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Slimy   on 05 January 2007 - 04:20 · 65 comments & 18492 views

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Daniela Cicarelli and boyfriend Tato Malzoni have sex in shallow water on a public beach. The scene is filmed. Did I mention that Cicarelli is a model and Ronaldo’s (the soccer player) ex-wife? So of course, in our day and age, the video makes its way on Youtube. It is the most viewed video in Brazil and the couple demand YouTube to take the video down. For every day it remains online, they want $116,000 in damages. It gets taken down but is reposted many times over and the suit drags on for many months. In December, a third suit is filed requesting that YouTube be shut down and the Brazilian court agrees to do so on January 3, 2007. Oh but Youtube is based in the United States. Houston, we have a problem.

News source: eWeek

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(3 replies) #1 bjc4ever on 05 Jan 2007 - 04:30
well they have a cause. no one wants their secret posted on the internet for millions to see, but having the whole site shut down for their one little video is a bit too much.
#1.1 obsolete_power on 05 Jan 2007 - 07:50
Yes but don't you see it? They are obviously jealous f-ers and they need to be shot!
#1.2 mrmckeb on 05 Jan 2007 - 11:20
Quote - (obsolete_power said @ #1.1)
Yes but don't you see it? They are obviously jealous f-ers and they need to be shot!

You are an idiot... and I don't know ho YouTube survives with all it's illegal content.
#1.3 lbmouse on 05 Jan 2007 - 14:42
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You are an idiot... and I don't know ho YouTube survives with all it's illegal content.

Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle. Because something may, or may not infringe on someone's copyright, it is not necessarily 'illegal'. IP laws swim in the judiciary waters of the civil courts, not the criminal ones. As far 'illegal' content (child porn, stolen corp secrets, etc) courts in the US have upheld that hosting companies are not necessarily responsible for the information that individual users post on their sites.

The DMCA sets the guidelines for IP and 'illegal' content in the US. If a complaint is legitimate, the Web host may take action to block or terminate access to the content that is being used unlawfully and/or violating IP law. This provides some legal immunity to hosting entities.

Until there is another precedent set or law passed, it is not the legal responsibility of Internet hosting companies to step in and play cop. Morally, IMHO, I feel that they should monitor hosted content (and many, like YouTube do), but I don't think they should have to legally. Now as far as embedded or linked-to content, that is a whole different can o' worms.
(2 replies) #2 kazzama on 05 Jan 2007 - 04:31
ROFL.. i love that end part

"Oh but Youtube is based in the United States. Houston, we have a problem."

edit: oh and also.. even if they do shutdown youtube (haha).. you can still post it on google video.. or yahoo video.. or anywhere on the net. It's not as if youtube is the only host of videos
#2.1 Skyfrog on 05 Jan 2007 - 12:24
The solution is simple, they just need to shut down the internet.
#2.2 Arcticflare on 05 Jan 2007 - 21:55
Excellent idea. Now we can finally use all those tubes for something more profitable.
#3 Sp3ctranova on 05 Jan 2007 - 04:36
D'oh!

so that's what all those "brazillan girl" spam messages in my YouTube mailbox have been about...
#4 ninjamunky on 05 Jan 2007 - 04:36
I think that there are probably legal documents, like EULA's, that the uploader's have to agree to. Therefore, YouTube would have covered it's own tail end and the user would be in trouble I'm sure it's something like that.
(3 replies) #5 +Xerxes on 05 Jan 2007 - 04:43
umm perhaps I'm missing something...but they did it in a public beach, they took a risk and got caught, sure it's was wrong of the person who taped them and uploaded to YouTube, but they did do it in a public place for all to see. I don't know what is more stupid, them filing a lawsuit against been recorded doing it in a public beach, or the fact it didn't get thrown out of court
#5.1 noroom on 05 Jan 2007 - 13:44
100% agree.
#5.2 Arcticflare on 05 Jan 2007 - 21:59
Pretty much. In a public area, you have no right to privacy since it is basically everyone's domain. These people just want money. I'm surprised the court decided in their favor.
#5.3 xpgeek on 05 Jan 2007 - 22:38
Exactly first thing I thought after reading the article, well then they shouldn't have done it on a public beach.
#6 +accesser on 05 Jan 2007 - 04:55
I did not know about this if its on youtube it will also be around other places on the internet so there is no point in shutting down youtube
(2 replies) #7 ziggie216 on 05 Jan 2007 - 05:03
gez.. maybe they shouldnt have sex on a PUBLIC BEACH if they wanted that so privately.
#7.1 ANova on 05 Jan 2007 - 06:21
Exactly, don't have sex in public and you won't get filmed. But then it doesn't seem like these two are very bright to begin with.
#7.2 C_Guy on 05 Jan 2007 - 15:21
There ya go. How can you claim damages when you knowingly do it in a public place? When you do anything in public you sort of waive your right to privacy. And even if they did have a case they should be going after the guy who filmed it. YouTube cannot control what its users post; all it can do it respond when they post something inappropriate.

Sorry, no damages, no case. Next time don't do it in public. You can't just sue because you want easy money. And it sure isn't YouTube's fault that your little video is there in the first place.
#8 dacris2000 on 05 Jan 2007 - 05:19
LOL seriously who has sex on the beach?? (unless it's the drink)
#9 perochan on 05 Jan 2007 - 05:24
another stupid law suit...
(1 reply) #10 osirisX on 05 Jan 2007 - 06:01
They aren't trying hard enough with this lawsuit! They should have demanded to have the entire internet shut down!!!
#10.1 Arcticflare on 05 Jan 2007 - 22:04
Close the tubes!
(1 reply) #11 Wolfsglen on 05 Jan 2007 - 06:24
Dont want people seeing or filming you...dont screw on a public beach in front of everyone then...duh. If it was some lowlife hack hiding in their back garden with a camera stuck through their window i could sympathize, but this is just idiocy.

Perhaps someone should sue them for public indecency/performing an obscene act in public etc. The evidence is already there

I hope they got sand in their cooters. Chafe em, baby.
#11.1 Jugalator on 05 Jan 2007 - 10:29
Yes, I find it a bit funny that they have absolutely no problem with an entire beach crowd watching them do their stuff, but if the crowd is on the Internet, it's much worse! This goes for nipslips on the Super Bowl or whatever vs topless beaches too, btw. It's no problem for even minors to see more or less naked bodies in the real world -- legally -- but it's always a problem when it's on TV or the web.
(1 reply) #12 billyea on 05 Jan 2007 - 06:52
Suing YouTube on 5 easy steps:
1) Get a boyfired/girlfriend.
2) Hire somebody to film having sex on a PUBLIC beach.
3) Have it posted on YouTube and get reposted
4) Sue YouTube for an unreasonable amount for unreasonable damages
5) Watch as you case is laughed at by everyone in America.
#12.1 Arcticflare on 05 Jan 2007 - 22:07
I was thinking they probably planned this myself. It would have been better if they had done it at home. Then their stupid case would actually mean something.
(1 reply) #13 Raa on 05 Jan 2007 - 06:57
I'm surprised nobody has said this yet...


..... Any links to the footage?? lol
#13.1 nismohasan on 05 Jan 2007 - 08:09
lol its only a search away :p
#14 Aahz on 05 Jan 2007 - 07:03
And now anyone outside of Brazil sure as hell is searching for the video...way to go idiots!
#15 BriFi on 05 Jan 2007 - 07:34
Good, shut it down! Maybe It will get people to go visit more useful sites (like neowin).
(2 replies) #16 -Hiroshi- on 05 Jan 2007 - 07:41
-sighs- The Stupidity of it all is staggering. If you didn't want the damn video to be viewed, don't record it, and ESPECIALLY, don't record it on a public beach, I mean, come on people, really now, use some god damn intelligence here..
#16.1 usadream on 05 Jan 2007 - 08:16
they didn't film it! they were filmed without knowing... slight difference! but then again, what's so bad about people seeying what u do in a public place anyway... i don't have a problem with that :-)
oh and wondering why the clip hasn't reached newsgroups yet :-/

Last edited by usadream on 05 Jan 2007 - 08:26
#16.2 Jugalator on 05 Jan 2007 - 10:33
"oh and wondering why the clip hasn't reached newsgroups yet"

I just watched some of it on Google Video but closed it out of boredom... :p
I think that's why it hasn't been posted all over the place yet.
#17 nvme on 05 Jan 2007 - 08:19
lol
#18 +Dakkaroth on 05 Jan 2007 - 08:51
What does suing YouTube do? Makes the video a hot choice to view. I've never seen it but now I want to! # of views shall now multiply!!
(1 reply) #19 MauricioBR on 05 Jan 2007 - 09:30
Cicarelli's lawyer said that YT would be shut down, but the Court denied the information.
Court said that a filter would be created and it would deny just the access to the video (don't ask me how), and not the access to YouTube.
#19.1 whistlerxp on 05 Jan 2007 - 09:50
That would just be stupid and impractical, first of all you block one video, how do you stop others uploading it? You can't. Secondly if they block YouTube entirely, what about all the other video sharing sites? Proxies? It's a stupid idea and it wont work.
#20 +Smigit on 05 Jan 2007 - 09:36
While I agree that in this case they are being absurd based on the fact they went out in public and did it and got caught it does raise some concerns over YouTubes ability or complete lack of ability to control its content. It won't be just this video, over the years and proobably already there will be many cases where videos are to be removed only to be re-added and this WILL be a major issue for the service. They really are leaving themselves open to being sued or shut down if they are incapable of catching and filtering the content that shouldnt be there.

Not only this case but the music and movies industry have their eyes on you tube already for the exact same reasons. Youtube, while a great service, really needs to ensure it can remove copyrighted content or footage that has previously been banned before people can lay their eyes on it or they are just leaving themselves open to lawsuits

And yeah I actually really like the site but thats reality.
#21 Jugalator on 05 Jan 2007 - 10:26
Suing YouTube will sure accomplish much when the Evil Google Video Empire host it too.

Just search for Daniella Cicarelli over there...

And since it has stayed on YT, that's a sign it's not offensive, and it isn't.
#22 wratho on 05 Jan 2007 - 10:33
As a brazillian i can say, i really HATE how brazillian court and government acts sometimes... we have so many things to care about like poverty and they're caring about this b*tch?! OMG!
#23 Alphanumeric on 05 Jan 2007 - 11:00
So what's the link??
#24 MAX!MUS on 05 Jan 2007 - 11:27
did the dude put seaweed in his pants or something to hide is boner in the end? LOL

search for Daniela beach sex on google.
#25 peacemf on 05 Jan 2007 - 11:34
anybody got a link?

cant find it on youtube
#26 slayer80 on 05 Jan 2007 - 11:55
It seems the idea of 'shutting down' actually means blocking brazilian access to YouTube, makes sense since it's more of a local scandal. Anyway, the video is already old news, there's not a single person here in Brazil that hasn't seen it.
(1 reply) #27 Croquant on 05 Jan 2007 - 12:06
I wish lawmakers would pull their heads out of their collective behinds and stop thinking that they can "shut down" something that's on the Internet. All they do by trying that sort of thing is to make whatever they're trying to shut down more popular and more widespread and more widely available.
#27.1 wratho on 05 Jan 2007 - 13:40
Quote - (Croquant said @ #27)
I wish lawmakers would pull their heads out of their collective behinds and stop thinking that they can "shut down" something that's on the Internet. All they do by trying that sort of thing is to make whatever they're trying to shut down more popular and more widespread and more widely available.


agreed!!
#28 cpu on 05 Jan 2007 - 12:13
I never heard before about Daniela Cicarelli and Tato Malzoni. But after I've read this, googled and found immediately the link to this video

These guys can be sure now, that more than even people will look at their ...ses
#29 StarSabers on 05 Jan 2007 - 12:55
There's no such thing as a secret ... and this proves it. The lesson: don't do something you just might regret if anyone else ever finds out about it.
#30 Aleck79 on 05 Jan 2007 - 13:10
lol

look at it this way, you are in the public eye and as such there is no assumption of privacy. Meaning someone could have swam out there really quietly and taped on his shoulder and asked him if he was having a good time.

That is why it is called a "public" beach...not "private" beach. Public implies unrestricted use...
#31 PatrynXX on 05 Jan 2007 - 14:05
Gee with allofmp3 being sued in the US courts.

This obviously will have no effect either.
#32 lerum on 05 Jan 2007 - 14:08
OMG shut down teh internets!

Seriously, is there a need to shutdown the whole site?
#33 Toastyone on 05 Jan 2007 - 14:26
They were having sex in shalow water at a PUBLIC beach rofl wtf did they think would happen?
#34 ir0nw0lf on 05 Jan 2007 - 14:45
Mrmm, that must be where global warming is coming from: all these people getting their freak on in the ocean waters, causing all that increased friction, leading to warmer waters and thus global warming. Either that or it explains how our waters are getting more polluted...
#35 ~D~ on 05 Jan 2007 - 15:09
I should sue her for that video That didn't turn me on

http://www.porkolt.com/other/daniela+cicar...h-sex-6166.html
#36 JonathanVP on 05 Jan 2007 - 15:24
Yeah...the video is sorta lame...seen better. The seaweed part at the end was pretty lame!
#37 hotdog963al on 05 Jan 2007 - 16:02
LAME.
#38 eilegz on 05 Jan 2007 - 16:21
lol wth if im not mistaken youtube dont allow ANY explicit video, not even nudity so i just wonder how can a SEX video its uploaded into it
#39 Ficman on 05 Jan 2007 - 16:30
Now this is REALLY funny....
#40 Knight85 on 05 Jan 2007 - 16:34
Now... is it just me that notices how HORRIBLY this article has been titled? The court did no such thing as ordering YouTube to shut down... they just told them to take the video off and come up with a way of permanently blocking its reappearance!!
#41 Rudi A.K on 05 Jan 2007 - 18:25
Oh yeah... Shut down YouTube!!!! Do they not know what YouTube has become??? Demanding to shut it off is like asking the US to give up all the atomic weapons they've got!
#42 Alphanumeric on 05 Jan 2007 - 21:20
That's it?? You didn't even see anything.
#43 Hills420 on 06 Jan 2007 - 00:02
crazy...
#44 Aero Ultimate on 06 Jan 2007 - 02:09
Oh my... there are *that* much clueless retards at that Brazilian court?
#45 culhupa on 06 Jan 2007 - 03:57
Stupids...
you tube will not be deactived, she only wants a filter block for her video in youtube .
#46 gliscameria on 06 Jan 2007 - 06:32
(douchebag american response)

They have electricity in Brazil?
#47 Elementfire0666 on 07 Jan 2007 - 00:45
First of all you should except full responsibilty when your on a PUBLIC!!! beach. It wasn't private property so dont think having sex their was totally secluded. Second it didn't show anything in the first place. Last I didn't know who the **** either of the two ppl were in the video when i saw it and now i see its only made the video popular by trying to sue youtube. Their only asking for ppl to watch it by making it into publicity. They must be really stupid or it either makes you wonder if they did that on purpose.

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