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Office Genuine Advantage (OGA), Now Mandatory

Steven Parker   on 27 October 2006 - 14:03 · 33 comments & 26374 views

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If you don't like the mandatory anti-piracy checks that Microsoft now enforces for Windows, brace yourself. The Microsoft Office productivity and collaboration suite is about to get a similar program.

The company's Office Genuine Advantage (OGA) program will require mandatory validation of Office software starting October 27, the software vendor quietly disclosed today. After that date, any Office Online templates downloaded from within the Office 2007 Microsoft Office System applications will require validation of legitimacy.

Similarly, starting in January, users of Office Update will have to validate the legitimacy of their Office software before they can use the service, Microsoft added.

Users absolutely hated the first iteration of the Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA) program, and their protests pressured the company into revising it about a year after it launched in July 2005.

Microsoft said in a press statement that the validation process will be "quick and simple" for users. The OGA program, currently in the testing phase, is now available in 26 languages worldwide. OGA is a sibling program to WGA; both automatically check a user's version of Microsoft software to ensure it is not counterfeit or pirated.

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(6 replies) #1 AmbushAu on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:05
Microsoft Office: is that an OpenOffice.org clone?
#1.1 C_Guy on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:45
No, Open Office is a pathetic attempt to duplicate Microsoft Office, get it right.
#1.2 Fubar on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:48
Quote - C_Guy said @ #1.1
No, Open Office is a pathetic attempt to duplicate Microsoft Office, get it right.


i disagree , i find open office better and the amount of file types i can save a document as is a bonus too each to their own i suppose
#1.3 Jugalator on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:53
MS Office existed way before OpenOffice.

Why was this even asked?
#1.4 Divide Overflow on 27 Oct 2006 - 15:23
z0mg. . a joke and a stab at Microsoft? Say it isn't so! Of course Microsoft Office was produced before Open Office, but I suppose the appreciation for sarcasm is lacking here.

Open Office is a pretty decent office suite. It may not have every feature available in Office 2003/2007, but it's good enough for most uses, unless you're in desktop publishing. As for it being a pathetic attempt to duplicate Microsoft Office. . I guess it's not feasable that Open Office tries to duplicate the UI to make the transition from MS Office to Open Office easier for users. Nope, not a chance. Of course though, all hail Google Writely. Huzzah.
#1.5 Kushan on 27 Oct 2006 - 19:45
I tried to use open office once, but the silly issue of not being able to centre the page I was viewing put me off. I can't work unless the text I'm editing is centred on my screen.
#1.6 mattm591 on 27 Oct 2006 - 20:04
Well that is quite possible to do in the version I use. Maybe you were using the ol' 1 version which wasn't quite as complete an alternative.
#2 Fubar on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:07
I haven't used their office since office xp , got open office and found it much better maybe because it was free and gave it a placebo effect heh
#3 Flae_qui on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:24
MS: we have a new program to stop piracy... 3 mins later... internet: we have a new program to bypass MS new program... LOL
(1 reply) #4 nihilistphx on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:30
Doesn't it already call home when you first run it after an install? My 2003 version does that, set number of runs unless I activate over the internet...
#4.1 MrCobra on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:38
Mine doesn't call home and even if it did it's no biggie. I enrolled in a couple of classes that required Office and was able to get it from the school for $30. Acidemic versions are not affected by *GA.
(2 replies) #5 kitchenutensils on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:31
one word.... BOLLOCKS lol unlike WGA, I think this actually has some effect because office is soooo overpriced there are ridiculously high numbers of office piraters out there (myself not included of course )
#5.1 Fubar on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:33
this is true but a mate of mine who works with installing office pc's have been slowly turning people on to use open source products , like firefox , thunderbird and open office , the amount of money saved in them alone in an office is huge so he tells me heh
#5.2 vetmarkjensen on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:48
Quote - Fubar said @ #5.1
this is true but a mate of mine who works with installing office pc's have been slowly turning people on to use open source products , like firefox , thunderbird and open office , the amount of money saved in them alone in an office is huge so he tells me heh
I don't know why OO.o gets several mentions in this article (ok, i do know why, I just think it is a little off-topic).

While I am an Open Source supporter, not every business can (nor wants) to use alternatives to Microsoft's products. For many large businesses, there are features in MS Office that they can not do without.
#6 cooljerk_dv on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:36
Genuine Advantage . . meh
(4 replies) #7 C_Guy on 27 Oct 2006 - 14:46
Once again if you are a legit user, you are fine. If you are a pirate then you will either have a cry or find a way to break through it.
#7.1 lbmouse on 27 Oct 2006 - 15:01
Your comment is backwards. This type of garbage will not stop the pirates, it will be an inconvenience and create (possibly sever) hardship for legitimate users.

Microsoft has become such an anti-consumer company lately... guess they've figured they've made too much money. I for one am very glad to see OO.o, Google, and others making headway in this market. Competition will stir innovation and maybe even drag MS back into becoming consumer friendly (get rid of W/OGA, restricted licensing, embedded DRM, etc.).
#7.2 Divide Overflow on 27 Oct 2006 - 15:34
Quote - C_Guy said @ #7
Once again if you are a legit user, you are fine. If you are a pirate then you will either have a cry or find a way to break through it.


Again, this relies on what Microsoft considers a legitimate user. With Vista for instance (as we all well know), I am only a legitimate user if I only move my copy of Vista from my first machine to my second machine, and remove Vista from my first machine. If I remove Vista from my second machine and move it to a third machine I am now a "software pirate". Never mind the $400 reciept from CompUSA/BestBuy/Newegg etc. I am a pirate. Is this bullshit going to spill over to Microsoft Office? Microsoft has shown now that once they implement a way to enforce it, they will create policy to restrict their users in such a way as to necessitate repurchasing software a customer already owns. Software Assurance for the enthusiast. Some people saw this coming, and I myself was one of those who defended Microsoft with the same argument you're using. If you're legal, what are you worried about? Well Vista's EULA puts into words the exact concerns that some people had over WGA originally. It's a safe bet that Office 2007, or some version in the future will be followed with the same type of non transferrable license.
#7.3 jerzdawg on 27 Oct 2006 - 15:36
Quote - lbmouse said @ #7.1
Your comment is backwards. This type of garbage will not stop the pirates, it will be an inconvenience and create (possibly sever) hardship for legitimate users.

Microsoft has become such an anti-consumer company lately... guess they've figured they've made too much money. I for one am very glad to see OO.o, Google, and others making headway in this market. Competition will stir innovation and maybe even drag MS back into becoming consumer friendly (get rid of W/OGA, restricted licensing, embedded DRM, etc.).

O please... I do not think it is possible for more people to pirate MS Office..... go take a look at your local torrent site and see how many people are seeding/leaching Office 2003.... and before that it was Office XP... they all had a version which did not include a WGA/OGA and people went crazy... EVERYONE i knew had Office 2003 Pro ... and I cant imagine anyone paid the full $400 or whatever it costs these days....
#7.4 +Octol on 27 Oct 2006 - 19:44
"Again, this relies on what Microsoft considers a legitimate user. With Vista for instance (as we all well know), I am only a legitimate user if I only move my copy of Vista from my first machine to my second machine, and remove Vista from my first machine. If I remove Vista from my second machine and move it to a third machine I am now a 'software pirate'."

Don't believe everything you read as soon you read it. The single Vista re-validation story is BS.

With Vista you'll get ten validations; and if you have a legitimate reason for more than ten, you call Microsoft and they'll give you ten more. There's no way you'll use up that many validations over the life of the OS.
#8 thagame on 27 Oct 2006 - 15:09
its fine by me im not poor so i buy my stuff and wga has never gone bad for me so i doubt oga will.
#9 Simon Thulbourn on 27 Oct 2006 - 15:24
Wow, this is good news, it will give all those crackers something to do with their time.

<sarcasm>Also this is bound to work because WGA worked swimmingly for Microsoft...</sarcasm>
#10 Landlocked on 27 Oct 2006 - 16:00
I have to activate upon install to prove I'm not a DMCA criminal.

I have to prove my innocence again just to plug their programming bugs and security holes.

I get the warm fuzzies with I use MS.
#11 alister on 27 Oct 2006 - 16:58
I could care less about MS Office any more since I started using OpenOffice. I have no interest in going back to MS Office.
#12 guylaroche on 27 Oct 2006 - 17:21
Don't like it at all, but no surprise there -- except that it took them so long to implement it.
(1 reply) #13 Croquant on 27 Oct 2006 - 17:38
And so the Windows Genuine Annoyance project continues.

Everyone, switch to OpenOffice and save us from the plague that is MS Office.
#13.1 nihilistphx on 27 Oct 2006 - 17:49
No OneNote in OpenOffice, so I won't switch to that yet. I find 2003 to be near perfect for what I use, what's the big deal about taking a moment to prove your legit copy of Office is legit? They don't require blood from what I understand.
#14 MazX_Napalm on 27 Oct 2006 - 18:29
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Microsoft said in a press statement that the validation process will be "quick and simple" for users.

Yeh, right. Pull the other one MS.

One thing that MS has almost got right is a feature of Vista VL. The corp server runs its own "WGA/OGA". You buy 100 Office licenses and your server "xGA" is updated. As clients connect so the licenses are ticked off.

Autodesk got it right years ago with their Network Licenses. You install say AutoCAD on 200 computers, but you only have 50 licenses. The first 50 clients to open the app get licenses. As they close the app, log off or become inactive, so the licenses are returned to the pool. You can also make the licenses "portable" so that laptop users can take the license with them when they disconnect from the lan.

One thing that is going to be a problem with OGA and is a current problem with WGA is that MS does not realise (or just doesn't care) that there is a seizable portion of computer users that have no internet connection.
#15 +Octol on 27 Oct 2006 - 19:34
I don't have any problem with validation. I am, however, sorely annoyed that every time I download specified items for Windows I have to go through the validation process again. Even if a download fails after validation and I restart the download two minutes later, I have to validate again. On this one I have to agree with the label Genuine Annoyance.
#16 powowcow on 27 Oct 2006 - 20:56
Does this apply to Office 2003 or 2007 only? I see no mention of 2003
#17 SoupDragon on 28 Oct 2006 - 00:07
As with WGA (sic) ... and indeed any security based authentication: If a knot can be tied, it can be untied given time.

Not the way to go, it alienates those without net connections and is ultimately a lost cause.



#18 +shirike on 28 Oct 2006 - 07:33
I had no problems with WGA and i have full confidence that OGA will be as smooth and seamless as WGA.

Office is expensive but I believe it is worth every penny. Especially for large scale deployment.
#19 Angel Blue01 on 28 Oct 2006 - 12:29
It doesnt effect Office 2000 so its meaningless.

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