Protect DVDVideo slaps face of PC and Media Center Users
Posted by Steven Parker on 12 October 2006 - 12:53 · 29 comments & 10547 views
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#1 Posted by MioTheGreat on 12 Oct 2006 - 13:14
- What the hell would compell them to do this? Idiots.
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#1.1 Posted by guylaroche on 13 Oct 2006 - 01:37
- Probably a threesome with the RIAA, the MPAA, and Intelligence. Problem is, they forgot to send the invitation to Intelligence.....
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#2 Posted by Croquant on 12 Oct 2006 - 13:14
- I swear, these copy protection schemes just get more and more annoying. When is Hollywood gonna wake up and smell the angry consumers?
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#3 Posted by mrk on 12 Oct 2006 - 13:24
- DVD Region+CSS Free and AnyDVD will sort this out with an update no doubt.
Movie firms that do this are BUTTHOLES.
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#4 Posted by kravex on 12 Oct 2006 - 13:41
- It's like the chicken and the egg one, which comes first, the protection or the crack to get round it? There usally that close it's a blur.
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#5 Posted by gadean on 12 Oct 2006 - 13:42
- SlySoft AnyDVD is by fair the most painless solution for DVD copy protection schemes. It's what I use because the decryption is done invisibly.
The movie industry needs to learn, as does the RIAA. It's not going to end. A new copy protection scheme requires a software update - it does not stop people from copying.
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#6 Posted by RangerLG on 12 Oct 2006 - 13:49
- So to watch a legally purchased protected DVD on my laptop while I am on the road I would have to break the copy protection with AnyDVD and back it up. That makes perfect sense. I'm glad those in Hollywood are such forward thinkers.
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#7 Posted by ThaCrip on 12 Oct 2006 - 13:50
- yeah anydvd will continue to bypass there crappy copy protections.... it's a damn shame though they took out dvd decrypter as that was by far my favorite dvd ripping program
... all they did was **** me off... but then anydvd came along and that was that 
it's also true like he said... they "ALREADY" made millions of dollars in the theaters for a movie!!! so it aint like the dvd is where the main profits come from... cause with "millions" of dollars it's like seriously... do u really "need" anymore money? (i doubt it) ... cause with millions of dollars u can pretty much buy whatever u want.
Last edited by ThaCrip on 12 Oct 2006 - 14:05
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#8 Posted by acies on 12 Oct 2006 - 14:05
- This is so incredible stupid. It has to be illegal.
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#9 Posted by Gotenks98 on 12 Oct 2006 - 14:19
- I fail to see how this stops piracy. This does nothing to stop you from ripping the movie.
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#9.1 Posted by FloatingFatMan on 12 Oct 2006 - 14:42
- Indeed.. But it certainly seems to do a lot to prevent "fair use".
Aren't there laws for that sort of thing? :p
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#10 Posted by C_Guy on 12 Oct 2006 - 15:26
- This could lead to some serious lawsuits from software and hardware comapnies because they have created and sold technology used to play DVDs and the movie studios are basically trying to make those devices useless.
It's one thing to try and stop casual copying (note: piracy will never end 100%) but when you start taking away people's own rights or limiting their *fair* and *legal* use of their computer or DVDs then you have really crossed the line.
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#11 Posted by Colin-uk on 12 Oct 2006 - 15:42
- you know the copy protection is useless when news of its defeat is in the same article lol
silly companies
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#12 Posted by Cyranthus on 12 Oct 2006 - 15:58
- cant wait for the lawsuits against MPAA to roll in on this one.
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#13 Posted by Joey L on 12 Oct 2006 - 16:00
- Can't you just play the .vob file, whos cares about the ipo file and the dvd menu.
Just download the ripped version if you really wanna watch the movie without hassle.
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#14 Posted by StepASide on 12 Oct 2006 - 16:06
- Who's the idiot behind this idea..?
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#15 Posted by neoxphuse on 12 Oct 2006 - 16:40
- This absolutely makes no sense.
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#16 Posted by daveoc64 on 12 Oct 2006 - 16:42
- Are these new discs allowed to carry the DVD Video logo? When some of the first CDs were made with copy protection on them, the record labels were not allowed to use the Compact Disc logo on them as they did not follow the standard.
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#17 Posted by Volatile on 12 Oct 2006 - 17:14
- If this does slip through the loop-hole ridden cracks, some code achiever will break the protection. Its a continuous battle, they spend all their dollars on trying to find ways to prevent it... and it just keeps coming back to bite them in the ass.
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#18 Posted by diabulos on 12 Oct 2006 - 17:54
- Will it only affect PCs (Wintelam) or will Macs suffer too? you know with that window media center rip-off they came up with recently....
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#19 Posted by C_Guy on 12 Oct 2006 - 19:55
- Now, imagine if all the time and energy spent trying to copy protect DVDs was put to better use. Maybe we could have cured world hunger!
Oh Well, at least we have new anti-piracy measures to circumvent so we can enjoy the *legal* and *fair* use of our *purchased* media.
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#20 Posted by fatboytt on 13 Oct 2006 - 04:17
- Companies spend money trying to prevent us from watching media, and in a few days it's broken for free.
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#21 Posted by Bamagrad03 on 13 Oct 2006 - 04:49
- This is similar, to the argument that we should get rid of ALL the guns...because people are killed by guns. Yeah, and 99% of guns used in crimes are gotten by illegal means anyway. Similarly, they are trying to prevent piracy, but the pirates are one step ahead. The only people they are thwarting are the avereage consumers who wouldnt know how to rip a dvd if the instructions hit them in the face. So now you have everyday Joe, who bought his legal copy for 22 bucks...and the RIAA just told him to **** off.
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#22 Posted by Unplugged on 13 Oct 2006 - 18:16
- If anything this is counter productive.
A) Person buys a DVD
B) Person enters DVD into PC
C) DVD Wont Play
D) User researches the problem and finds its due to copy protection
E) User gets ****ed and finds theres about 80 ways to crack said protection
F) User reads on and educates themselfs into how to copy DVDs
G) User Burns a copy of the DVD and sees how easy it is
H) User starts buying DVDs from Blockbuster pirating them as its so easy.
Result one more pirate = less sales.
This is almost as funny as Sonys Perminate marker trick I wonder how much they paid some gimp to come up with this one. -
#22.1 Posted by voidpharoh on 13 Oct 2006 - 23:22
- Unfortunately, I can easily see that happening to the average user. I can't see this helping prevent piracy at all, but it's very easy to understand how it could indirectly push someone to piracy.
I'll avoid buying or renting all of the DVDs protected with this. I can tolerate some of the more subtle protection methods, but this is just crossing the line.
Protect DVD-Video is a copy protection technology that will not allow playback of discs sporting the protection on a Windows PC using Windows Media Player or DirectShow. Protect DVD-Video by ProtectDisc, is basically a mechanism for mangling the IFO file that is used for menus and such on a DVD movie and have it be reported to Media Player as a zero byte file ..very clever, but also annoying.
Of course, if you just dropped coin for a Media Center OS home theater PC, the interface uses the Windows Media Player by default, so this is a major pain in the posterior, if you mistakenly purchase a movie with ProtecDisc. But not to worry, it has been defeated already by Slysoft. However, it is a sad state of affairs when we have to pay for additional software in order to use our legitimate purchases on our equipment.
"With this copy protection the film industry clearly overshot the mark", says Giancarlo Bettini, CEO at SlySoft. "The premium customer who spent a lot of money on his multimedia home cinema and who, for quality reasons, would never even consider watching anything else but an original DVD, is being slapped in the face. These customers with their shelves stuffed with rightfully acquired DVDs, can't watch their videos."
Man, I wonder if Hollywood will ever wake up and realize who is buttering their bread? The thing that is really annoying, is most of the time, these DVDs are merely pressed copies of films that already made scads of money at the box office. So this DVD version enhances an already insanely profitable project. I say it is insanely profitable, as I know of few other places where workers receive tens of millions of dollars for a few months work. Those interested can read the entire blog by visiting this link at ZDNet.