Vista testers get unexpected holiday gift: No TV
Posted by Michael Stanclift on 05 January 2007 - 15:45 · 16 comments & 7449 views
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#1 Posted by jordanspringer on 05 Jan 2007 - 15:57
- And why wasnt this mentioned before?
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#3 Posted by xxdesmus on 05 Jan 2007 - 16:11
- I am sorry, but who cares?
You're using old beta software (ok, technically RC1, but still old). What do you expect? Do you really expect them to support it for all that long once the beta code is long since obsolete? If you're still on RC1 then you deserve this.
This is yet another way of making sure people don't try and use beta code for a long term primary OS. -
#3.2 Posted by +guylaroche on 05 Jan 2007 - 17:26
- Why would anybody still be using RC1?
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#3.3 Posted by obsolete_power on 06 Jan 2007 - 01:23
- For the same reason some people are still using Windows 95 and Dial-up internet...
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#3.4 Posted by Dr.Jones on 06 Jan 2007 - 05:22
- Quote - (obsolete_power said @ #3.3)For the same reason some people are still using Windows 95 and Dial-up internet...
We're talking about people who went through the trouble of downloading 2-3 GB and installing a rc of an OS, and then install it and use it daily to watch TV. I don't think they're the same people with Win 9x and Dial-up -
#3.5 Posted by +rm20010 on 06 Jan 2007 - 07:50
- Quote - (xxdesmus said @ #1)I am sorry, but who cares?
You're using old beta software (ok, technically RC1, but still old). What do you expect? Do you really expect them to support it for all that long once the beta code is long since obsolete? If you're still on RC1 then you deserve this.
Oh, so those CPP customers that rely on email newsletters to be informed of Vista's progress, these same customers that were unaware RC2 was available for a very short time, these customers that aren't privileged like some spoiled brat beta users (not implying you, but to others that joined, downloaded a few test builds, then go on posting crusades on Neowin complaining Vista is so crap), these users which don't have the privilege to download the latest build of Vista OR get the RTM copy of Vista, somehow deserve this? It's not their problem they can't update their copies of RC1.
That being said, people should've thought twice before ditching their copies of MCE entirely for an evaluation version of an OS. -
#3.6 Posted by RealFduch on 06 Jan 2007 - 10:18
- Quote - (rm20010 said @ #3.5)Quote - (xxdesmus said @ #1)I am sorry, but who cares?
You're using old beta software (ok, technically RC1, but still old). What do you expect? Do you really expect them to support it for all that long once the beta code is long since obsolete? If you're still on RC1 then you deserve this.
Oh, so those CPP customers that rely on email newsletters to be informed of Vista's progress, these same customers that were unaware RC2 was available for a very short time, these customers that aren't privileged like some spoiled brat beta users (not implying you, but to others that joined, downloaded a few test builds, then go on posting crusades on Neowin complaining Vista is so crap), these users which don't have the privilege to download the latest build of Vista OR get the RTM copy of Vista, somehow deserve this? It's not their problem they can't update their copies of RC1.
That being said, people should've thought twice before ditching their copies of MCE entirely for an evaluation version of an OS.
You forgot the main point:
Dolby Digital didn't allow MS to include MPEG2 decoder that will work longer.
Are you willing to pay for RC1 beta so that it would include that decoder? If yes then just buy the decoder instead!
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#4 Posted by KarlSheldon on 05 Jan 2007 - 16:23
- Not nice ! But not a real deal, for sure there are other mpeg decoders you could install, but I don't get the whole of media centre not working because of a single coded module ? That just a making RC1 cripple ware. Will it slowly lose functionality, and go into reduced functionality mode !
Oh and MS have to licence codecs like this - hmm and developers of VLC, media player classic etc don't !
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#5 Posted by winmoose on 05 Jan 2007 - 16:27
- I demand a full refund from Microsoft. I'll be angry if I don't my hard earned £0.00 back.
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#6 Posted by +cheesegoduk on 05 Jan 2007 - 16:29
- Beta software isn't supported at all so people affected by this can cry more. Tho it is a bit dodgy to say it will work until mid 2007
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#7 Posted by Arkos Reed on 05 Jan 2007 - 16:31
- who cares, it's a RC build
even tho it's scheduled to expire via a timebomb in june, the license agreements usually state (last time I checked) that any pre release build usage rights expire when the final bits have been released
whoever complains doesn't even have the right to
and to think of it, with all the Mpeg 2 codecs MS has distributed in the past with Media Center betas, from Cyberlink and nVidia, these vendors would be ****ed if these didn't expire
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#8 Posted by ziggie216 on 05 Jan 2007 - 21:09
- it's a beta.. what did they expect. is someone going to file a lawsuit now?
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#9 Posted by zeta_immersion on 06 Jan 2007 - 20:51
- i say, put it on a stick with engraving Vista/Dolbi .. there u go, much better, get a life loosers stop using betas as main os, how dumb can u be man?
"As of December 31, 2006, users running Windows Vista RC1 beta code will no longer have access to the Media Center functionality, due to the expiration of the MPEG 2 decoder and Dolby Digital components built into Windows Vista and used by the Media Center experience," Microsoft said in a statement in response to inquiries by CNET News.com. "Because these technologies are licensed and royalty bearing, they will expire within a certain time period, according to our license agreements."
A Microsoft representative declined to comment on whether the company could have extended its license, saying it doesn't comment on the terms of such licensing deals. The representative noted that Microsoft did recommend that users not try Vista on their main machines.