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Virgin Media doubles cable bandwidth to 20Mbit

Daniel Fleshbourne   on 01 March 2007 - 12:38 · 70 comments & 17565 views

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THE NEWLY RE-BRANDED cable operator Virgin Media, previously known as NTL:Telewest, has officially announced plans to double the maximum speed of UK cable-based internet services.

Virgin Media will introduce a new 20Mbit cable internet offering, up from the previous 10Mbit product, in June. The company has already undertaken successful user beta trials of the 20Mbit service.The company has also announced plans to increase the product range to include a incredibly fast 50Mbit service. 'As an end-to-end network owner, cable has inbuilt advantages in the quality of broadband service that we offer,' the company said in a financial results statement this week.

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(1 reply) #1 InsaneNutter on 01 Mar 2007 - 12:45
Woohoo! what a good company
I hope they dont forget about us 4mbit users too!
#1.1 redwhorns on 01 Mar 2007 - 14:03
yeah hopefully we'll be upgraded to 8Mb
#2 Fubar on 01 Mar 2007 - 12:47
its great now branson has taken control , we will get a great service at a great price
(3 replies) #3 MeWhOeLsE on 01 Mar 2007 - 12:48
Well might compensate loosing some of their best channels! lol *Cough* Sky *Cough*
#3.1 dev on 01 Mar 2007 - 12:50
only decent channel lost is sky one, others i couldnt care about and i also wouldnt want virgin paying ~£40m a year for it. i wouldn't go saying sky one is the best channel, sports/movies/uktv channels are a lot better :p
#3.2 InsaneNutter on 01 Mar 2007 - 12:54
With internet at that speed i carnt see downloading anything that woud be shown on Sky like Lost and 24 been a major problem!
#3.3 Fubar on 01 Mar 2007 - 13:07
Quote - (InsaneNutter said @ #3.2)
With internet at that speed i carnt see downloading anything that woud be shown on Sky like Lost and 24 been a major problem!


they lost a profit of 60m a year and 3 million customers and tbh i think sky made a **** poor move lol sod em virgin central and virgin central 2 are far better ,, since i can choose what i watch and when i watch it , plus virign will most likely get the shows direct from the tv stations and not sky so sky lost out
#4 Siddharth Prabhu on 01 Mar 2007 - 12:57
Another story by the Inquirer is front-page news??
(1 reply) #5 Jdawg683 on 01 Mar 2007 - 13:01
damn, where can i get this?
#6 moose232 on 01 Mar 2007 - 13:08
Currently downloading at 50mb here in Ashford and lovin it
#7 leesmithg on 01 Mar 2007 - 13:09
My AOL contract finishes July 26th.

Unless they can offer me the same service, then 20mbit service seems o.k.

I have bskyb, bt and aol, if I combine them all to Virgin in July I will save about £15 per month, might be worth ago.
#8 +kraized on 01 Mar 2007 - 13:15
Just moved into a new flat that is cabled. Cannot get Sky and I'm not bothered about the loss of the Sky channels. Never watched Sky One and the others are pants anyway. Looks like I'm gonna be signing up for VM VIP package. Sky Movies and Sky Sports bundled for free and get VOD inclusive too along with 10Mbit BB (soon to be 20Mbit), and free phone calls.

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(1 reply) #9 DarkGashX on 01 Mar 2007 - 13:21
Knew about this a couple of days ago. Everyone on 10Mb will be upgraded to 20Mb by June (including myself ) for FREE. Plus, a 50Mb trial is in progress right now and they hope to launch it in June as a new top tier at a rumored £55 a month. Since RB took over NTL this company is getting better and better.
#9.1 axious on 01 Mar 2007 - 16:41
And you'll be throttled if you have the audacity to actually use the full bandwidth for any amount of time! As so many of us are currently experiencing!
#10 Krome on 01 Mar 2007 - 13:22
Damn Comcast still lagging behind... can't get any good service... been paying over 65$ for around 10 years now
#11 Schnitzel on 01 Mar 2007 - 13:25
Yes! Great news.
I'm already more than happy with my 10Mbit, but a free upgrade to 20Mbit is going to be fantastic.
(2 replies) #12 leesmithg on 01 Mar 2007 - 13:31
I was wondering what happened to the NTL 100mbit trial they have been running for about a year in Ashford, Kent.

Now NTL is owned by Virgin.

Anyone know?

#12.1 DarkGashX on 01 Mar 2007 - 13:35
Quote - (leesmithg said @ #12)
I was wondering what happened to the NTL 100mbit trial they have been running for about a year in Ashford, Kent.

Now NTL is owned by Virgin.

Anyone know?


Yes, the trial at the time showed the network would not be able to handle it but in December last year NTL CEO (now VM) hinted at 100Mb for Xmas 2007. I doubt it though.
#12.2 leesmithg on 01 Mar 2007 - 13:55
Quote - (DarkGashX said @ #12.1)
Quote - (leesmithg said @ #12)
I was wondering what happened to the NTL 100mbit trial they have been running for about a year in Ashford, Kent.

Now NTL is owned by Virgin.

Anyone know?


Yes, the trial at the time showed the network would not be able to handle it but in December last year NTL CEO (now VM) hinted at 100Mb for Xmas 2007. I doubt it though.



Hey thanks for info, stops me from being envious now ha ha.
(5 replies) #13 limok on 01 Mar 2007 - 14:03
20 meg down is all good but what will be the up speed. currently with the 10 meg we're getting 512k..
#13.1 vetneufuse on 01 Mar 2007 - 14:22
Yikes 512? heck on Comcast we are getting 6Mbit down and 768Kbit up, thas more of a proportion then 10 down 512 up...
#13.2 +WinMacLin on 01 Mar 2007 - 14:54
Actually we only get 384K on 10Mb down on Blueyonder. Unless you have a different 10Mb to me.

512K = 64,000B/s
384K = 48,000B/s

I've never been able to go over 48,000 neither has anyone else I know on 10Mb Blueyonder.
#13.3 Krome on 01 Mar 2007 - 16:48
Quote - (neufuse said @ #13.1)
Yikes 512? heck on Comcast we are getting 6Mbit down and 768Kbit up, thas more of a proportion then 10 down 512 up...

Not quite 768kbps as they claim. When I first sign up for it, that is the one thing that I want but instead it's 384kbps, NOT 768kbps. I may have to call and clarify this matter. Yeah 384kbps=48kBps. If I got 768kbps, that is 96kBps, it would be so awesome.
#13.4 Monkey Man on 02 Mar 2007 - 20:52
Then what are you paying for WinMacLin

On average i get around 300 - 900 kB/s on my exBlueyonder 10mbit.

#13.5 vetneufuse on 02 Mar 2007 - 21:13
Quote - (Krome said @ #13.3)
Quote - (neufuse said @ #13.1)
Yikes 512? heck on Comcast we are getting 6Mbit down and 768Kbit up, thas more of a proportion then 10 down 512 up...

Not quite 768kbps as they claim. When I first sign up for it, that is the one thing that I want but instead it's 384kbps, NOT 768kbps. I may have to call and clarify this matter. Yeah 384kbps=48kBps. If I got 768kbps, that is 96kBps, it would be so awesome.


I get 768Kbit down, but I am in a Adelphia conversion area, we seem to of goten treated better... and I can pull 96KB/ps up perfectly fine
(1 reply) #14 Lexcyn on 01 Mar 2007 - 14:05
Too bad the North American market won't be seeing these speeds for a while.
#14.1 XeonBuilder on 01 Mar 2007 - 16:01
I live in New York and I get 30MB down and over 5MB up. I would say that Im seeing better speeds not to mention that they are already in the process of upgrading to 50MB down. Optonline in the by far the best internet provider around.
(1 reply) #15 +ScottishLad on 01 Mar 2007 - 14:07
As it stands there are few sources on the web that can support 10mbit nevermind 20 so i don't know what everyone is getting excited about.

Usenet and a few lesser used FTP servers (with multi connection support) are the only items that ever give me my 10mbit and this isnt a utilisation issue in my area :/. I fear there will be a large incrase in complaints along the lines of "wheres my 20mbit.!!!?!?" which seems to happen as it stands for 10mbit. A good percentage of cases i've seen so far are source servers not being able to give 10mbit out yet the users can not understand this and continue to whine alot :/.

Meh it'll be nice to have, when using say usenet or ftp but tbh i see it being a pain for virgin media. Theres also the issue of capacity upgrades to support it. I'd imagine it'll take atleast a year for areas already with borderline capacity to get uggraded. It takes alot of time and planning on VM's part to do capacity upgrades so i hope this doesnt cause more issues in this respect too.

Shall be interesting to see what happens
#15.1 AdmiralRooster on 01 Mar 2007 - 16:08
But what about using multiple services at once? I think its silly for anyone to assume that 5mb isnt fast enough right now for any one task... but what about running multiple tasks at once...?
(3 replies) #16 jmc777 on 01 Mar 2007 - 14:17
Well good luck using your 20MB connection between 6pm and midnight when they finally roll out their traffic shaping/bandwidth throttling across the entire network.
#16.1 JJ_ on 01 Mar 2007 - 14:47
Looks like someone has had bad experience with ADSL. As for packet shaping, SSL is the way forward.
#16.2 jmc777 on 01 Mar 2007 - 15:20
Quote - (JJ_ said @ #17.1)
Looks like someone has had bad experience with ADSL.



Nay, I'm an old Blueyonder customer who's used to a full-throttle 24/7 connection. I'm not looking forward to having my bandwidth usage limited.

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#16.3 axious on 01 Mar 2007 - 16:48
Quote - (jmc777 said @ #17.2)
Quote - (JJ_ said @ #17.1)
Looks like someone has had bad experience with ADSL.



Nay, I'm an old Blueyonder customer who's used to a full-throttle 24/7 connection. I'm not looking forward to having my bandwidth usage limited.


Hear hear. No point in faster speeds if they throttle it to less than what you should have been getting originally
(1 reply) #17 on 01 Jan 1970 - 00:00
#17.1 leesmithg on 01 Mar 2007 - 14:46
Quote - (Guest said @ #16)
joy. oh joy.

bring me my 20mb connection, mr branson


You mean Sir Richard Branson.
#18 Larney on 01 Mar 2007 - 15:01
This is brilliant. Now will the upstream speeds be upgraded is what I want to know..

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(1 reply) #19 mircleman on 01 Mar 2007 - 15:11
How is that even possible 50 mb or even 100 where is the cut off? and if you have say 5 million customers all downloading at 50 or 100mb what kind of effect does that have on the net and the network at large?
#19.1 MiG- on 01 Mar 2007 - 15:23
in certain areas, it will melt the network...

never had any slowdowns on blueyonder ! i hope they do something like.... 20mb, 10mb, 5mb. makes more sense
#20 thunderbird_117 on 01 Mar 2007 - 16:16
Wow 20mb connection. While we indians are suffering with 256 Kbps speed and we got 1 Mb with 1GB limation.

#21 mircleman on 01 Mar 2007 - 16:16
Thats my point im wondering if these companies trying to compete with competitors and give users ever increasing speed to keep them happy ,they are not somehow forgetting that the network for all practical purposes is still in its early stages. These speeds could crash entire networks. Id be interested in bud man's take on this.
#22 Colin-uk on 01 Mar 2007 - 17:23
Sounds nice
(3 replies) #23 Powerless on 01 Mar 2007 - 18:06
I had their 20mb for a week whilst they were testing it and was happily uploading @ 768kbps constant.
#23.1 tonyjr on 01 Mar 2007 - 18:16
I hope they push the upload speeds past at least 1MBit when they roll it out nationwide! Please please please! Thankyouplease!
#23.2 +cheesegoduk on 01 Mar 2007 - 19:16
You was downloading at 7mbit speeds? Wow... I'm amazed at the 20mbit service
#23.3 Powerless on 02 Mar 2007 - 18:12
Quote - (cheesegoduk said @ #23.2)
You was downloading at 7mbit speeds? Wow... I'm amazed at the 20mbit service


You have misunderstood, please re-read.
#24 matty13 on 01 Mar 2007 - 18:25
Yay!!!!!! Been waiting and predicting this might happen since october last year ish.
(1 reply) #25 Deihmos on 01 Mar 2007 - 18:33
I am already up to 30/5 with cable service for $29.95 US a month.
#25.1 Helba on 01 Mar 2007 - 19:01
Where?!

Wherever it is, I think I'll move there.

We pay about $40 for DSL. Incredibly better than dialup, but not necessarily good compared to cable
(2 replies) #26 n_K on 01 Mar 2007 - 19:08
"its great now branson has taken contro"
branson has *NOTHING* to do with virgin media, its still that ****ty ntl that run it. I have the top package on ntl (virgin media) and this must be a publicity stunt, i get 4Mb TOPS, when i am supposed to get 10Mb. They are complete idiotic morons that lie there way through saying you get all this stuff when you dont, thank god sky dumped ntl, they are an appauling company and trading standards should have destroyed them years ago
#26.1 metallithrax on 01 Mar 2007 - 19:38
Quote - (n_K said @ #26)
"its great now branson has taken contro"
branson has *NOTHING* to do with virgin media, its still that ****ty ntl that run it. I have the top package on ntl (virgin media) and this must be a publicity stunt, i get 4Mb TOPS, when i am supposed to get 10Mb. They are complete idiotic morons that lie there way through saying you get all this stuff when you dont, thank god sky dumped ntl, they are an appauling company and trading standards should have destroyed them years ago


I'm on 10Mb as well, and am lucky if I get 2Mb. They don't seem to know what the problem is as it has been like this for a few months now.
#26.2 Anigel on 19 Mar 2007 - 22:12
I am on 10mb and I get 10mb

So nothing wrong with the 10mb service here in an ex London Cable area
#27 w1r3d on 01 Mar 2007 - 19:08
i think it has got to the point where you dont get to use does 10 20 30 50 mbps because is just too much most of the times... they need to start sharing this speeds with internet tv, internet telephone... now that would be really cool, and what about more upload speed??? i think thats what we need but at this rate i see us getting 100mbps download 1mbps upload before decent internet tv... or anything that would actually consume that bandwith.

for me a cool deal right now would be 20mbps down 5mbps up with good quality internet tv and voip as standard =P
#28 SniperX on 01 Mar 2007 - 19:10
I'm curious to know where this notion of the upgrade being free for 10MB users is coming from. I've read nothing of a sort from any reliable source whatsoever.
#29 KC on 01 Mar 2007 - 19:45
WTF is going wrong here in America? Huh? WTF?
#30 stezo2k on 01 Mar 2007 - 19:46
nice thank god for telewest/virgin
(1 reply) #31 hotdog963al on 01 Mar 2007 - 20:56
Why is their logo a pringle?
#31.1 Baptist on 01 Mar 2007 - 23:21
I thought the same... maby that's because im hungry :/
#32 jimbo11883 on 01 Mar 2007 - 21:30
Why do we, in the US, have to pay high prices for such small bandwidth? I get 3Mbps Down and around 512Mbps up... It sucks!
#33 mircleman on 01 Mar 2007 - 21:35
time warner in new york albany just upgraded to 12 meg dl 2 mb up no charge
(1 reply) #34 on 01 Jan 1970 - 00:00
#34.1 hotdog963al on 01 Mar 2007 - 22:51
I always see things differently O.o
#35 R_a_V_e_N on 01 Mar 2007 - 23:12
It makes me cry Telstra charges us $50 for 1500/256 400 MB with upload included
#36 JJ_ on 01 Mar 2007 - 23:35
For those complaining about not getting actual 10Mbit speeds how about trying to download from a source which is able to provide you with that sort of speed. Don't expect 10Mbit torrent download speeds any time soon
(1 reply) #37 bucko on 01 Mar 2007 - 23:47
ADSL sucks, I'm still on 512KB, hoping to upgrade to 8MB soon but it will still have a 20GB cap were as my current connection has no cap.

Wish we got cable in this area, your offered so much more. My brother is on Telewest and he was telling me how he gets sky sports and stuff free now when I was down his at the weekend.
#37.1 UKer on 02 Mar 2007 - 11:56
You can get far better deals, all the providers I've been with have been unlimited or have had ridiculously high caps (i.e. Sky is 16Mb speed and 350GB cap for £10/month).
#38 advancedboy on 02 Mar 2007 - 00:30
And here in Toronto we are happy to be getting 5mbps or 6mbps of Rogers-throttled bandwidth.
(1 reply) #39 predator001 on 02 Mar 2007 - 10:52
Bit more info for those not in the UK...

NTL/Virgin cable is by no means nationwide. Infact it's only available to something like half the population.

BT's network is truly nationwide offering up to 8mbit (448kbps upstream) on nearly all phone exchanges. Again 8mbit is only available to those living closest to the exchange (something like 20%) and then the speeds decrease as the distance increases. They're also trialling some fibre optic technologies and an ADSL2+ (24mbit) product slated for next year.
#39.1 Anigel on 19 Mar 2007 - 22:15
Yep any dsl based service is very affected by routing distance from exchange.

I used to live less than 5Km from my exchange but was only getting about 7mbs down and 1.1mbs up on a 24mbs connection

So with any dsl service your milage will vary with cable it is normally a lot more consistant and less affected by distance
#40 UKer on 02 Mar 2007 - 11:53
Good news for cable customers, especially after loosing Sky One and other Sky channels. Shame they share bandwidth on a street, when I had cable my connection was good until all my neightbours logged on, then the speed used be poor as bandwidth is shared between neighbours on a street.

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