Windows Vista available on Volume Licensing

#1 +NeoFlux on 16 Nov 2006 - 13:00

And so it begins.

#2 norseman on 16 Nov 2006 - 13:01

Woot

(6 replies) #3 mikejd1 on 16 Nov 2006 - 13:13

still dont understand why MSDN is the last to receive...MSDN is very $

#3.1 Yagi on 16 Nov 2006 - 13:18

I believe it's because the whole goal was to make it available to businesses first, and everyone else later. That's why the release in November for businesses, why all the released isos are business and enterprise, etc. etc. I'm pretty sure though that MSDN will get releases next, but deffinitly sure they will get it before the mass public.

#3.2 cpu killer on 16 Nov 2006 - 13:19

Sure MSDN is expensive, but money doesn't buy everything. Businesses and enterprises need Vista first, and they have a Volume License not to play around but because they need access to latest in Microsoft's offering first and in large scale. Mind you, a Volume License costs a lot more then an MSDN subscription

#3.3 bmchan on 16 Nov 2006 - 14:05

MSDN (I.e. for Developers) probably need it before the mass business or even home community in order to make the Vista experience a pleasant one for everyone else. They'll be the ones fixing applications, tweaking drivers in order for Vista to be remotely successful. What good is a new OS if your business apps won't run on it?

Quote - cpu killer said @ #3.2

Sure MSDN is expensive, but money doesn't buy everything. Businesses and enterprises need Vista first, and they have a Volume License not to play around but because they need access to latest in Microsoft's offering first and in large scale. Mind you, a Volume License costs a lot more then an MSDN subscription

#3.4 ShawnB on 16 Nov 2006 - 14:22

I'm with cpu killer on this one - my company's Select agreement cost a few million dollars this year.

#3.5 guylaroche on 16 Nov 2006 - 14:26

Quote - bmchan said @ #3.3

MSDN (I.e. for Developers) probably need it before the mass business or even home community in order to make the Vista experience a pleasant one for everyone else. They'll be the ones fixing applications, tweaking drivers in order for Vista to be remotely successful. What good is a new OS if your business apps won't run on it?

I was thinking the same thing. What good is an operating system for a business without the software you to need run on it?

#3.6 cpu killer on 16 Nov 2006 - 15:12

Quote - bmchan said @ #3.3

MSDN (I.e. for Developers) probably need it before the mass business or even home community in order to make the Vista experience a pleasant one for everyone else. They'll be the ones fixing applications, tweaking drivers in order for Vista to be remotely successful. What good is a new OS if your business apps won't run on it?

So, one week is gonna make a huge difference for MSDN developers? I'm sure the big people such as Adobe, Macromedia, AOL, Yahoo, ATi, nVidia, Intel, and the likes have had access to RTM since the day it was decided on. Thing is, VLK customers pay hundred of thousands of dollars for their agreements, they want what's latest first to get their IT staff ready in deploying the system company-wide, and planning out stuff like that takes time and dedication - having the software as soon as possible is part of the game. I can't believe getting it a week (less, right?) sooner will make such a difference for MSDN devs, you guys just wanna be proud of what you have and get everything as early as possible - 4 days can't possibly make a difference.

Microsoft values it's large enterprise and business customers, always has, always will

But I do agree on developers needing to get it early, and they will, but 4 days is just not enough time to bitch about.

(2 replies) #4 bedrock on 16 Nov 2006 - 13:41

What is Windows Vista Enterprise? And will msdn have Ultimate edition?

#4.1 ShawnB on 16 Nov 2006 - 14:24

Enterprise is Business edition + bitlocker and Application compatibility. It does not include Media Center

#4.2 cope on 16 Nov 2006 - 14:25

You can read about the different Vista editions here: http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winvista_02.asp

#5 TheReaperMan on 16 Nov 2006 - 14:11

if only i could get into mvls to download it :<

#6 renesisx on 16 Nov 2006 - 15:21

I have an MSDN VL account and it's not posted to mine yet. Still only Office 2007 and Vista RC2. We've been told it'll be there tomorrow (17th).

Vista VL is totally different to XP VL though - you need a local license key server on your network. Nowhere near as easy as XP VL where you stick in the key and good-bye activation!

#7 rseiler on 16 Nov 2006 - 15:32

And here I thought there was supposed to be one disk with Vista 32-bit, one disk with Vista 64-bit, and the rest DIFFERENTIATED BY THE KEY.

Microsoft has even said that was the case.

But here we have separate downloads for Business and Enterprise?

Bizarre.

#8 Joni_78 on 16 Nov 2006 - 15:38

Anyone got correct CRC's for any of those?

(1 reply) #9 rev23dev on 16 Nov 2006 - 15:55

hmm.. i'm kinda thinkin we're not gonna get ultimate on msdn right away. which will be stupid.

i'm waiting to rebuild my development laptop with vista ultimate, but if they just give us business or whatever i'll just stick with XP for now.

#9.1 rseiler on 16 Nov 2006 - 17:14

Quote - rev23dev said @ #9

hmm.. i'm kinda thinkin we're not gonna get ultimate on msdn right away. which will be stupid.

i'm waiting to rebuild my development laptop with vista ultimate, but if they just give us business or whatever i'll just stick with XP for now.

What? You get whatever your key is. All disks are the same, or at least they should be. Apparently in the volume licensing world it's a different story, but that's not MSDN.

#10 ffm76600 on 16 Nov 2006 - 17:35

Hi

When can I download the final vista version on MSDNAA in french ?

(1 reply) #11 Oblivion on 16 Nov 2006 - 18:41

what's the difference between these two? is this the ultimate version?

SA Win Vista Enterprise 32-bit English Disk Kit MVL DVD English
SA Win Vista Enterprise 32-bit English Disk Kit MVL DVD UPG English

#11.1 rIaHc3 on 16 Nov 2006 - 18:51

One is the complete iso while the other is just a iso to update from (possibly) Windows 95 or greater.

#12 Oblivion on 16 Nov 2006 - 18:56

enterprise is one step below the ultimate version then? is it still a 2GB plus download or has it been reduced?

#13 coth on 16 Nov 2006 - 20:19

enterprise is already leaked few days ago.

(1 reply) #14 +warwagon on 16 Nov 2006 - 22:50

I'm surprised businesses would adopt to vista so quickly

#14.1 Jugalator on 16 Nov 2006 - 23:00

Not sure if you meant to say "I'd be surprised if businesses adopted Vista quickly"?

So far I'm not seeing many who are

and I'd be really surprised if they did, given it's a major update.

Better be safe than sorry if you work on IT, or your job may be in danger.

I think most businesses will wait for SP1 or at least a few months, whichever comes first. Vista doesn't even have good driver support yet.

#15 salaku on 16 Nov 2006 - 23:39

I see it on msdn now. Downloading. Sweet

#16 tx83 on 17 Nov 2006 - 20:46

[sarcasm] Woot !! VLK (future pirated versions of windows that doesn't requires you to validate) are out !!! [/sarcasm]

#17 Spinkick on 18 Nov 2006 - 06:12

They still need a key.

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