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This flaw exists only on older systems pre-2003. Oh, and don't be a troll.

Yes, because it is so mature to gloat over an exploit.

Troll.

LMAO I think that's a hilarious comment, personally. When Windows/IE has a flaw, all that Linux/Mac/FF fanboys are all over it. But when it's a Mac?

CAN YOU SAY "DOUBLE STANDARD"?

You also didn't get the Microsoft is bad memo, eh?

Anyone that does that is also a troll.
I, for one, have certainly never done so.

I think that the difference here is between a "fanboy" of a platform, versus a "hateboy" of a platform. The one who hates is filled with negative vibes (bad for karma, btw). I am not a Mac fan. I prefer Linux. But such immature behavior (against any platform) is reprehensible.

Was your point that "other people do it, so it is OK to troll?", or that "other platforms are filled with trolls, as that is what makes up their user base". Is that what you mean by your overly-emphasised comment?

I don't think it was a troll post, I think it's valid. Look at the posts on Neowin. If an IE or Windows flaw comes up, Mac and Linux fanbois (among others, and fangirls too) sing and dance about how great it is to not be running Microsoft products. Yet, when an Apple flaw is discovered, they still praise Apple like it's God.

If you expect Neowinians to behave maturely when an Apple flaw is posted, you should also demand the same behaviour from the community when Microsoft and others flaws are posted. Otherwise, Guy is 100% right, it's a double standard.

Not only that, but the Mac community seems to have an attitude of invincibility and it's nice to have posts like this that help bring the Apple mentality back on equal ground.

You are right. "hehehahahahaha" is a great post.

When I modded here, I busted more *nix trolls than any other kind. "Double Standard"? Bullcrap.

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Let's be honest here, DK and CGuy.
Regardless of how people act, you should not generalize all users of a certain platform that way (as certainly not all, in fact, probably a minority of us Mac users troll. The same goes for any platform).

But in this case, do you see anyone praising Apple here for a problem in their driver? Hmm, nope, not seeing it. The generalizations you brought in about "invicinbile-feeling", "defensive" mac fanboys isn't applicable. That's from somehwere else and a stereotype.

However, take a look at DK. Just laughing at the vulnerabilities with macs now,eh? Last I chcked the year is nearly 2007, not '03 but if you're still living in the past, tough luck. I know there are people who use older hardware but his comment clearly reflects his ignorance on the issue. Mark Jensen is not using a double standard. He simply pointed out the problems in DK's argument.

Of course, in a thread where an IE/Mic explot is found, if mac users are trolling, then they are at fault. But that's not here so don't bring it up. Besides, in such a situation, wouldnt Windows users defend Microsoft? So why can't Mac users defend Mac (on top of that, like I said, no one defended mac, we acknowledged thef ault but mentioned how its an old one).

None of us are trolling except DK. CGuy, don't defend him. You're all entitled to your opinions but seriously, if you cant discuss things intelligently, then shut up.

Very true. This is an exploit akin to one that would affect pre-SP1 WinXP systems. It's not relevant to many users. And even to those that it is relevant to, I highly doubt they'll even be affected.

While I don't disagree with you at all, try to avoid posting this like this. As mac users, we come under criticism for making remarks such as these (which although Windows users make them too, they like to point out of "fanboyish" or "defensive" we are being).

Take the higher path. Let them think what they want to and don't retaliate to their remarks. Soon they will find they can no longer call us fanboys when it isi they in fact who are overly defensive for their platform.

It doesn't concern us. We have the better computers, its a fact, no need to throw it in their faces.

Who are you callin' a fanboy? Your post looks worse than mine.

I use both platforms on a day to day basis, I know Windows OSes and Mac OSes inside and out. I don't hail from a specific camp I just use what I need when I need it.

The trolling, be it Microsofties or Macites, is what I detest. Both sides are equally guilty.

As for what I said, I said it and meant it. Sarcasm is my only defense against stupidity.