Microsoft Corp. Chief Executive Steve Ballmer said Thursday analysts' forecasts for revenue from Windows Vista in fiscal 2008 were "overly aggressive." Ballmer's comments come two weeks after the world's largest software maker released Vista, the upgrade to its ubiquitous Windows operating system, and predicted that consumers will move to Vista faster than past Windows upgrades. In a strategy presentation to analysts, Ballmer said Vista will create a "small surge" in PC sales in fiscal 2008, but would not spur a big increase over normal growth rates.
"Some of the revenue models and revenue forecasts I've seen out there for Windows Vista are overly aggressive," said Ballmer. "I don't think that much new money will race out of the consumers pockets into PCs." In January, Microsoft made available Windows Vista after more than five years of development and numerous delays. Windows runs on more than 95 percent of the world's computers and represents the company's biggest profit driver. The Windows franchise is the centerpiece of Microsoft's business, because the company makes more than 75 cents in operating profit for every dollar of sales. The cash flow generated by Windows allows Microsoft to make investments in new business like digital music players and online services.
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"Some of the revenue models and revenue forecasts I've seen out there for Windows Vista are overly aggressive," said Ballmer. "I don't think that much new money will race out of the consumers pockets into PCs." In January, Microsoft made available Windows Vista after more than five years of development and numerous delays. Windows runs on more than 95 percent of the world's computers and represents the company's biggest profit driver. The Windows franchise is the centerpiece of Microsoft's business, because the company makes more than 75 cents in operating profit for every dollar of sales. The cash flow generated by Windows allows Microsoft to make investments in new business like digital music players and online services.
















I predict Vista will be a flop compared to their recent offerings. There's too much FUD out there - some of it deserved.
Score 1 for the people who know what they are talking about over the army of MS MBAs responsible for Vista's absurd pricing, ridiculous crippleware market/version segmentation, and unrealized promises.
Vista is XP+ and everyone knows it. They should have priced, released, and marketed it as such.
Score 1 for the people who know what they are talking about over the army of MS MBAs responsible for Vista's absurd pricing, ridiculous crippleware market/version segmentation, and unrealized promises.
Vista is XP+ and everyone knows it. They should have priced, released, and marketed it as such.
Obviously you know nothing about Vista's internal working... if you did, you'd know that it's no XP+ equiv.
Score 1 for the people who know what they are talking about over the army of MS MBAs responsible for Vista's absurd pricing, ridiculous crippleware market/version segmentation, and unrealized promises.
Vista is XP+ and everyone knows it. They should have priced, released, and marketed it as such.
Obviously you know nothing about Vista's internal working... if you did, you'd know that it's no XP+ equiv.
yeah and you my friend are believing the hype.
Score 1 for the people who know what they are talking about over the army of MS MBAs responsible for Vista's absurd pricing, ridiculous crippleware market/version segmentation, and unrealized promises.
Vista is XP+ and everyone knows it. They should have priced, released, and marketed it as such.
Obviously you know nothing about Vista's internal working... if you did, you'd know that it's no XP+ equiv.
yeah and you my friend are believing the hype.
Really? So please sir, set me straight. Explain how the security enhancements, performance and reliability enhancements, complete EoA (Ease of Access) redesign, parental controls, sound control redesign, driver seperation from kernel, ability for the OS to determine what applications to close during upgrades/installs (without a complete OS reboot), etcetra, is just an XP overhaul.
Oh wait, that's a different Steve.
Sorry.
Unless they drop the price here to what it should be if you convert the US price at the current exchange rate this will likely go the way of the fabled Windows Me...
I'm not sure about the price either. On the one hand I feel its fair given the work it takes to make Vista but on the other, many original offerings have been stripped out (like WinFS for one) so the value on the dollar isn't as good as it should be.
The thing that's holding Vista back are the lack of good hardware drivers, people are running on beta drivers with sucky performence and or bugs that make Vista crash. If people would go back to the first days of Win2k and even XP, they also had a lack of good drivers at the start which held them both back.
When XP was out, everyone said, "boo, it's just a new UI and nothing else, I'm staying with Win2k!" Now the same people turn around and say that vista is "just a new UI and nothing else, I'm staying with WinXP."
It's an endless cycle whenever a new OS comes out until the hardware and software devs finally do their job and code for it like they should.
Same here. When I went from Win98 to XP, it really was a huge improvement
The move from XP to Vista, while nice, is nowhere near as big.
Poor driver support and lacking program support from some overly dozy and sluggish companies puts an additional dampener there.
Since I was clever enough to get Vista Oem, I won't complain about the price
Vista (Ultimate) is the ONLY version of Vista that should have been released, as a $100 upgrade to XP Pro, or $200 retail version. Everything else is Vista- crippleware, period.
PS They did do a great job with the new Office 2007 though. The ribbon really rocks and they should extend it throughout the product suite.
Office rocks.
Vista (Ultimate) is the ONLY version of Vista that should have been released, as a $100 upgrade to XP Pro, or $200 retail version. Everything else is Vista- crippleware, period.
PS They did do a great job with the new Office 2007 though. The ribbon really rocks and they should extend it throughout the product suite.
Actually they didn't drop Vista's first development track because it was an abysmal failure, it was dropped because of their new commitment to security and knowledge on the subject. In order to create the secure OS that Vista is today many of the other features were pushed back and eventually broke. The amount of time and effort it would have taken to bring these features back into the OS would have pushed it another year or so.
Now, lets look at the differences between Vista Premium and Vista Ultimate; listed are what is available in Ultimate but not in Premium. (resource here):
1. Complete PC Backup
2. Business Networking (i.e. Remote Desktop and Domain Networking)
3. Bitlocker
4. Ultimate Extras
So that list simply doesn't prove to me that Vista Premium is a crippled version of Windows.
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2. Business Networking (i.e. Remote Desktop and Domain Networking)
3. Bitlocker
4. Ultimate Extras
So that list simply doesn't prove to me that Vista Premium is a crippled version of Windows.
smoke and mirrors
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