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There was a pixel bug on the top right above the close button on Windows XP. I wonder if thats been fixed and why it's been updated so quickly.

Yea well, that bug is still in there in this newer build...

- Where..?

Thats the only visual bug I have seen, the two white line parts at both ends though when its first launched. Maximize it then restore it makes it go away.

That is the build I've already got. Can anyone confirm this build is actually new?

my Firewall is reporting this version as Version 11.0.5721.5146 so indeed it is an update

Whats the 'About' say then?

Thanks for the info.

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And WMP10 has more bloat than WMP9, and that has more bloat than WMP8. Why not use MP Classic if watching videos is all you need WMP for?

What in the world are you talking about? Bloatware? I don't see bloatware. WMP10 has more bloatware and crap on it than WMP11. Seriously, open up you eyes and read... You might as well downgrade your OS to Windows 1.0 because Vista will have "bloatware" according to you.

Bottom line: Think and gather facts before you comment.

100% agreed and true. I do the same thing.

Thats why I stuck with Win2k for so long, only using XP now because I have to really.

Bottom line: People get forced to use stuff they dont have to ^_^

If people are forced to use something, they also have to use it.
Makes about as much sense as most whinings about MS, I suppose.

Can't use WMP11, everytime I load it up it nags me saying older device driver not supported, everytime my PDA is synced.

I have to agree with harythewho, this is the best media player Microsoft have ever released. It so so much less bloat then version 10 or 9. It memory footprint is impressive, compared to that of itunes, which currently for me uses 200MB+ for just playing a mp3, media player 11 is currently playing a cd and is only using 5MB.

Please check your facts before making these kind of comments, I would go as far to say for me anyway that Media Player 11 is better than the hugly bloated iTunes 7.

Maybe they fixed some hidden crashers or problems like WMP11 forgetting what folders are monitored, etc.

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=64563 <--- there's alot of the info

This is what I show
MD5
B395FED8B5ACCB5D51820D90B170E3ED

CRC-32
510B2013

File Size: 24.5 MB (25,755,448 bytes)
Size on disk: 24.5 MB (25,755,648 bytes)


however, the file properties still shows version 11.0.5721.5145

Yes, I thought that too and it clearly is still.

IE7/WMP11 Final isn't available in all languages yet. Yes, you can install over previous installations.

With the minor minor note that if you're going from same version to same version but to a different language, you *do* need to uninstall WMP11 first, as otherwise the update.exe installer cannot update the language files.

So I have installed WMP11 Beta 2 PT than WMP11 Final ENG so if I uninstall WMP11 Final ENG to Install PT version whenever it cames out I'll end up with WMP11 Beta 2 PT instead of WMP10 since it rollsback to the previous version of WMP that in this case should be 11BETA2??

If you uninstall WMP11-anything you'll end up with WMP10 (or 9 if that was your previous version). At that point you can install PT and it should work fine.

That also might becasuse of the video your playing, or song your playing with a low grade of bitrate...

Last edited by Sn4k36 on 11 Nov 2006 - 18:28

That got nothing to do with the player... that's gotta do with the way the video was encoded... I had that problem since damm i think it was wmp7 or 8...

I've got the exact problem, really annoying.

No.

Thanks Zach.

What is the reason that MS very rarely publishes the "changes" list for minor updates?

Thanks for the information Zach!
Currently I am working on an application to redist. WMP 11 with a custom application. I am using InstallShield X to deploy the redist. I downloaded the wmp11-windowsxp-x86-enu.exe from the above link and added it to InstallShield as a pre-requisite. However, everytime the wmp11-windowsxp-x86-enu.exe finish, the setup package exit. If I reboot the machine and logon again, the instalaltion process resume. Looks like the return code from the WMP11 package is incorrect.

What I expect the wmp11-windowsxp-x86.enu.exe return to me is either 1641, 3010 or as suggested by MSDN 0xd2af9 (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb248465.asp, but looks like it is returning somethings else.

Could you be more exact on what reboot state it is returning in the return code?

Thanks for your help!

You should read the Windows Media Player install documents as published on MSDN. Specifically search for NS_S_REBOOT_REQUIRED - there's sample code there that shows you pretty much exactly how to handle this.

Please note that you can't "subscribe" to updates to news articles, so I never know when anyone responds to these. If you actually have a question, putting it in here is not a good plan. I pretty regularly check the microsoft.public.windowsmedia.player newsgroup and the Neowin "Software Discussion and Assistance" forum.

For anyone who stumbles upon this while desparately trying to find reboot codes - it is all a red herring, I finally found the answer. Tony in one of the previous comments pointed out we should only be testing for 1641 or 3010, however installshield will only make this check if you are installing an msi, for an exe you have to put in your own codes, and my testing indicates that the media player process does not return any consistent code to indicate this, it relies on the installer checking the registry entry (which you can't check in a pre-requisite, and you definitely can't run any C++ or scripting).

The problem is in fact that installshield setup pre-requisites will assume a reboot is required if any entries are made by the other installer into the key RunOnce (or RunOnceEx, and one other I can't remember). WMP11 installation is inserting an entry into RunOnce to install an update, so installshield is assuming a reboot is required.

Basically installshield will always assume a reboot, and it is out of our hands to override the behaviour. You will have to tell the pre-requisite to ignore reboots, then within your main installer logic check something (still not sure what) to see if the pre-requisite did just get installed, then check the registry value to see if that needed a reboot, and if so trigger that once your main installation is complete.

My advice is to avoid using setup prerequisites - I wish I had!

This is because your search creates a temporary playlist - you're playing from that list at that time.

Yeah, but it also messes up the install - if you don't use setup_wm to install (no matter which set of steps you follow, some of which are extremely stupid regardless), you break/bypass all the migration code. Hopefully none of that was important to you.

So it's cute that you feel like bragging, but it's also a) against the NeoWin TOS and b) technically a little bone-headed. *shrug*

I'm sure either:
(a.) You researched some way published by someone else to bypass WGA; if so, kudos for learning to read.
(b.) If you tried it yourself you are probably left with an unstable player. Specifically, I'm guessing you extracted it with WinRAR, ran the other .exe file, and consider yourself nifty now.

Both conclusions say you aren't nifty and if you do have such ability to have bypassed either issue, then you are so SUPER nifty that you should be asking M$ for a job.

lol.. actually i have a proper copy of XP but yeah i Rar tricked worked on a PC that isnt so.. well you know!

The jerky playback happens in both PC's, i just find VLC, Media Player classic.. out class this WMP11.. i really dont care for the build in music downlad.. the Catalogue feature just looks as poor as WMP10 was.. i have better software to sync with my Iriver.. so really @version 11 the media player part of this player is still not advanced..

Ok.. tell me this.. how can you speedup/slowdown the audio track if a video is out of sync...? VLC is ctrl+K, media player classic its +/- keys..

the WGA bit was more a LOL@Microsoft .

I don't know about the audio track thing. I don't use WMP products very often. Like you, I stick to VLC and MPC when on Windows. I usually stream everything I watch to my Xbox anyway.

On the WGA, well, it's not an LOL@Microsoft, you didn't effectively do anything, you installed a butchered version of the software, good deal, right?

No I see no difference both version are the same whether on a Genuine system or not.. theres no impact in system stability and no crashes.. maybe i've broken the DRM bit but big deal i never use DRM so dont care. perhaps the the catalogue feature is butched.. but it was rubbish in 10 and its still rubbish in 11.. maybe by v30 its might actual be usuable?

I wrote the code. I know this area better than anyone.

This is stupid. Regardless of your "hack", regardless of whether the system is genuine or not, if you don't run setup_wm.exe to install, you screw up devices and sharing. Beyond that, depending upon your bypass, you may also be 70% likely to experience data loss since you're screwing up your system configuration (that's probably the worst of the 8 severe issues (crashes, data loss) I know of that you'll run into depending upon method). That's got nothing to do with WGA/bypassing: you're just blindly breaking the installer using your method.

It is retardedly easy to bypass. It's also retarded to use that bypass. So, yay for you, great work rocket scientist, but don't mistakenly tell ANYONE that it's a good idea, because it's clearly not. You also clearly don't know what you're doing. I respect that: you're just pointing and clicking and hoping and smiling because it seems like it works, but for your own sake please don't pretend that you're an expert in this area. However... I am. So this conversation should be done now. It works, it's a very bad idea, end of story.

Peace.

(speaking for myself only as always)

you wrote the code

and my name is god

Dude, Zach D has been working on the WMP team for as long as I dare to remember.

He's actually the only developer I can think of from the WMP team who actually faces up to the public. Give the guy some respect, he's a lot less "dark side" than most of the WM people.

get your illegal copy (or much less likely, linux based) system out of here.

we know the reason u cant get a direct link

Some of us have legit copies but don't want to install the unnecessary WGA crap on our systems.

Doesn't mean the person uses an illegal copy. Many Genuine users also have issues downloading Genuine only software. I used to have that issue and it finally quit a few months back. I couldn't download anything that was Genuine only, but I could install it with no issues. It became very annoying really quick.

Before you start to accuse someone of being a software pirate, you might want to learn all the facts first. This has been an issue with many Genuine users since WGA has been around.

That's the mentality on here. If someone complains about WGA or says they have issues with it then everyone is quick to jump in a yell pirate.

I know and it's seriously getting old. I'm a genuine XP user and I've had my issues with WGA in the past. I know for a FACT that even genuine users have to sometimes use workarounds/cracks just to install something like WMP or IE7.

I just get really tired of all these people being quick to judge others without knowing the FACTS.

Some people legally own XP, but simply don't like installing WGA. Some of them see it as a privacy concern and others feel it's wrong that they pay a good little chunk of cash for something that when installed, honestly treats you like a pirate sometimes.

There are people like me who are genuine with WGA installed, but it has side effects. Like in my case I could install genuine only software. It validated my system without any issues. But if I went to download it off Microsoft, I would be seen as using a pirated copy and couldn't download anything that was genuine-only.

Then you have the people who can download genuine only stuff perfectly fine, but when they go to install it, they fail validation and installation is cancelled. This is where genuine users are sometimes forced to use a workaround/crack to install software.

Again...before you shout "ZoMG ur a PirATe 1!!!!!1!!!!1!!!" get your facts straight.

/end rant

Here yah go buddy:

//http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/9/5/0953E553-3BB6-44B1-8973-106F1B7E5049/wmp11-windowsxp-x86-enu.exe

thanx!

Let's see. First off, I guarantee one of the people that so fiercely defended themselves to my JOKING are indeed pirates of the software. Do I care? Nah. The only reason I have a legal copy of Windows on this PC (now) is because of my engineering program's MSDN subscription, so, it certainly don't bother me who's using pirated copies.

Furthermore, I've indeed been one of those guys on Linux but uses Windows much of the time and wanted to grab a piece of software as I was on Linux, since I tend to be on it for days at a time and then forget Windows things I need to d/l; it's annoying to have to reboot simply to d/l some M$ software.

So, tell me this. I JOKE about the "worst" in people (pirating), and what do I get? The assumption that I'm the "worst" for making that JOKE? None of you people even considered it was a joke. So, if I allegedly jump to conclusions about people; so do all you WGA naysayers underneath my reply, k? "Oh, he said something remotely negative about a potential WGA hater, it must contain no sarcasm and be 100% true, he thinks I'm not only a pirate but a OSX lover as well. I better defend myself!"

Have a nice day.

Don't be so quick to defend yourselves to a JOKE when you have absolutely no knowledge of someone's tone online. It only serves to make you look realllly guilty of the thing you're defending yourself against. Psych 101 people.

BTW - I'm not fond of WGA, Auto Updates, and other Windows tracking services out there either. I have them all disabled until I need to grab a piece of software or update my PC manually, etc. Nothing leaks to M$ without me allowing it for a (very) temporary session. I'm the same as many of you legit (i.e. not actually pirates) WGA naysayers.

Last edited by shade88 on 12 Nov 2006 - 15:10

thanks!

What issues? Have you contacted Microsoft support to fix them? They're very helpful.

M$ doesn't give support to non subscribers, duhhh

Or maybe, he has so much time filled up by a busy schedule that he'd rather not waste his time resolving the issue and just spend time working around the issue (like that doesn't add up), and you know...post on Neowin (like that doesn't add up even more).

Otherwise, umm...well, I cannot come up with a reason why he cannot resolve his "issue."

WGA is in the EULA for it. That makes it necessary. Bypassing the license agreement doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Using you're kind of thinking then any software that gets updated later on wouldn't be finished. Pretty much all software on the planet. Sounds to me like a typical fanboy/anti-MS post to up your post count

There's a post count for front page news?

Try this...

http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/0...sxp-x64-enu.exe

xp x64 is win2003. but there is no wmp taskbar. 2 years of waiting for nothing.

XP x64 uses a 64bit shell, so the 32bit player could never have a 64bit taskbar there.

You should be able to do this on Vista x64, though. Vista x64 should be tons better than XP x64 anyways.