Videotron testing 400% Faster Internet Service

(3 replies) #1 +acxz on 04 Feb 2007 - 19:50

How many datacenters will be able to offer those kinds of speeds? Talk about overkill.

#1.1 XerXis on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:31

Quote - (acxz said @ #1)

How many datacenters will be able to offer those kinds of speeds? Talk about overkill.

you just have no vision

#1.2 Jugalator on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:55

Who said anything about just downloading material from one site at a time?

#1.3 tonyjr on 05 Feb 2007 - 19:06

http://www.itweek.co.uk/itweek/news/217046...hernet-pipeline

(1 reply) #2 Tazz301 on 04 Feb 2007 - 19:52

i worked as an installation technician for videotron about a year ago and their network is awesome compare to rogers

but now i'm a internet subscriber for rogers and i'm disappointed with their network speed

rogers should team up with videotron and they would learn so much from them

edit: the spam (bulk) on rogers is unreal, it's really sad that someone at rogers made a quick buck selling the email list to spammers

#2.1 +DrunkenMaster on 04 Feb 2007 - 22:46

I worked for Rogers over 5 years ago. I would say the problem with their infrastucture is that they're bought out Shaw in southern Ontario. They sold all their B.C. stuff to Shaw and bought into New Brunswick and New foundland. That's a headache for one company to manage. Let alone the cable and Internet assets of both. And cell.

Plus, a lot of the old @Home legacy crap was left in the system. This was a support nightmare. I think they just made the business case that it seemed okay and that was good enough.

Plus you mix Docsis and non-Docsis systems + Sprint deal where they bought their entire Canadian network. Is that enough?

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(1 reply) #3 PsykX on 04 Feb 2007 - 19:56

OMG it will be better than my poor 10 Mbps!
I was waiting for an upgrade soon, guess I have an answer

#3.1 +Octol on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:22

Oh you poor baby!

Hell, I'd give a finger or toe for a 10Mb connection! I'm stuck here with a 1.5Mb connection with nowhere to go except down!

Count your blessings.

Of course people stuck with dialup could say the same thing to me!

Waaahh!!!!

#4 P00rSpy on 04 Feb 2007 - 19:57

This is made posible with MOCA

which is kindalike ADSL on a cable line...

http://www.mocalliance.org/en/index.asp

(2 replies) #5 xpablo on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:19

They have high speed internet in Canada ?

Actually I have Shaw's 10mbps Xtreme internet in Vancouver, I have reached peak speeds @ 11mbps, from what I hear, Shaw's 25mbps averages aprox 16mbps and costs twice as much as what I'm paying, so it's not worth it for me.

When I worked in the USA, I had TW RoadRunner and was lucky if I got 3 mbps peak.

Shaw has a pretty good network in Western Canada, but 100mbps would be great if your running a webserver from home, other than that it's overkill.

#5.1 PsykX on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:53

No, Internet doesn't even exist in Canada.

.....

What planet are you living on?
United-States aren't the only ones who have "technology"...

#5.2 C_Guy on 05 Feb 2007 - 16:18

Nope, it's all igloos and eskimos up here.

#6 RAINMAN on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:27

thats incredible. I hope someone brings even half that speed to Ontario. I can only get 1.5mbps from Bell where I am and frankly, it really sucks.

#7 rich.bradshaw on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:29

In the UK I have 8Mbps, but it comes out at around 2... I want faster internet!

#8 CoLdFuSi0n on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:36

I have 25mbps with shaw and i reach speeds about 20mbps i could live with 100mbps download ahhh.... porn yea thats it porn

#9 buzz99 on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:37

As long as it's not to cost 10 times a 10Mbps connection....

(1 reply) #10 Croquant on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:46

:moves to Montreal:

#10.1 Hankyone on 05 Feb 2007 - 05:27

:Already lives in Montreal:

(1 reply) #11 nvme on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:46

i just wish my 6mibt cable would go faster than 1mbit.. i ****ing hate you cable company

#11.1 PsykX on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:54

You can place a support call or something in that case. If you don't get what you should get, there's a problem. Or you're using a wifi router.

#12 Cephas on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:46

I still have my 3 Mbps grandfathered Bell plan, but at least it doesn't have caps like most of the new plans from Videotron and Bell.

Also Bell offers more than 5 Mbps. They launched some sort of ADSL2 or fiber network last year for consumers called Optimax (up to 16 Mbps):

http://www.bce.ca/en/news/releases/bcinter...7/05/73711.html

#13 Rudy on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:50

i kinda wanted to upgrade to shaw's 25mbps but i couldnt justify an extra 61/month

#14 Pink Floyd on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:52

Now, what will be the price? The 20mbps connection is already at 70$cad. I think I pay enough right now. Personally, I will not pay more for internet. Let's see if other Videotron's customers (just like me) will take this 100mbps conn or now

#15 thenay on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:54

Too bad Videotron has caps on their internet

20mbps service has 20 GB down/10GB up for $79.99 CAD mth
Why put a ferrari on a short track. Can't imagine the 100mbps service in terms of cost and usage

The best package with Videtron is the 10mbps service, no caps and $64.90 CAD a month.

#16 Sumeet on 04 Feb 2007 - 20:57

Frickin hell, im still under the 2.4mbps profile on sympatico >.< Im supposed to be going 5!

#17 aldrlandon on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:07

I have comcast in the USA, and my connection is rated at 6 Mb/s with no caps, but when I run bandwidth tests I usually get 10-11 Mb/s so I'm happy

(4 replies) #18 rm20010 on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:12

Rogers has taken a near monopoly on cable in Toronto. They bought out whatever Shaw had left and took control of their cable lines. In layman's terms, I'm stuck on Rogers, and Bell is definitely not a choice given my poor service with them and their deceptive billing practices.

But I'm still happy with this service so far. It's only 5 Mbps (speed tests max at about 4500 kbps), but it doesn't disconnect every 4 hours... unlike Sympatico.

#18.1 zivan56 on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:48

well in Vancouver Shaw has an almost 100% monopoly, with the only alternative being Novus (serving on ~30 buildings, but really good/fair). Telus is quite a bit slower, and have some killer caps (20 GB????), so they are not even in the running unless you pay $70 a month...

#18.2 thenay on 04 Feb 2007 - 22:06

Quote - (rm20010 said @ #1

Rogers has taken a near monopoly on cable in Toronto. They bought out whatever Shaw had left and took control of their cable lines. In layman's terms, I'm stuck on Rogers, and Bell is definitely not a choice given my poor service with them and their deceptive billing practices.

But I'm still happy with this service so far. It's only 5 Mbps (speed tests max at about 4500 kbps), but it doesn't disconnect every 4 hours... unlike Sympatico.

Rogers and Shaw have an agreement, Rogers takes East and Shaw takes West.
Shaw use to be here in Ontario until the agreement, it was in 2000 or 2001, can't remember.

#18.3 +DrunkenMaster on 04 Feb 2007 - 22:42

I saw the packages being offered by Telus. It does seem like a monopoly. Do they offer any bundled Internet and cell phone service. Am moving to Vancouver in the coming months. I've heard of a few good ISPs but am no sold on the idea of VoIP for reliability. My former workplace had a large install of it and it was so problematic. I wouldn't rely on it for a home phone.

#18.4 advancedboy on 05 Feb 2007 - 04:01

I have Rogers currently, living in Toronto (well, Vaughan... the city above Toronto), and I want to switch to Velcom. Anyone know if they're good?

#19 Pippin666 on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:13

I live in Quebec (Montreal) and Videotron is currently my ISP with the 20MB connection. I esily get a strong 2MB/sec!

#20 WelshBluebird on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:15

IIRC, NTL were / are trialling 100Mbps in the UK, and quite a few east asian countries (japan, etc), get a hell of a lot faster, so its not really something that new.

#21 Broke Busta on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:15

I wonder how much this will cost. I already use Videotron and I live next to Montreal. =)

#22 slippery on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:18

my latest speed test: 14871/1446

(2 replies) #23 Pyjamasmannen on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:39

Have had 100mbit for over a year (I live in Sweden btw) and it's really great news that some other countries bring up there speed to so that me and others can take advantage of the capacity we got.

#23.1 Jugalator on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:57

I agree, the bottlenecks here doesn't seem to be the national infrastructure as it's often really fast within Sweden, but gets worse once you get to Europe, and even worse once you a few hops later get to the US or elsewhere. The problem pretty clearly being router and link capacity as you do traceroutes...

#23.2 Arkos Reed on 05 Feb 2007 - 12:17

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I agree, the bottlenecks here doesn't seem to be the national infrastructure as it's often really fast within Sweden, but gets worse once you get to Europe, and even worse once you a few hops later get to the US or elsewhere. The problem pretty clearly being router and link capacity as you do traceroutes...

Technically, Sweden and all northern counties around you are in a big WAN with only a few low capacity interconnects with the rest of europe, just like South Korea, that's why you have very high speeds as long as you stay in sweden/denmark/Norway and it drops when you go any further

(1 reply) #24 DClark on 04 Feb 2007 - 21:56

5 Mb/s here, with 4 STBs on IPTV totalling 12 - 16 Mb/s. Right now Sasktel is building a fiber optic infrastructure over DSLAM, but I don't know how they will manage to achieve 4 High Definition STBs on that technology considering DSLAM is limited to 25 Mb/s (a high def STB = 13 Mb/s). How is it technologically possible to drive fiber-optic speeds into copper wire?

#24.1 Jugalator on 04 Feb 2007 - 22:01

Yes, I was wondering this too; copper wires use to have quite severe limitations in distance for optimal speeds while fiber optics don't really exhibit that problem. I was wondering about the maximum range one would get these claimed speeds. "As high as 100 Mbps" unfortunately doesn't say much in this day and age with hyped speeds.

#25 mitch00 on 04 Feb 2007 - 22:05

I'm on Videotron right now. Can't wait for these speed improvements. I can download as fast as ~900kbps constant depending on the server, and upload at ~150kbps... I wonder how much better these new speeds will be.

#26 Enigma776 on 04 Feb 2007 - 22:44

just gonna wait to see what virgin media (NTL:Telewest, UK) have to offer they seem to be implying 50mb connections but we will see

#27 cooljerk_dv on 04 Feb 2007 - 23:10

Shaws 25Mbps would be nice but for 99bucks, i dont think so. If stick with the more affordable 10Mbps version.

100Mbps . . very cool, thats some pretty quick downloading

#28 +Nienor on 04 Feb 2007 - 23:17

OMG! LET'S GO!!!

#29 TruckWEB on 04 Feb 2007 - 23:24

Cool, I'm using Videotron Extreme right now (10Mbps).... But this 400% more speed will come at what cost?? Extreme service is not cheap... at 65$/month.

Extreme Plus is at 79$/month for 20Mbps....

#30 PsykX on 04 Feb 2007 - 23:41

BTW, to the person who posted, there's an acute accent on the e of Vidéotron.

#31 SLeeM@N on 05 Feb 2007 - 00:27

Im in montreal, I have 7mbps and I found this enough , I think it's pretty bad because videotron will take the lead and will be the only one who can offert 100mbits so they can do anything if there's no concurrence we're in trouble. So it won't change anything well actually I've the one 34$/month it's quite expensive... I wish they gonna review their price and limit...

#32 SLeeM@N on 05 Feb 2007 - 00:29

and by the way its 100mbits download only they didn't say the upload speed I guess it will increase but not much... because 20mbits down and the up is 1mbits. It's not a 100mbits dedicated well they didn't mention it but I don't think so.

(4 replies) #33 TheGriffin on 05 Feb 2007 - 00:35

Well there is at least something Quebec has beat us at (Ontario).

#33.1 2xSilverKnight on 05 Feb 2007 - 01:37

really ?? In 200+ years we're still here because you need us more than we do

Wanna hear something funny ...
National Bank and Royal Bank HQ are in Montreal !
Bank of Montreal HQ are in Toronto !

talk about who's owning who.
Oh, and my uncle's wife is VP of Equifax Canada

owned ...

#33.2 TheGriffin on 05 Feb 2007 - 03:56

Quote - (2xSilverKnight said @ #33.1)

really ?? In 200+ years we're still here because you need us more than we do

Wanna hear something funny ...
National Bank and Royal Bank HQ are in Montreal !
Bank of Montreal HQ are in Toronto !

talk about who's owning who.
Oh, and my uncle's wife is VP of Equifax Canada

owned ...

Yes, and the wealth of Canada mostly comes from Ontario's industrial economy. Not forgetting the capital of Canada is in Ontario. =)

#33.3 2xSilverKnight on 05 Feb 2007 - 09:33

Quote - (TheGriffin said @ #33.2)

Quote - (2xSilverKnight said @ #33.1)

really ?? In 200+ years we're still here because you need us more than we do

Wanna hear something funny ...
National Bank and Royal Bank HQ are in Montreal !
Bank of Montreal HQ are in Toronto !

talk about who's owning who.
Oh, and my uncle's wife is VP of Equifax Canada

owned ...

Yes, and the wealth of Canada mostly comes from Ontario's industrial economy. Not forgetting the capital of Canada is in Ontario. =)

well.. this is all illusions, see today it's Alberta the leading province of oiler advertisement

.people fight for it in any cultural regions, but at the end we all get screwed or sucked up in this planned system. Btw, wealth comes from Commonwealth

, and the queen, i'm glad she has no authority here.

they give you progressevly less while they make more, and the 1.00 silver coin cost hundreds more from the begining introduction of the "dollard"-represented currencies

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#33.4 Ryders on 05 Feb 2007 - 13:08

Quote - (TheGriffin said @ #33.2)

Yes, and the wealth of Canada mostly comes from Ontario's industrial economy. Not forgetting the capital of Canada is in Ontario. =)

This proves how little one can know about their own country's history! Do a little research (should I name google?!

on why Queen Victoria decided to make Ottawa the Capital instead of Hull or any other city!

(1 reply) #34 black_death on 05 Feb 2007 - 02:00

Ontario is the most populated province in Canada yet we have the slowest internet even in Toronto, ****ing 5 and 6 Mbps! Stupid Bell and Rogers, I wish we had even 8 Mbps nermind 100......

#34.1 Hova on 05 Feb 2007 - 03:14

Agreed.

I would love to have more choice in Ontario. Either go with Disconnect Every 10 Minutes Bell or Bandwidth Shaping Rogers.

But I guess that's all the choice we've got.

#35 neufuse on 05 Feb 2007 - 02:21

get 22Mbit internet already, its not really worth it... half the places you download from dont even go that fast! I max out at a lot of sites at 400-500KB/ps some sites like microsoft's go at 2.5MB/ps but not many at all

#36 spetz on 05 Feb 2007 - 03:39

People saying 5 or 6mbits is bad i get 1.5mbit from bell in mississuaga they say my telephone wire is to slow to support anything faster. Its plain old theft.

Videotron come to Ontario.

#37 Dr.Jones on 05 Feb 2007 - 04:18

Videotron sucks. They block port 80 (incoming) for no reason, they're almost the only ISP that charges for download/uploads after 20 GB/ 10 GB per month, and I get horrible (horrible as in 30-60 seconds) pings in mmorpg's or fps games.

Also, their digital tv receiver box is almost as stable as windows Me.

(1 reply) #38 Wodin on 05 Feb 2007 - 04:27

This shows how we're getting screwed in the US. Japan, Europe and now Canada have speeds that put the US to shame. The technology is available, but the ISP's are all keeping it from us. Europe, Japan and even South Korea pay 1/2 the cost for 33 times (100Mbps) the speed that we get in the US (3Mbps). This can only occur in a monopolistic environment. If there was true competition the US would be the leader of the pack, or at least even with the front runners.

#38.1 Arkos Reed on 05 Feb 2007 - 12:23

Quote - (Wodin said @ #3

This shows how we're getting screwed in the US. Japan, Europe and now Canada have speeds that put the US to shame. The technology is available, but the ISP's are all keeping it from us. Europe, Japan and even South Korea pay 1/2 the cost for 33 times (100Mbps) the speed that we get in the US (3Mbps). This can only occur in a monopolistic environment. If there was true competition the US would be the leader of the pack, or at least even with the front runners.

I can only confirm, however as I stated in a reply above, I would put Korea and Sweden in a different category, they have thoses kinds of speeds only on their national network, as soon as they try to get anything outside it crawls, and also last time I checked BBB 100Mbits had some severe DL caps in Sweden.

The most interesting connections I've seen so far are in France, damn bastards have such a competition over ADSL subscriptions from about 6-8 different providers that prices for connections up to 25Mbits have fallen down to 15 euros/month (totally uncapped). For 30 Euros if you are in the right areas (mostly big cities) you can get 25Mbits ADSL, free calls on all national and some international landlines and 50+ digital TV channels

#39 NeoXY on 05 Feb 2007 - 06:29

Oh great...maybe Roger will stop f**** with our damn BT ports now that we got somewhere else to switch to...

#40 Ji@nBing on 05 Feb 2007 - 07:47

What about us poor folks out here in the West? My Shaw connection is actually more than fast enough, but if I can get way faster, why not?

#41 Matt T on 05 Feb 2007 - 09:07

Meanwhile, the fastest speed available in Australia is 24Mbps.

#42 |Maxim| on 05 Feb 2007 - 10:13

gj canada & docsis 2.0b FTW!

but i dont know why they have to use cisco modems.. motorola has the new sb6100's out on their website

/offtopic

I'm hoping my ISP (Bigpond) upgrade their speed now as they finally turned off the analogue pay tv service on the HFC network.

/ontopic

#43 Vegetunks on 05 Feb 2007 - 10:28

Damn i wish NTL would do something like this :p

#44 C_Guy on 05 Feb 2007 - 16:20

As usual, Western Canada gets neglected.

Oh well, Shaw isn't that bad. At least I'm not on Telus

#45 zeta_immersion on 05 Feb 2007 - 18:37

yeah ontario is messed up with rogers/bell, auto insurance and other ****, i wish we would grow more brain but then again people seem to accept every **** everyone gives us (oh an by the way rogers hied the bill by almost 10$

is sad man

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