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Sealand Prince Says No to PirateBay.org

Slimy   on 23 January 2007 - 03:17 · 19 comments & 5983 views

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Michael Bates, Prince and heir to Sealand, clearly stated in a CBC interview that he has no intention of selling Sealand to any organization that violates international treaties: “It’s theft of proprietary rights, it doesn’t suit us at all. In fact, I’ve written a book and Hollywood is making a movie out of it, so it would go right against the grain to go into the file sharing thing.” History tells us that Sealand did not always respect this recent announcement – it was once home to Michael’s father’s pirate radio broadcasting operation.

The estate agent hired to handle the sale of Sealand also did not agree with PirateBay.org’s dreams: “We might not be able to sell to them, since one of the conditions imposed by the actual occupants of Sealand is that none of the activities to be carried out on Sealand should be an action against the UK, and potentially this group does not comply with this condition.”

Legal online publication Out-Law consulted a Dundee University lecturer asking him what his take was on Sealand being its own sovereign nation. Professor Robin Churchill seems to have destroyed previous beliefs: “It is within 12 miles of the coast of Britain and in 1987 the UK extended its territorial waters to 12 miles. That means that UK law applies, including the law of copyright, which could be extended to Sealand without any legal problems whatsoever.”

News source: DailyTech

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(5 replies) #1 guylaroche on 23 Jan 2007 - 03:22
Wow.... So is Sealand a sovereign nation or not?
#1.1 +ispamforfood on 23 Jan 2007 - 03:50
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Wow.... So is Sealand a sovereign nation or not?


It doesn't really matter, because theres no way TPB would be able to raise the funds.... I mean, the whole reasoning behind them pirating is cuz pirates hate spending money on crappy movies and music, and now they're ready to drop 1 Billion just to trade songs and movies for free? Riiiiiiight....... this was never going to happen. its just some moronic pipe dream.
#1.2 Hak Foo on 23 Jan 2007 - 04:35
Quote - (ispamforfood said @ #1.1)
Quote - (guylaroche said @ #1)
Wow.... So is Sealand a sovereign nation or not?


It doesn't really matter, because theres no way TPB would be able to raise the funds.... I mean, the whole reasoning behind them pirating is cuz pirates hate spending money on crappy movies and music, and now they're ready to drop 1 Billion just to trade songs and movies for free? Riiiiiiight....... this was never going to happen. its just some moronic pipe dream.


Paying $1 billion once may end up cheaper than paying $xx per month per person forever.

There's also merit in it as a social experiment.

We have to study social stuff by doing. It's hard to make general theories.

Someone had to say "Hey, let's try democracy!", "Let's try socialism!", "Let's try eliminating slavery!", "Let's try national health care!", and perhaps some day "let's try no copyright!"

Honestly, I'd love to see either China or India do it. They're too big economically and militarily to ignore, trying to turn on them in the name of preserving high content prices would be political suicide, and they probably get way less out of copyright than it costs them.
#1.3 drygnfyre on 23 Jan 2007 - 08:27
Quote - (ispamforfood said @ #1.1)
Quote - (guylaroche said @ #1)
Wow.... So is Sealand a sovereign nation or not?


It doesn't really matter, because theres no way TPB would be able to raise the funds.... I mean, the whole reasoning behind them pirating is cuz pirates hate spending money on crappy movies and music, and now they're ready to drop 1 Billion just to trade songs and movies for free? Riiiiiiight....... this was never going to happen. its just some moronic pipe dream.

If anything, it was just viral marketing to raise publicity for The Pirate Bay, which it certainly did.
#1.4 XerXis on 23 Jan 2007 - 10:06
Quote - (guylaroche said @ #1)
Wow.... So is Sealand a sovereign nation or not?


sealand is not a sovereign nation and has never been, it's just a dream
#1.5 Rupert on 23 Jan 2007 - 10:38
I seriously don't see why TPB are trying to buy it when they could get some guns, ammo and a boat for a fraction of the price.
#2 billyea on 23 Jan 2007 - 03:50
float a barge out to international waters, create an internet uplink via your own satellite, and who needs sealand?
(1 reply) #3 lylesback2 on 23 Jan 2007 - 03:58
double dummer.. now UK does own sealand.. since it is inside their waters.. and sealand will not be sold to pirates...
#3.1 SweetLou on 23 Jan 2007 - 05:45
No, the UK does not own Sealand. The UK has already ruled that Sealand is a sovereign state, so expanding her territorial waters does not include Sealand. A nation cannot just expand its territorial waters and take what is now within its limits. If that was the case, then parts of the UK are actually owned by Sealand, since it also expanded its territorial waters to 12 miles.
With your thinking, the UK could expand to 1000 miles out and take, Ireland, France and other countries. That is against international law.
#4 +Nienor on 23 Jan 2007 - 05:32
Yea! Piratebay now have got all money from theses pirates for nothing!
#5 xpablo on 23 Jan 2007 - 06:24
Pirate Bay has always stated that if they could not purchase Sealand, they would look at other alternatives in getting their own country, I think the Pirate Bay is still affliated with the pirate party from Sweden in someway and this whole country thing would go beyond just hosting a site in their own country.

#6 +Berserk on 23 Jan 2007 - 06:33
BOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo SEALAND!

its not like piratebay is going to die becuase they refuse to sell sealand to them....

(1 reply) #7 obsolete_power on 23 Jan 2007 - 06:36
Oh this is just juvenile!!!! An old platform they call a country??? The prince can take this Sealand piece of crap and shove it up his arse!!!
#7.1 Z3r0 on 23 Jan 2007 - 08:13
yeah, also given the fact it was made by the British and is now in British waters, it's kind of ludicrous that they are attempting to sell it. He doesn't even live there anymore. He also used to be a pirate radio jockey... so let's not get up ourselves here.
(1 reply) #8 +NeoFlux on 23 Jan 2007 - 09:47
They can just take over sealand! Like real Pirates!
#8.1 Dwarden on 23 Jan 2007 - 12:01
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They can just take over sealand! Like real Pirates!

mercenary troops already taken once over Sealand and got theirs asses kicked out

anyawy i think it's easier to buy normal island and build all needed there or just utilize some cheap country with minimal "respect" to "west" laws
(1 reply) #9 SniperX on 23 Jan 2007 - 11:38
The very fact that they thought they could in the first place shows just how imbecilic these people are. I guess they'll have to find another way to make a mockery out of the copyright laws.
#9.1 C_Guy on 23 Jan 2007 - 15:31
Well put.
#10 Aero Ultimate on 24 Jan 2007 - 06:16
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Legal online publication Out-Law consulted a Dundee University lecturer asking him what his take was on Sealand being its own sovereign nation. Professor Robin Churchill seems to have destroyed previous beliefs: “It is within 12 miles of the coast of Britain and in 1987 the UK extended its territorial waters to 12 miles. That means that UK law applies, including the law of copyright, which could be extended to Sealand without any legal problems whatsoever.”

So Sealand isn't a souvereign country.
They obviously only did this cheap trick about the "selling" as a publicity stunt and to make some quick cash

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