Windows Vista Enterprise Edition appears on Select

#1 b0m8er on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:11

Woootttt!!!!

(2 replies) #2 Computer Guru on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:11

where does it "appear"?
MSDN? TechNet? Connect? TAP?

#2.1 Tom W on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:14

Select. I did put that in the article....

#2.2 Computer Guru on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:23

Quote - Tom W said @ #2.1

Select. I did put that in the article....

Ah, i thought that was select as in special... it's not capitalized

(2 replies) #3 +AltecXP on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:20

select isnt a place, do you mean for 'select customers' as in ramdomly chosen

#3.1 Tom W on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:22

Yea it is. licensing.microsoft.com

#3.2 bmaher on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:25

the actual direct link to the select licence is: http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/programs/sel/default.mspx

To be honest, this wont actually affect many people here :p

(2 replies) #4 ibear on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:28

and see this:

Microsoft Corp. CEO Steve Ballmer will deliver an announcement during a press conference today in San Francisco.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2...nferenceMA.mspx

i guess they are announcing vista today!!!

#4.1 jphillips59 on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:43

I think this is the novell partnership annoucement that people are talking about not vista/office. that is on for the 30th in NYC

#4.2 obiwansotti on 02 Nov 2006 - 22:40

Quote - ibear said @ #4

and see this:

Microsoft Corp. CEO Steve Ballmer will deliver an announcement during a press conference today in San Francisco.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2...nferenceMA.mspx

i guess they are announcing vista today!!!

looks like it was a novell conference.

(1 reply) #5 Max™ on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:30

RTM is nigh...

#5.1 +guylaroche on 03 Nov 2006 - 13:10

And not a moment too soon.

#6 Sleeper on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:36

yup, keys for both Vista and Office 2007 are on my select agreement on the licensing site

must mean vista has went gold as they would'nt put the final pidgen in a pre rtm build?

#7 Sniper101 on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:38

Urm i have a VLK should i get the Email :s Eh even if i do im not downloading it...

I only bought a VLK as i have about 10 PC's in this House lol and i wasn't prepaired to Use Different Keys and activate them over and over again i can't keep track of My Product Keys so simple VLK

#8 Sleeper on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:44

There two type of key being issued for select customers.

Vista KMS

Key Management Service: this key will be used to enable a new service in your environment that will automatically activate Windows Vista computers. You must have a minimum of 25 Windows Vista computers connected together to use the KMS, and all computers will be required to check back to the central service twice per year to stay activated.

Vista MAK

Multiple Activation Key: this key will activate Microsoft Windows Vista through the internet or telephone, and have a limited number of activations associated with them. Computers can be activated on an individual basis or by a central computer which can activate multiple computers at a time.

(2 replies) #9 ZEROarmy on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:45

Why are they give Business customers special treatment? I would expect the demand for Vista for Business to be extremely low. I personally can't see why anyone would use Windows for anything remotely important. It's a massive OS, and there are manly complaints about it's new ways of handling security. Is there really any demand for it?

#9.1 Lamerz4391 on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:41

Quote - ZEROarmy said @ #9

and there are manly complaints about it's new ways of handling security.

Well, that's pretty sexist...

#9.2 Litespeed on 03 Nov 2006 - 03:22

Quote - Lamerz4391 said @ #1.1

Quote - ZEROarmy said @ #9

and there are manly complaints about it's new ways of handling security.

Well, that's pretty sexist...

I suspect ZeroArmy's complaints tend more toward pubescent teenager.

#10 mkrgoede on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:56

The reason that they give business customers such special treatment is that large international companies can start testing Windows Vista on there PC's. Large companies have a large testing procedure before implementing Windows Vista.

Microsoft is faster with the RTM than I thought, now let's see how the new OS will work and how fast the IT world will respond.

(4 replies) #11 rev23dev on 02 Nov 2006 - 20:59

ultimate better show up on my msdn is all i know

#11.1 admaxey on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:25

It won't... Just Vista Business for MSDN. Unless you're a member of Software Assurance... Then you'll get Vista Enterprise as well. None of the other editions of Vista (Home Basic, Home Premium, or Ultimate) will ever be posted on MSDN.

I was disappointed too, but I sort of understand why they're doing it.

#11.2 deadmonkey on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:46

Quote - admaxey said @ #11.1

It won't... Just Vista Business for MSDN. Unless you're a member of Software Assurance... Then you'll get Vista Enterprise as well. None of the other editions of Vista (Home Basic, Home Premium, or Ultimate) will ever be posted on MSDN.

I was disappointed too, but I sort of understand why they're doing it.

Not sure where you got your information but it is incorrect. MSDN will get all versions of Windows Vista with the exception of Starter Edition.

#11.3 rev23dev on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:53

Quote - deadmonkey said @ #11.2

Not sure where you got your information but it is incorrect. MSDN will get all versions of Windows Vista with the exception of Starter Edition.

oh please tell me you know that for a fact!

#11.4 deadmonkey on 02 Nov 2006 - 22:24

Quote - rev23dev said @ #11.3

Quote - deadmonkey said @ #11.2

Not sure where you got your information but it is incorrect. MSDN will get all versions of Windows Vista with the exception of Starter Edition.

oh please tell me you know that for a fact!

MSDN is for developers not production therefore everything is supplied. Every version of Windows has always been supplied (except a few such as XP Starter Edition but that was because of its target customer base) on MSDN and I have received no indication this will change. If it was to change I can imagine millions of developers around the would will kick up a huge fuss about nothing being able to test their applications on all versions of Windows Vista. Imagine someone developing a multimedia application for Home Premium but not having access to Home Premium on MSDN. It ain't gonna happen.

What has changed though is how volume licenses are handled. Only Business and Enterprise versions will have VL versions. Home, Home Premium and Ultimate will all have to be activated just like retail versions. However this has been known for a while.

(3 replies) #12 Lezard on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:00

I wonder long till it hits teh black market...aka torrents

#12.1 +mad_onion on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:08

Quote - Lezard said @ #12

I wonder long till it hits teh black market...aka torrents

why you would want enteprise edition i have no idea. i want the media features that come with ultimate or home premium.

#12.2 depeschie on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:14

Quote - mad_onion said @ #12.1

Quote - Lezard said @ #12

I wonder long till it hits teh black market...aka torrents

why you would want enteprise edition i have no idea. i want the media features that come with ultimate or home premium.

i tought that the dvd image contain all vista versions? the key is the open door trough your vista version, in fact, if you get a copy of the enterprise edition you should be able to install ultimate too. if you have a key or if not in 30 days trial mode?

#12.3 Leo Natan on 03 Nov 2006 - 00:39

Quote - depeschie said @ #12.2

Quote - mad_onion said @ #12.1

Quote - Lezard said @ #12

I wonder long till it hits teh black market...aka torrents

why you would want enteprise edition i have no idea. i want the media features that come with ultimate or home premium.

i tought that the dvd image contain all vista versions? the key is the open door trough your vista version, in fact, if you get a copy of the enterprise edition you should be able to install ultimate too. if you have a key or if not in 30 days trial mode?

AFAIK, Enterprise is alone on the DVD.

#13 depeschie on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:03

give it 1-2 days for some torrents

the most interesting question is, how long for the right crack..

#14 pyro7469 on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:08

If Ballmer offically declares Vista is in fact gold, I hope that its is deployed to MSDN asap.

(3 replies) #15 depeschie on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:13

i hear that msdn subscribers get it within a week after rtm/gold?!?

#15.1 sgtLENIN on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:28

Quote - depeschie said @ #15

i hear that msdn subscribers get it within a week after rtm/gold?!?

Yeah, a week.

#15.2 redeemed on 03 Nov 2006 - 05:10

Are people who have a Technet/MSDN subscription allowed to give copies of full OS'es to friends, family, etc? Just wondering.

#15.3 dangel on 03 Nov 2006 - 13:42

Quote - redeemed said @ #15.2

Are people who have a Technet/MSDN subscription allowed to give copies of full OS'es to friends, family, etc? Just wondering.

No, it's called piracy.

#16 pyro7469 on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:27

So it was no good.

(1 reply) #17 xelencin on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:36

Wonder if anyone got the goods?

#17.1 DomZ on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:37

Exactly what I was thinking, I'd guess someone did.

(1 reply) #18 obiwansotti on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:40

In the screen shot the URL is for XP, SP2.

If they did put the iso up, they pulled it down pretty fast.

#18.1 Tom W on 02 Nov 2006 - 23:03

Yup they pulled it down quick and it went to XP SP2

(1 reply) #19 AndyJD on 02 Nov 2006 - 21:46

We have the school agreement VLK and have access to our keys for Vista and Office 2007 but the download isnt listed yet.

From what I am reading, software asurance customers can get Ultimate too? One page that mentions this is http://blogs.msdn.com/mssmallbiz/comments/869917.aspx

#19.1 +cheesegoduk on 02 Nov 2006 - 22:10

Sweet... I hope that VLK's do get ultimate as well (Also a school) as I'd like to have it on my work laptop.
I'll pick up our keys tomorrow morning

#20 boogerjones on 02 Nov 2006 - 22:17

It'll be interesting to see how the men of the deep seas go after Vista with it's ubiquitous activation.

#21 TheReaperMan on 03 Nov 2006 - 00:10

yeah , just checked my select account and there both showing(keys that is), can not wait for the download, hopfully i will be able to use ultimate

(3 replies) #22 Leo Natan on 03 Nov 2006 - 00:44

A quick question, guys...

Ultimate > Enterprise, right? Or does Enterprise contain some features that aren't in Ultimate?

#22.1 boogerjones on 03 Nov 2006 - 00:47

Ultimate contains more features than enterprise.

#22.2 Leo Natan on 03 Nov 2006 - 01:26

Quote - boogerjones said @ #22.1

Ultimate contains more features than enterprise.

Yes, but are all Enterprise features contained with Ultimate? I know all the media stuff is in, but are all the security capabilities of Ent. in as well?

#22.3 boogerjones on 03 Nov 2006 - 06:25

Yes, the Ultimate version contains all the security features of Enterprise. The only other difference that I'm aware of is that the activation methods are slightly different between the Enterprise and Ultimate versions.

(1 reply) #23 Audhumla on 03 Nov 2006 - 00:54

Hm. Some companies use unique physical USB keys as an activation component. Very difficult to fake, highly effective, easy to use.

#23.1 boogerjones on 03 Nov 2006 - 06:28

Also quite expensive. And for popular software, hardware dongles can be easily cracked. Microsoft will not ever do this.

(1 reply) #24 Joni_78 on 03 Nov 2006 - 04:41

Is Corporate less bloated than Ultimate?

#24.1 RealFduch on 03 Nov 2006 - 06:30

Starter edition is perfect for you!

(2 replies) #25 cardg on 03 Nov 2006 - 06:08

Any notices about someone having downloaded it?

#25.1 canandm on 03 Nov 2006 - 06:27

any screenshots ? new sounds ? boot screen ?

#25.2 boogerjones on 03 Nov 2006 - 06:28

Possible, but not likely. It was posted for a short time only.

#26 _dandy_ on 03 Nov 2006 - 16:50

Thing is, Vista hasn't RTMed yet, so whatever got posted, wasn't the final bits that'll end up on the installation CDs anyway.

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