Windows Vista RC2 Build 5744 Released
Posted by carrions on 06 October 2006 - 21:22 · 64 comments & 34155 views
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#1 Posted by ~Greeno~ on 06 Oct 2006 - 21:23
- Bonza :]
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#2 Posted by Aahz on 06 Oct 2006 - 21:24
- *cough RC2* :p
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#3 Posted by ~Greeno~ on 06 Oct 2006 - 21:26
- Read the label
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#4 Posted by ir0nw0lf on 06 Oct 2006 - 21:34
- No RC2? Pfft, I'll pass. (official tester waiting for RC2)
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#5 Posted by fdlazarte on 06 Oct 2006 - 21:34
- on this screenshot, it shows RC2!
http://www.winsupersite.com/images/showcas...sta_5744_22.jpg
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#6 Posted by Nexx295 on 06 Oct 2006 - 21:37
- Who cares if it's RC2 or not?! The only important things are the removed bugs and performance improvement.
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#7 Posted by Co_Co on 06 Oct 2006 - 21:37
- Its labelled RC2 in the build string & the website for public download that they took down called it RC2, i don't get it
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#8 Posted by mram on 06 Oct 2006 - 21:58
- It's labelled RC2, it's announced as RC2, it's got MS posts saying it's RC2, you might want to edit the news header to call it RC2. Don't be picky...
Your source is Jim Allchin's post on Connect:
People asked for it, and here it is, Windows Vista RC2! We wanted you to be the first to get these bits; next week they’ll be available to a broader set of customers via MSDN and TechNet.
All your great feedback has helped us focus on nothing but bug fixes over the past month since RC 1 — each and every day. There are thousands of quality improvements since Windows Vista RC1. You’ll probably notice improvements in performance, application compatibility, as well as fit and finish work. We will continue improving quality until RTM. If you are an ISV, please use this build (certainly at least RC1 or later) to get certified. Visit www.innovateonvista.com for more information on logo certification.
You are integral to this creation and refinement process. We are just around the corner from RTM and shipping this great product to the world. This will be the last build made available prior to RTM, so please keep the feedback coming so we can hit the finish line. Thanks for your help in finishing the job!
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#8.1 Posted by M118LR on 06 Oct 2006 - 22:55
- It clearly states on the CPP Download page that this build has not gone through the same testing and is not up to the same standards as RC1. If it was a true RC2 wouldn't it have to go through the same testing and hold up to the same standards as RC1? 5744 is just a nether interim build with RC2 stuck on so MS can say they shipped a RC2.
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#8.2 Posted by Brandon Live on 07 Oct 2006 - 00:35
- And how would you know that?
RC2 did in fact branch from the main RTM line and revved a few times to make sure it was worthy of the RC2 label. -
#8.3 Posted by vertigosity on 07 Oct 2006 - 00:55
- Quote - Brandon Live said @ #8.2And how would you know that?
RC2 did in fact branch from the main RTM line and revved a few times to make sure it was worthy of the RC2 label.This build (5744) has a number of improvements and updates from previous builds, and has been through daily testing processes to refine quality and performance. We are making this release available for a limited time only (and only by download) in order to get broad distribution and testing in a variety of PC configurations. Please note: This build may not have the same level of support or servicing via Windows Update as RC1, and you may not be able to upgrade from this build to the final version of Windows Vista.
^I personally suspect they just search-and-replaced the text from the 5728 CPP release on the RC1 page, though, and it probably has had proper "RC"-level testing. -
#8.4 Posted by Jugalator on 07 Oct 2006 - 15:14
- If Microsoft says it's an RC2, it is an RC2. Microsoft defines which of their products are an RC or not, no one else. Maybe received less testing than RC1, but that makes sense as it's later in the cycle (less bugs should be there in the first place and less changes from build to build), and it also doesn't change the fact that it can be an RC2. I really don't get why outsiders lacking insight in the build process have problems with Microsoft's naming on this one.
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#9 Posted by IbSta on 06 Oct 2006 - 22:01
- Anything new on MSDN?
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#11 Posted by Express on 06 Oct 2006 - 22:05
- Already installed!!
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#12 Posted by felixml on 06 Oct 2006 - 22:06
- MSDN - nothing, and is NOT expected.
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#13 Posted by colinbo on 06 Oct 2006 - 22:17
- "...next week they’ll be available to a broader set of customers via MSDN and TechNet."
Too bad that we'll have to wait that long. I've got a long weekend ahead of me perfect for reloading the laptop while doing other things.
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#14 Posted by Durfman on 06 Oct 2006 - 22:17
- They obviously cut & pasted from Connect, since on Connect it incorrectly says "Windows Vista RC1 (5744-16384) is here!" under the New Content section.
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#15 Posted by cleitondj on 06 Oct 2006 - 22:24
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#16 Posted by Neobond on 06 Oct 2006 - 22:46
- People who request torrents or direct download links in order to get Windows Vista RC2 will face restrictions and warnings on their account.
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#16.3 Posted by roadwarrior on 07 Oct 2006 - 03:25
- How about the ones here:
http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc2/en/download.htm
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#17 Posted by obsolete_power on 06 Oct 2006 - 22:56
- I will just wait until RTM is released on Connect and I'll get it then...unless there are substantial changes in this build over last one, there isn't really a reason to use up bandwidth for it!
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#17.1 Posted by Scary674 on 06 Oct 2006 - 23:02
- Quote - obsolete_power said @ #17I will just wait until RTM is released on Connect and I'll get it then...unless there are substantial changes in this build over last one, there isn't really a reason to use up bandwidth for it!
sorry but i think u will never see a rtm on connect. when overall al last test build but never the rtm version!
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#18 Posted by Croquant on 06 Oct 2006 - 22:59
- The only question now is: Will they do a RC3 or will they proceed to RTM?
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#19 Posted by Jeev on 06 Oct 2006 - 23:04
- There won't be an external RC3... and i really doubt another build will make it to general beta testers. Though, we may see a few more builds being released to TAP members.
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#20 Posted by briango on 06 Oct 2006 - 23:05
- Does anyone know if a RC1 product key works with this?
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#21 Posted by SimFreaker3243 on 06 Oct 2006 - 23:14
- CPP is working.
Link
Vista Beta Forum Thread
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#22 Posted by Mikee4fun on 06 Oct 2006 - 23:15
- Public can get it now, you just have to manipulate the rc1 to rc2, but it is going slow at 90kb/sec :p
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#23 Posted by gizbug on 06 Oct 2006 - 23:15
- http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc2/en/download.htm
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#24 Posted by phiberoptik on 06 Oct 2006 - 23:16
- Official Link - http://download.windowsvista.com/dl/previe...cfre_en_dvd.iso
http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc2/en/download.htm
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#25 Posted by sajtion on 06 Oct 2006 - 23:38
- it runs worse then rc1 for some strange reason but i believe this can not be final look for windows vista. microsoft if hiding final vista user interface for later
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#25.2 Posted by Rivernet1 on 09 Oct 2006 - 01:54
- Quote - sajtion said @ #25it runs worse then rc1 for some strange reason but i believe this can not be final look for windows vista. microsoft if hiding final vista user interface for later
I did a fresh install of RC1 and the install was fast. Something like 17 minutes? I'm very impressed. All in all the OS is running better than the Beta build. Nero (Ok, Windows) says that, Nero has a compatability issue. I still ran it - the only difference I saw was, my 24x driver burns at 8x max. Firmware update should take care of that, I'm sure.
Another thing I noticed that, unless I have my Wifi router broadcast its' SSID, Vista gives me a "Limited Connectivity", when I enable it (SSID) all is fine. Sent a bug report on this. Anyone having the same issue w/ this?
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#26 Posted by Blaine on 06 Oct 2006 - 23:39
- is the x64 link up yet?
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#27 Posted by SHoTTa35 on 06 Oct 2006 - 23:44
- Nice nice... thank you! I have RC1 on my laptop (actually 5728 but RC1 was before it) and it runs great... can't wait to see how nice Vista RC2 will be on here now since they say it's all about performance enhancement. This is definitely gonna be sweet!
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#28 Posted by Elite_graphix on 06 Oct 2006 - 23:57
- http://download.windowsvista.com/preview/rc2/en/download.htm
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#29 Posted by RGSPro on 07 Oct 2006 - 00:36
- where is the x64 linkie?
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#30 Posted by wtaag on 07 Oct 2006 - 00:43
- Nice work on getting the links guys.
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#31 Posted by Spik3balloon on 07 Oct 2006 - 02:03
- x64:
http://download.windowsvista.com/dl/previe...xFRE_EN_DVD.iso
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#32 Posted by Xerxes on 07 Oct 2006 - 04:44
- Sounds good and all, but how much of an improvement over RC-1 is it? does this one actually have a boot screen rather then the blank screen with the progress bar? anything new in it?
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#33 Posted by xUnix on 07 Oct 2006 - 04:49
- Crap Nvidia drivers on this version... giving me an error 43..... When you think they cannot screw anymore
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#34 Posted by Rfire on 07 Oct 2006 - 05:35
- Also getting Code 43 error with an ATi card... I don't have much faith that this will get fixed. I filed a bug report the past 3 CPP builds and still no dice.
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#34.1 Posted by Mykul on 15 Nov 2006 - 10:01
- Quote - Rfire said @ #34Also getting Code 43 error with an ATi card... I don't have much faith that this will get fixed. I filed a bug report the past 3 CPP builds and still no dice.
Those of you who are getting error 43 with your video card might want to check your SMbus drivers....
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#35 Posted by Hak Foo on 07 Oct 2006 - 06:57
- It's peppier and seems to use a bit less memory (about 45% of a gig at idle versus about 55% with 572
But support-wise, it's not even close to RC2 material-- it's mid-beta material.
One out of three updates didn't work.
The RealTek HD Audio drivers available for download cause it to pop up a "something's wrong" box, and the pack-in ones, while perhaps more stable, are fundamentally broken (you can't control individual inputs, like to say, turn the CD audio or line in up)
A sensible approach IMO would be a "freeze" of the final release 3 to 6 months prior to putting it on sale, so third parties can get their act together and the product is ready for delivery.
It's not a Linux distribution being maintained as a hobby. It's a fairly expensive commercial productr being backed by the world's largest software house. I'd expect commercial-quality compatibility. If necessary, I expect Microsoft to buy racks of obscure scanners, printers, and sound cards off ebay and write the damn drivers themselves! -
#35.1 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 07 Oct 2006 - 13:31
- Quote - Hak Foo said @ #1A sensible approach IMO would be a "freeze" of the final release 3 to 6 months prior to putting it on sale, so third parties can get their act together and the product is ready for delivery.
Sadly I don't think it would have any effect. Most hardware developers are just lazy and only support a new version of Windows when it is required for continued business. Only after Win2000 had some momentum behind it did drivers start to get released for it and even then it was pretty slow - I imagine it will be quicker for Vista because it is a consumer product and that is where the most money is. All the extra time would do is allow a few decent developers to improve support and allow pirates to run the leaked version long before paying customers.
My soundcard (EMU 1820M) still doesn't have any drivers for Vista and there is no timeframe. I also imagine half the scanners and modems out there will also stop working, as there was a similar problem with XP. Ah well, it's not really Microsoft's fault.
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#36 Posted by TheDarkKnight on 07 Oct 2006 - 08:14
- Does anybody know if the new maximized titlebar has made it into this build?
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#37 Posted by narakalex on 07 Oct 2006 - 08:28
- Does anybody know when WinPE for Vista will be made available?
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#38 Posted by dfua on 07 Oct 2006 - 11:08
- Error 43 fixed in this build for me on my laptop with an ati card!
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#39 Posted by Troll on 07 Oct 2006 - 14:48
- Nice, maxing out my 8mbit connection only 30 min to go - guess I missed the rush yesterday.
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#40 Posted by *Bobby*Digital* on 07 Oct 2006 - 18:02
- OMG this is the fastest download of anything I've ever had... I'm literally getting 1Mb/second on my Shaw cable connection...
Guess it's a good thing to wait till the day after :p
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#41 Posted by Ikkath on 08 Oct 2006 - 02:01
- Stupid thing just came down all fine and dandy but the ISO could not be verified...
*re-downloading*
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#42 Posted by frogworm on 08 Oct 2006 - 02:31
- the installer was super fast on my laptop, it took about 20-25 minutes.
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#43 Posted by Rivernet1 on 09 Oct 2006 - 01:47
- It was stated that on the website it will say "RC1", but when I go to install it, it still says "RC1" - This is RC2, right??
On the connect website it says: Windows Vista RC1 (5744-16384) is here!
Jim Allchin's post on Connect:
People asked for it, and here it is, Windows Vista RC2! We wanted you to be the first to get these bits; next week they’ll be available to a broader set of customers via MSDN and TechNet.
All your great feedback has helped us focus on nothing but bug fixes over the past month since RC 1 — each and every day. There are thousands of quality improvements since Windows Vista RC1. You’ll probably notice improvements in performance, application compatibility, as well as fit and finish work. We will continue improving quality until RTM. If you are an ISV, please use this build (certainly at least RC1 or later) to get certified. Visit www.innovateonvista.com for more information on logo certification.
You are integral to this creation and refinement process. We are just around the corner from RTM and shipping this great product to the world. This will be the last build made available prior to RTM, so please keep the feedback coming so we can hit the finish line. Thanks for your help in finishing the job!
jim - Thanks mram for the update
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