Intel to Launch Quad-Core Chips on November 13
Posted by Gerry on 15 October 2006 - 06:50 · 30 comments & 13948 views
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#1 Posted by niel19_us on 15 Oct 2006 - 07:44
- Will that mean the core 2 duo will get cheaper (finger crossing).
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#1.1 Posted by BoondockSaint on 15 Oct 2006 - 07:58
- Since the new cpu will (for now) be Xeon based, aimed at workstations/servers and high level applications, I doubt it will have any effect on desktop cpu prices. I imagine it will the horrendously expensive...
Once AMD releases the plans for their quad core chips, you will probably start seeing some lower end versions being released. How much benefit you will get on a desktop is also questionable. Not many games take advantage of dual cores, and for most 'consumer' applications, the effect will be negligible. But of course, if you like having the latest and greatest, then quad core will be awesome
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#1.2 Posted by Xerxes on 15 Oct 2006 - 09:30
- I think it's more for bragging rights then anything else (right now)
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#1.3 Posted by Yogurth on 15 Oct 2006 - 15:23
- It will be released in standard LGA775 fitting, and it will go into budget boards(965p based...no 975x budget boards yet) nicely if BIOS suports it. Few models of boards that already support Core 2 Quadro are from ASUS all of p5B models(130-200$ depends on model), All Gigabyte 965 models(dq6, ds3, ds4, s3... 130-210$
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So in response to Your question we can expect x6800 to go down significantly, as for lowr end models we shal find out soon enough. -
#1.4 Posted by PGHammer on 16 Oct 2006 - 19:44
- Quote - Yogurth said @ #1.3It will be released in standard LGA775 fitting, and it will go into budget boards(965p based...no 975x budget boards yet) nicely if BIOS suports it. Few models of boards that already support Core 2 Quadro are from ASUS all of p5B models(130-200$ depends on model), All Gigabyte 965 models(dq6, ds3, ds4, s3... 130-210$...
So in response to Your question we can expect x6800 to go down significantly, as for lowr end models we shal find out soon enough.
The lack of 975X *budget boards* is because the 965 (especially the Q965, which is SATA-only) is supposed to be *below* the 975X in the chipset pecking order. Secondly, any 975X board that takes Core 2 Duo *will* swallow Core 2 Quad (as, unlike with Core 2 Duo, there are no further VRM changes) without a burp. The interest in pairing the 965 with Core 2 Quad is so budget-builders can jump into multicore/CrossFire; however, the issue with the 965 is still going to be optical drives (specifically, a major surfeit of SATA optical drives).
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#2 Posted by hajj_3 on 15 Oct 2006 - 08:29
- thats xeon, no-ones bothered about them, we want core 2 quad!
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#2.1 Posted by Croquant on 15 Oct 2006 - 08:49
- Quote - hajj_3 said @ #2thats xeon, no-ones bothered about them, we want core 2 quad!
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#2.2 Posted by Phemo on 15 Oct 2006 - 09:36
- The amount of people waiting for the Kentsfield is quite crazy. Do that many people really have $1000/£600 to spend on a CPU? I thought CPUs of that price were for a very small target audience. Guess I was wrong.
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#3 Posted by Croquant on 15 Oct 2006 - 08:48
- Man, am I ever glad I waited.
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#4 Posted by hajj_3 on 15 Oct 2006 - 09:36
- croquant, no i mean "core 2 quad", thats the OFFICIAL name for it. ppl called it quadro before intel officially announced its name 2 weeks ago ish.
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#4.1 Posted by Octol on 15 Oct 2006 - 20:56
- You'd think that Intel would have called it the Core "4" Quad, eh?
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#4.2 Posted by rob.derosa on 15 Oct 2006 - 22:36
- Quote - Octol said @ #4.1You'd think that Intel would have called it the Core "4" Quad, eh?
well no cause the core 2 was simply the second in the line of core chips
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#5 Posted by guylaroche on 15 Oct 2006 - 11:19
- Nice!!!!
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#6 Posted by cold-peak on 15 Oct 2006 - 11:47
- hmm, i dont know, most applications still dont make best use of a Dual Core, never mind Quad Core....
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#6.2 Posted by Zhivago on 15 Oct 2006 - 14:49
- But once software developers figure out multicore support, it wont matter if you have 2, 4 or 8 cores, your performance will it improve.
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#6.3 Posted by frazell on 15 Oct 2006 - 15:15
- Since these are XEON chips targetted at businesses multiple cores ARE very useful. In business applications that run server side (which is where these chips are destined) writing multi-threaded applications were the defacto standard years ago. Organizations have been running SMP boxes for almost 10 years now.
When this makes it to the desktop we can argue the usefulness, but by time it does we should start seeing more multi-threaded stuff emerging. Once MS gets on the multi-threading bandwagon then we'll be ok too. Too many of their applications, latest inckuded, are only single threaded/core orientated.
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#6.4 Posted by DrunkenMaster on 15 Oct 2006 - 15:54
- Quote - frazell said @ #6.3When this makes it to the desktop we can argue the usefulness, but by time it does we should start seeing more multi-threaded stuff emerging. Once MS gets on the multi-threading bandwagon then we'll be ok too. Too many of their applications, latest inckuded, are only single threaded/core orientated.
My rant is done
Simple. I will lease to businesses my unused 3 cores at a flexible rate. Then I'll make up the money I've spent on the CPU. I will only use single-threaded apps on my system to make sure the other 3 are always available to make $$$$!!!
My +5 funny comment is done.
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#7 Posted by QwertyManiac on 15 Oct 2006 - 15:02
- isnt this first-Quad launch gonna be 4 MB cache instead of the 8 that comes in next year ?
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#8 Posted by CrisCr0ss on 15 Oct 2006 - 16:02
- I just want my DVD programs/games to make use of Dual core. Because it just sitting there not working makes it feel like a waste of money
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#9 Posted by cardg on 15 Oct 2006 - 16:18
- Don't forget that if the OS uses more than one cores it is already VERY VERY usefull.
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#10 Posted by Mathachew on 15 Oct 2006 - 19:58
- I wonder if Apple will update the Mac Pro with these CPUs by the time Leopard is released. I'm looking to possibly purchase one around that time.
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#10.1 Posted by Andrew Murphy on 16 Oct 2006 - 12:15
- Doubtful. They will probably release Core 2 Duo ones though
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#11 Posted by Izlude on 15 Oct 2006 - 20:47
- Introducing the new Intel Core Overkill! LOL! I wonder if the GHz myth was a myth after all? Maybe we should go back to traditional cpu upgrades?
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#12 Posted by rob.derosa on 15 Oct 2006 - 22:37
- They are aiming for 64 cores by 2010 (in New Scientist this week)
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#13 Posted by xMorpheousx416 on 16 Oct 2006 - 16:27
- Too much, too soon.
I predict that the simple fact dual core chips both AMD and Intel are still not anywhere near optimized for both CPU cores to be working full time on any software package other than your minimal encoding programs....
that four cores will hit the shelves and stay there. Go ahead and spend your money on a chip that will have three cores taking up electricity yet doing nothing...you will get two cores to do some of your work, but the other two will be twidding their thumbs until the year 2011 when new programs that were released will suddenly take advantage of dual cores.
Like Ageia, too much too soon.
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#14 Posted by freeeekyyy on 16 Oct 2006 - 23:43
- Layoffs? They were layoffs for management positions. Management that makes it more difficult to quickly come up with new technologies. Intel is a tech company, they need to be able to quickly bring to market new technology.
HP sent out invitations to the event but did not specify exact models and prices. The computers will probably use Intel's planned Xeon 5300 chip, and will be designed to run high-end applications like seismic analysis and visualization technologies from Ansys, Autodesk, Landmark Graphics, and Parametric Technology.
The launch would mean that Intel brings quad-core processors to market before AMD, a crucial win in a year when Intel has made as many headlines for its layoffs and missed earnings targets as for its technology.