- said @ #19.5Quote - mircleman said @ #1if you don't like it or agree oh well.....enough saidIts not oh well. You sir are a liar unless your willing to prove it which you cant, because you continue to shoot your mouth without actually doing anything real. Proves your immature, childish and a liar. And its not oh well because we dont have to like it or have to like you. Your the one who has to present yourself in a respecable and adult manner on the internet to be appreciated. If you act lame your going to be treated as such. No one owes you respect when you come to the internet. You start off at zero and have to earn it.
either prove it or unplug that big black cord from your computer which feeds it power and step away.
Pot calling the Kettle black? Sounds like what people say to you when you pipe on about aero diamond...! -
#19.8 Posted by excalpius on 05 Oct 2006 - 07:56
- i'm sure the miraclemoron downloaded b5728 and therefore thinks he had RC2 a week ago...when all the rest of us did, hehe.
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#19.9 Posted by Ledward on 05 Oct 2006 - 08:58
- Quote - Nexus- said @ #19.5Quote - mircleman said @ #1if you don't like it or agree oh well.....enough saidIts not oh well. You sir are a liar unless your willing to prove it which you cant, because you continue to shoot your mouth without actually doing anything real. Proves your immature, childish and a liar. And its not oh well because we dont have to like it or have to like you. Your the one who has to present yourself in a respecable and adult manner on the internet to be appreciated. If you act lame your going to be treated as such. No one owes you respect when you come to the internet. You start off at zero and have to earn it.
either prove it or unplug that big black cord from your computer which feeds it power and step away.
Though I mainly agree with you this time, I'd like to remind you that you really don't have a right to say anything... remember Aero Diamond?
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#20 Posted by chisss on 05 Oct 2006 - 16:38
- anyway... where is the link!.. what happened?
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#21 Posted by Christopher Adrian on 06 Oct 2006 - 17:29
- Est time for RC2 release? Thought MSND said 1530 but not sure what time zone Dont worry too much about RC2 ppl .... RTM is due out October 22-25th time frame.
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#22 Posted by jjames on 06 Oct 2006 - 23:17
- The download page is working now. It seems to have gone up 15 minutes ago, around 6:00 PM CST. Enjoy!!
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#23 Posted by manrico939 on 07 Oct 2006 - 13:57
- Vista RC2 64bits installed is less than 20 minutes on My AMD 939 3500+ 2 gigs of memory
on NVidia Raid ( no more drivers needed ). This is quite better than the first intallation
of beta 5342 which took 1:30hr. Only Realtek AC97 sounf drivers will need to be added.
Navigation with IE7 is improved... As a check, I got to NY Times... First attemps where painfull
with previous betas, but now, front page show completely and links to articles seem to respond.
Yet, first visit to some of my pages are still difficult.
An easy way to check Windows.... go to any shop in 3 months and try it in the store. They
will not sell it if it still has bugs.
Have a nice everybody
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#24 Posted by mircleman on 07 Oct 2006 - 17:13
- sorry it took me so long to respond IVe been busy. In any event couple points here. first off I dont give a rats a$$ if you believe me or respect or not I don't have to earn shi$$ I have plenty of respect for what I do and as a man. Im not some little 19 year old trying to impress my online buddies im too old for such silly nonsense. my last point is im going to provide the information here from the windows vista rc2 disk still unopened that i received almost 2 weeks ago now.the info is as follows......
WINDOWS VISTA
RELEASE CANDIDATE 2
CUSTOMER PREVIEW PROGRAM
TIME SENSITIVE MATERIAL
SM TRACKING #052476049-2801-0906
WAVE#20060926005
QTY 1
SKU 66C-00068
ORD 22534000080
CARTON #0000999999405250545
THIS KIT CONTAINS
INFORMATION CARD UNIQUE PRODUCT KEY
WINDOWS VISTA RC2 32 &64 BIT DVD
nOW ANYONE WHO HAS or gets the rc 2 release take a look at the back. and you'll see. so thats that.as I said i get things before others. just because it was just released on friday does not mean it was finished on Thursday actually from what i was told it had been ready for release for several weeks. . -
#24.1 Posted by TechCrazy on 09 Oct 2006 - 19:44
- Quote - mircleman said @ #24sorry it took me so long to respond IVe been busy. In any event couple points here. first off I dont give a rats a$$ if you believe me or respect or not I don't have to earn shi$$ I have plenty of respect for what I do and as a man. Im not some little 19 year old trying to impress my online buddies im too old for such silly nonsense. my last point is im going to provide the information here from the windows vista rc2 disk still unopened that i received almost 2 weeks ago now.the info is as follows......
WINDOWS VISTA
RELEASE CANDIDATE 2
CUSTOMER PREVIEW PROGRAM
TIME SENSITIVE MATERIAL
SM TRACKING #052476049-2801-0906
WAVE#20060926005
QTY 1
SKU 66C-00068
ORD 22534000080
CARTON #0000999999405250545
THIS KIT CONTAINS
INFORMATION CARD UNIQUE PRODUCT KEY
WINDOWS VISTA RC2 32 &64 BIT DVD
nOW ANYONE WHO HAS or gets the rc 2 release take a look at the back. and you'll see. so thats that.as I said i get things before others. just because it was just released on friday does not mean it was finished on Thursday actually from what i was told it had been ready for release for several weeks. .
The details you provided point to a shipment of Release Candidate 1. The SKU is identical to that of RC1, so perhaps you should look again and make sure that 2 you saw was not actually a 1 before you go tearing into people. If I didn't know better I'd say you were actually just swapping out the 1 for a 2 and hoping nobody would notice and you'd look like you really did get it before everyone else.
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#25 Posted by bmaher on 07 Oct 2006 - 20:23
- No, the fact is that the RC2 build wat built after you "got" it
Anyway, Neowin is top of google for "Vista RC2" :p
The company has a CPP for RC2 ready for the download to be distributed shortly. It's not clear exactly when RC2 will be released but rumours point towards a release this week.
The build is 5744 and is expected to be the last released to testers before RTM. Testers are hoping for the new sounds, refined aero glass and bootscreen in this build.