35 days before Windows XP was officially released, a pirated key, called the "devils0wn", began circulating around the web which allowed users to run a pirated copy of the operating system. Since then, the key has been used thousands of times and is now a part of Windows XP history. Trying to follow in devils0wn's footsteps, a new crack for Windows Vista is rumored to have become available. Called "Windows Vista All Versions Activation 21.11.06", the key reportedly unlocks any version of Vista. Sounds great for pirates, right? Maybe it is, depending where you stand on software piracy.
Those who download "Windows Vista All Versions Activation 21.11.06" will end up with anything but a cracked version of Vista. The file is neither a crack nor key generator, but it is a trojan installer that installs the malware known as "Trojan-PSW.Win32.LdPinch.aze." According to APC Magazine, most antivirus scanners will recognize the trojan, but NOD32 and Norton's latest signatures do not.
While most of us dread the thought of a new piece of malware in the wild, it's hard not to like the motive behind this trojan. Nevertheless, any propagation of malware is a bad thing so I'm happy to hear that most scanners can stop this one.
News source: ArsTechnica
Those who download "Windows Vista All Versions Activation 21.11.06" will end up with anything but a cracked version of Vista. The file is neither a crack nor key generator, but it is a trojan installer that installs the malware known as "Trojan-PSW.Win32.LdPinch.aze." According to APC Magazine, most antivirus scanners will recognize the trojan, but NOD32 and Norton's latest signatures do not.
While most of us dread the thought of a new piece of malware in the wild, it's hard not to like the motive behind this trojan. Nevertheless, any propagation of malware is a bad thing so I'm happy to hear that most scanners can stop this one.
News source: ArsTechnica
Make em walk tha plank!
Look you can legally get your software or you can't. Its you problem and your money. Pirates dont affect you in any direct way ,shape, or form so you shouldn't care what a pirate does.
yea, that's true... now that all those copy protection's are out there, it's really cut down on piracy...
Look you can legally get your software or you can't. Its you problem and your money. Pirates dont affect you in any direct way ,shape, or form so you shouldn't care what a pirate does.
lmao @ the hd acronym
your right, whether or not their was piracy, starforce would still exist.............
yea, that's true... now that all those copy protection's are out there, it's really cut down on piracy...
what world are you living in.
piracy existed several decades before drm.... and somehow companies survived.. blame the truly greedy for drm etc.
yea, that's true... now that all those copy protection's are out there, it's really cut down on piracy...
what world are you living in.
Your reading of an english sentence is really really bad
Seriously though, this just shows why I have more than 1 antivirus (NOD32 and AntiVir) running side by side (with Antivir disabled besides context scanning, I don't want the engines conflicting). I scan everything I install/run with both of them since no solution is 100% perfect.
Silly n00b.
And you can go post your flamebait elsewhere.
Sorry to hear about your margins, Bill..........must really hurt you huh
You lie down with dogs, you wind up with fleas
I hope they update their signatures ASAP.
I hope they update their signatures ASAP.
And, I remember saying that there really is no "Best Anti Virus" based on things such as this (based on the newest relase of NOD.)
I haven't ran A/V for years, and never had a problem.
I've not used any, and I've never had a virus. Rarely ever do virus scans (and certainly don't have it running in the background).
As for the article -- it's suites them right. If you want it, buy it. I've said it costs too much years ago myself (and to an extent it may be), but just as you get up and go to work and want money for your work, so does Microsoft.
I've not used any, and I've never had a virus. Rarely ever do virus scans (and certainly don't have it running in the background).
As for the article -- it's suites them right. If you want it, buy it. I've said it costs too much years ago myself (and to an extent it may be), but just as you get up and go to work and want money for your work, so does Microsoft.
avoid porn sites? are you high?
I haven't ran A/V for years, and never had a problem.
I've always wondered how people who don't run AV software know they don't have a virus.
Can I see a show of hands of everyone here with NO pirated (duplicate licensed) copies of Windows? MS Office? Photshop? Or perhaps music? Everyone here paying for CDs, or buying it from whatever DRM-encumbered music service they choose? No one letting friends copy a CD or a song or two? How about copywritten images in their avatar or signatures? Posting a copywritten image (Simpsons, Dilbert, etc) on a forum or your own web page is infringement.
My avatar includes an image of Opus, from Bloom County. Do I now deserve malware?
I doubt that many here stand tall enough to mount that high horse they are riding.
Can I see a show of hands of everyone here with NO pirated (duplicate licensed) copies of Windows? MS Office? Photshop? Or perhaps music? Everyone here paying for CDs, or buying it from whatever DRM-encumbered music service they choose? No one letting friends copy a CD or a song or two? How about copywritten images in their avatar or signatures? Posting a copywritten image (Simpsons, Dilbert, etc) on a forum or your own web page is infringement.
My avatar includes an image of Opus, from Bloom County. Do I now deserve malware?
I doubt that many here stand tall enough to mount that high horse they are riding.
me mate honest
As far as my sigs/avatars go i have the permission of the creator of the monkeys to use it in my sig promoting my bf2 clan
tbh its all a crock of pooh any half brained cracker/thief would know this was a lot of codswallop and not go near it.
anyone who doesnt know and still tries to "steal" Vista gets everything they deserve, sorry but piracy ISNT a victimless crime and it ISNT acceptable. How would people like it if a stranger walks into their home and helps themselves to your collection of home dvds of your grandma talking about crocheting or helping themselves to anything in the house due to you having millions in the bank is that any more acceptable? Or thinking ahh ill just walk out of this PCWorld with this laptop as DSG (owners of PCWorld, Currys, Dixons) have millions of annual profit......errr no I didnt think so either bud.
Any OS or software I have i have paid for because i have personally felt it was worth it to me and happily paid the cost of a licence (ranging from shareware right up to OS/Office Pro).
theft is theft wether its using Winzip after 30 days trial right up to stealing a copy of XP/Vista, it is theft plain and simple, just because someone thinks "hey its just little old me doing it its not hurting anyone..." doesnt magically make it a) legal or b) acceptable.
Last edited by Mando on 06 Dec 2006 - 17:01
How many times does this have to be said before the deliberately obtuse understand it?
When someone walks into your home and helps themselves to your collection of home dvds that is depriving you of those items. When someone copies (or downloads a copy of) Vista the original is still where it was. As such it CANNOT be theft as you have not removed the item from where it was.
If you still think that not removing something but merely making a copy of it is theft then perhaps you should use a dictionary (or maybe you think that reading the words would be theft if it happened to be a friend's dictionary). The constant misuse of the word (by the pigopolists BTW and you buy into their mindset) degrades the language, which is why someone who knocks off a copy of Windows gets more time in jail than a rapist / driver who kills. Anybody who advocates such disparity of punishment is scum.
How many times does this have to be said before the deliberately obtuse understand it?
When someone walks into your home and helps themselves to your collection of home dvds that is depriving you of those items. When someone copies (or downloads a copy of) Vista the original is still where it was. As such it CANNOT be theft as you have not removed the item from where it was.
If you still think that not removing something but merely making a copy of it is theft then perhaps you should use a dictionary (or maybe you think that reading the words would be theft if it happened to be a friend's dictionary). The constant misuse of the word (by the pigopolists BTW and you buy into their mindset) degrades the language, which is why someone who knocks off a copy of Windows gets more time in jail than a rapist / driver who kills. Anybody who advocates such disparity of punishment is scum.
To begin with i am not deliberately obtuse as you put it, if its unacceptable for companys to use software unlicensed and if found out usually lose all IP rights to the design work to the owners of the software (if in Autocad the designs become property of Autodesk Inc) coupled with a hefty fine. then why is it people think that while its out of order for companies to do it, this same law/rule doesnt/shouldnt apply to private individuals? That is obtuse IMO.
You are still obtaining something you have not paid for, that is still copyright theft, you can dress it up with obtuse references or hang tinsel on it for all i care it is still THEFT. Unlawful use of a licensed product is as much theft as walking in somewhere and uplifting something that does not belong to you (e.g. you have not paid the law required payment for use of the retail product). I dont buy into their "mindset" as you so eloquantly put it its what I do professionally as an occupation and IP theft or copyright theft is stealing plain and simple go ask a lawyer
I never said that somemone who copies software deserved more time in jail than someone who commits "real" crime, here in the UK there hasnt been ANYONE served a prison term of over 12months for software theft no matter how large a scale it was (yes even people who copy pirate films and sell them on Ebay to earn £100,000s of profit do not get 25years or life for such crimes) Besides thats not the point that was being made but hey it gave you something to waffle about though didnt it. Without that and your dictionary remark your argument kind of falls flat on its face buddy.
good luck next time
–noun 1. the act of stealing; the wrongful taking and carrying away of the personal goods or property of another
what do you think you are doing when you download or copy someone elses copy of Vista? (microsofts or your aunty bettys copy) thats right your taking the property (intellectual) of Microsoft Corporation . eg T H E F T
Guess what? Vista is the property of Microsoft Corporation go read your EULA you are only paying for a licence to use Vista, you do not "own" Vista mearly a lease of the software
Last edited by Mando on 07 Dec 2006 - 11:48
It is Copyright Infringement. There is no Copyright "Theft".
Trademarks, Patents and Copyrights fall under a different set of laws than theft of say, property.
Yes, it is still wrong and illegal to infringe copyright, but it is not theft.
It is Copyright Infringement. There is no Copyright "Theft".
Trademarks, Patents and Copyrights fall under a different set of laws than theft of say, property.
Yes, it is still wrong and illegal to infringe copyright, but it is not theft.
The official body in the UK that deals with and prosecutes in conjunction with the Police force regarding copyright infringement is called FACT (Federation Against Copyright Theft)
http://www.fact-uk.org.uk/index.htm
its called copyright theft in the UK buddy
There is also its sister organisation called FAST (Federation against Software Theft)
http://www.fast.org.uk/
In hindsight it should be software theft as thats what you are actually doing.
Last edited by Mando on 07 Dec 2006 - 17:53
The official body in the UK that deals with and prosecutes in conjunction with the Police force regarding copyright infringement is called FACT (Federation Against Copyright Theft)
http://www.fact-uk.org.uk/index.htm
its called copyright theft in the UK buddy
Only by those who don't understand the language and wish to subvert it for their own uses. That includes you as the definition of theft you helpfully provided is exactly what markjensen and I have been trying to explain to you; the removal of property, meaning that if it happens, the owner doesn't have it any more. Copying an original doesn't remove the original, therefore not theft. Dumbass.
FAST are a bunch of fascists anyway who declare themselves above the law by illegally forcing audits upon companies based only on spurious evidence (such as an disgruntled ex-employee stirring it).
Sounds simple enough, but it apparently works. No need for trojans or key generators or anything of the sort. Yes, in case youre all wondering I have tried it and it does work. But I just bought a new laptop which comes with a free upgrade to Vista Home Premium, so I have no use for it anymore.
They even told us they would when that crack discussion came up.
Before anyone replies with cost, did they buy their PC without an OS? It is more likely that it was supplied with one and they now want to upgrade it. If it was a home build then buying an OEM copy of Windows with it would bring the cost down.
The OS is the one piece of software that you really should be legit with (although, I am not saying you should pirate everything else!
It is the only way that you can guarantee you will be up to date and safe.
Before anyone replies with cost, did they buy their PC without an OS? It is more likely that it was supplied with one and they now want to upgrade it. If it was a home build then buying an OEM copy of Windows with it would bring the cost down.
The OS is the one piece of software that you really should be legit with (although, I am not saying you should pirate everything else!
It is the only way that you can guarantee you will be up to date and safe.
You can't really be safe with Microsoft OS.
You can't really be safe with Microsoft OS.
You can't really be safe with ANY OS...
Before anyone replies with cost, did they buy their PC without an OS? It is more likely that it was supplied with one and they now want to upgrade it. If it was a home build then buying an OEM copy of Windows with it would bring the cost down.
The OS is the one piece of software that you really should be legit with (although, I am not saying you should pirate everything else!
It is the only way that you can guarantee you will be up to date and safe.
thats cuz you live in a place where all brand new Pc's comes with a legit copy of windows/office/AV/burning soft/etc... all the basic stuff u need nowadays... but in most cases from Mexico to Argentina, Africa, some Asian countries doesn't come with such thing; unless you buy a branded one (dell, HP, Acer, Sony...) ....
In the third world, many pple (not to say everybody) runs pirate software some doesn't know others do know but don't care... and its all about the cost of the software it self!
There should be more concern from MS and the rest of the vendor in making it affordable for this market... and dont come and say: why they dont use a free OS/Suite?... your answer will be: cuz the world runs windows...
This is all about capitalism, they want to suck your coins down no matter what!... With this im not saying i support piracy whatsoever but i would like to see some reaction from the giants. not to block pple and creating such measures to "prevent" piracy but lowering prices! <--- that would really stop piracy!
You can't really be safe with Microsoft OS.
You can't really be safe with ANY OS...
Unfortunately, thats the way pirates work.
Seriously though, only the real desperate pirates fall for things on P2P labelled "<software> crack.exe" with 10 different filesizes.
I seriously don't believe that.
I seriously don't believe that.
Believe what you will, but I went out, found it, pulled it down, and checked to see if Norton Corp (updated to latest defs) would find it on my VPC, and it ran without any issues, no popup from norton, nothing. Created a file called host.exe in the windows/system32 directory, and a file called host that contained a keylog file of anything you did. Ran avast on that, and it found it fine (called it something else, Win32
Thing is, this was released something like November 21st or so, so it really should be in the AV software defs by now.
Just because the love of your life, NOD32, doesn't stop this you don't need to come here and try and disprove a fact...
The Activation Servers will come forth to all pirate sites soon enough. Microsoft cannot stop it. These PR articles are all ridiculous wastes of time. They are just trying to convince everyone that piracy can be combated and stopped! Let's add irony to the argument!!!! Sorry, piracy will live on forever and there is nothing you can do about it.
A virus in the wild is a bad thing for everyone. Saying "Haha pirates!" means a slower internet and more spam for you.
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