Thanks Steve from bink.nu. I guess that settles that! Windows Vista is not ready to RTM next week, we'll all have to wait just a little longer after all.

Vista is not on track to be released to manufacturing on October 25, according to Jim Allchin, co-president of Microsoft's platforms and services division.

"We won't RTM (release to manufacturing) in a week," Allchin told MJ Foley on October 18. "We are in pretty good shape. And there are still months before (the January 2007) launch."

Allchin said Microsoft is looking at Vista across five categories right now to determine whether it's RTM-ready.

The five: Reliability, security, performance, driver coverage and application compatibility. While some of these categories — such as driver coverage and app compatibility — may not be as robust as many would expect in order for Vista to RTM, Microsoft looks at things a bit differently, Allchin said.

"We have to be done with Vista before the ecosystem can finish the rest," Allchin said.

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(5 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by slimy on 19 Oct 2006 - 12:24
Good. Let them keep working on it until it's perfect
Quote this comment #1.1 Posted by jasondefaoite on 19 Oct 2006 - 12:40
You'll be waiting a LONG time for that.
Quote this comment #1.2 Posted by mrmckeb on 19 Oct 2006 - 12:53
Quote - jasondefaoite said @ #1.1
You'll be waiting a LONG time for that.
Perfection is to extreme, but you have to admit that it's good to see this much testing and work being put in to any OS. It will be a stable release, thats if the driver manufacturers live up to their side of things.
PS - running BF2142 faster than I was on XP!!! (thanks to Windows ReadyDrive)
Quote this comment #1.3 Posted by Ava3ar on 19 Oct 2006 - 13:32
perfection only exists as a mathematical theory (same as 1dimension), its almost impossible to reach, and no OS will ever be perfect
Quote this comment #1.4 Posted by j0j081 on 19 Oct 2006 - 16:15
Quote - mrmckeb said @ #1.2
Quote - jasondefaoite said @ #1.1
You'll be waiting a LONG time for that.
Perfection is to extreme, but you have to admit that it's good to see this much testing and work being put in to any OS. It will be a stable release, thats if the driver manufacturers live up to their side of things.
PS - running BF2142 faster than I was on XP!!! (thanks to Windows ReadyDrive)

Are you serious about BF2142 and Windows ReadDrive or is that some kind of joke? I don't know what ReadyDrive is...
Quote this comment #1.5 Posted by mrmckeb on 19 Oct 2006 - 23:33
Quote - j0j081 said @ #1.4
Quote - mrmckeb said @ #1.2
Quote - jasondefaoite said @ #1.1
You'll be waiting a LONG time for that.
Perfection is to extreme, but you have to admit that it's good to see this much testing and work being put in to any OS. It will be a stable release, thats if the driver manufacturers live up to their side of things.
PS - running BF2142 faster than I was on XP!!! (thanks to Windows ReadyDrive)

Are you serious about BF2142 and Windows ReadDrive or is that some kind of joke? I don't know what ReadyDrive is...

Dead serious. ReadyDrive uses a USB flash drive as secondary memory. I have a 1GB drive and it helps greatly!
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by werejag on 19 Oct 2006 - 12:28
can you hear the flushing sound? yep its microsoft
Quote this comment #2.1 Posted by Smigit on 19 Oct 2006 - 13:03
I didn't hear any flushing noises?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by b0m8er on 19 Oct 2006 - 12:35
As long as I can go and pick up my copy on feb 1st I don't care when it RTMs
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by pallavsuri on 19 Oct 2006 - 12:44
hahahaha yo go ms go
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by chorpeac on 19 Oct 2006 - 12:58
Wow....wonder if the scrolling text reader on the Microsoft building is stopped or continuing?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by mohan_168 on 19 Oct 2006 - 13:04
The five: Reliability, security, performance, driver coverage and application compatibility. You will get all of these + some goodies with Vista SP1 till then use the half-baked cake.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by yakumo on 19 Oct 2006 - 13:04
yeah thanks steve

<cough read your own articles comments cough>

always wondered when I'd have the chance to say that
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by Lexcyn on 19 Oct 2006 - 13:43
Yeah, they really need to work on driver coverage.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by bigl523 on 19 Oct 2006 - 13:54
what does rtm stand for?

edit: sorry didnt read the article fully
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by Leo Natan on 19 Oct 2006 - 13:58
If it comes on time, but has many bugs, you flame MS for releasing it not ready. If they take their time to test it and remove bugs, you flame MS for not releasing it on time.
Quote this comment #10.1 Posted by werejag on 19 Oct 2006 - 19:47
if they could release without such big blantent bugs that would be a gift of the gods. but since this os has taken3 years too long to create. who cares
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #11 Posted by pcknowledge982439 on 19 Oct 2006 - 14:45
I still think its gonna RTM before/on October 25.
Quote this comment #11.1 Posted by theyarecomingforyou on 20 Oct 2006 - 05:43
More faith than Jim Allchin (Co-President, Platforms & Services Division); someone that's in the know... that's pretty delluded. I certainly wouldn't let you anywhere near my investments.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #12 Posted by IceBreakerG on 19 Oct 2006 - 15:28
RTM stands for Release to Manufacturing.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #13 Posted by superhuman on 19 Oct 2006 - 17:20
really responsible for the quality of product. Good. good.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #14 Posted by Gotenks98 on 19 Oct 2006 - 19:39
I actually came from a meeting this morning with some of vista's developers, they say it is ready for next week. I believe there is alot of confusion going on at Redmond. They are not all on the same page.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #15 Posted by excalpius on 19 Oct 2006 - 20:25
That's right, just keep rushing it...no one will notice...just keep rushing it. Sigh.

Windows Vista - Slouching towards Bethlehem

W.B Yeats

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert.

A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #16 Posted by strekship on 20 Oct 2006 - 00:52
I think they will use the lessons learned during the Vista beta cycle to avoid the same problems next time around.
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