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OpenOffice To Dell: Pre-load Us, You'll Like Us

Slimy   on 13 March 2007 - 19:23 · 31 comments & 6893 views

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There has been a flood of requests on Dell's recently launched online suggestion box, IdeaStorm, for Dell PCs to be available with pre-loaded Linux operating systems and open-source desktop productivity applications. The Round Rock, Texas-based PC maker has not made promises, saying it would work to "certify" its PCs for some versions of Linux and would consider taking further action.

The OpenOffice Project has sent a letter to Michael Dell, showering praise on Dell’s chairman and CEO and asking him to consider pre-loading OpenOffice onto PCs. John McCreesh, marketing project lead for OpenOffice.org, also asked Dell to consider making a financial contribution to the software's development. “Let's have a conversation about how we could build an "OpenOffice.org supplied by Dell" product to give your customers what they are asking for. We'd also be happy to accept any financial contribution that Dell might offer to help ensure that OpenOffice.org continues to evolve in the future.”

Needless to say, this could be a major decision for the free OpenOffice software suite and its growing user base. If Dell gives the go-ahead, competitors will most likely have to respond, which can effectively result in a major positive growth in the adoption of open-source software.

Link: Forum Discussion (Thanks Markjensen)
News source: CRN Blogs

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#1 Fubar on 13 Mar 2007 - 19:27
great news , love Open Office
(1 reply) #2 SkyyPunk on 13 Mar 2007 - 19:28
I would be willing to accept any financial contributionn Dell might want to offer to me as well!
#2.1 vetmarkjensen on 13 Mar 2007 - 19:40
LOL

I am sure that that last bit about money will surprise Michael Dell. I am sure that he would expect the transfer of funds to go the other direction.

Pre-installing crapware, trialware and other crud like that is where Dell makes a little bit of extra money from the suppliers of that software, I believe.
(7 replies) #3 baskingridge on 13 Mar 2007 - 19:41
Nobody wants this crap preloaded on their computers. Don't do it Dell!
#3.1 vetmarkjensen on 13 Mar 2007 - 19:46
Oooh! You can troll! Go you!
#3.2 baskingridge on 13 Mar 2007 - 19:52
Quote - (markjensen said @ #3.1)
Oooh! You can troll! Go you!

You're not cool! Go you!
#3.3 Express on 13 Mar 2007 - 20:40
Sun needs to improve the perf of the app. I can't wait for 10 minutes for a graph to update; when I get the same thing working in mere seconds.
Manhours is more expensive than the couple of hundred dollars you save on a product.
#3.4 C_Guy on 13 Mar 2007 - 21:32
Actually he's right. People aren't going to want this pre-installed anymore than they want that Google crapware pre-installed. Instead of making their customers go through an un-install routine they should offer OpenOffice, Google, or whatever, as options to install, on first boot.

Oh wait! That makes too much sense.
#3.5 MrCobra on 14 Mar 2007 - 01:02
Quote - (baskingridge said @ #3)
Nobody wants this crap preloaded on their computers. Don't do it Dell!

*nix is not crap. I personally don't want to use it but there are those that do. Whether you like *nix or not, any competition against MS on the desktop is a good thing.
#3.6 K3vlar on 14 Mar 2007 - 02:01
Okay, you've just missed the point. We're talking about OpenOffice, not *nix.

I'm all for Dell offering Linux as a pre-install option, but I am also against OpenOffice as a pre-install, under any OS. It's just too damn slow, and I've had nothing but problems with print formatting. (Lay it out like that on the screen? Now it spans 12 pages when you print it for no reason!
#3.7 Frank on 14 Mar 2007 - 15:32
Quote - (C_Guy said @ #3.4)
Actually he's right. People aren't going to want this pre-installed anymore than they want that Google crapware pre-installed. Instead of making their customers go through an un-install routine they should offer OpenOffice, Google, or whatever, as options to install, on first boot.

Oh wait! That makes too much sense.

How do you think Dell can sell PC's as cheap as they do? I would think Dell gets a kickback from the companies for each machine that the third party software is installed to.

If you buy the Optiplex line the only real third party apps installed is the Google toolbar and Google Desktop.
(1 reply) #4 +Lexcyn on 13 Mar 2007 - 20:04
This would be better than those stupid trials for Office 2003 or 2007.
#4.1 tareqsiraj on 13 Mar 2007 - 20:21
I agree. I hate it when they bundle a whole bunch of trials ... even worse... when they dont give you windows cds and only an image in a separate partition, you restore it ... you get all the nice and wonderful software that you dont need.
#5 Angel Blue01 on 13 Mar 2007 - 20:12
Its been a while since I said this but... Go Dell!
(5 replies) #6 Magallanes on 13 Mar 2007 - 20:14
dell can preload whathever they want to, cause many users will uninstall linux for to install a "free" windows.
#6.1 vetmarkjensen on 13 Mar 2007 - 20:21
Ummm... This isn't about "Linux". This is about possibly offering a full OO.o, instead of trialware MS Office, or Works that doesn't include Word.
#6.2 Croquant on 13 Mar 2007 - 21:11
Quote - (markjensen said @ #6.1)
Ummm... This isn't about "Linux". This is about possibly offering a full OO.o, instead of trialware MS Office, or Works that doesn't include Word.

"There has been a flood of requests...for Dell PCs to be available with pre-loaded Linux operating systems...."
What part of "Linux" don't you understand, Mark?
#6.3 vetmarkjensen on 13 Mar 2007 - 22:00
Quote - (Croquant said @ #6.2)
Quote - (markjensen said @ #6.1)
Ummm... This isn't about "Linux". This is about possibly offering a full OO.o, instead of trialware MS Office, or Works that doesn't include Word.

"There has been a flood of requests...for Dell PCs to be available with pre-loaded Linux operating systems...."
What part of "Linux" don't you understand, Mark?
What part of "incidental" don't you?

The word "Linux" was mentioned, but the article has nothing to do with Linux. OpenOffice.org is not Linux. Clear enough for you?
#6.4 Croquant on 14 Mar 2007 - 01:59
Quote - (markjensen said @ #6.3)
Quote - (Croquant said @ #6.2)
Quote - (markjensen said @ #6.1)
Ummm... This isn't about "Linux". This is about possibly offering a full OO.o, instead of trialware MS Office, or Works that doesn't include Word.

"There has been a flood of requests...for Dell PCs to be available with pre-loaded Linux operating systems...."
What part of "Linux" don't you understand, Mark?
What part of "incidental" don't you?

The word "Linux" was mentioned, but the article has nothing to do with Linux. OpenOffice.org is not Linux. Clear enough for you?

Oh, it's clear alright. It's clear that you only see what you want to see.
Think for a moment. Would Microsoft ever allow Dell to sell Windows with OpenOffice and not MS Office? (the answer you are looking for is "Hell No." ) So, how is Dell gonna ship OpenOffice? Aside from shipping Linux in place of Windows I don't see how it's gonna work.
#6.5 K3vlar on 14 Mar 2007 - 02:06
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Aside from shipping Linux in place of Windows I don't see how it's gonna work.

Here's how it works. OO.o asks Michael Dell very nicely to do it,
Michael Dell considers it for a moment,
then (with extreme hestiation) puts OO.o on Windows installs ALONG WITH MS Office.
Then the end-user un-installs it along with all the crapware, and pays for a full version of MS Office.

The alternative option (and much more likely) is this:

OO.o asks Michael Dell very nicely to do it,
Michael Dell considers it for a moment, then doesn't do it.
(2 replies) #7 xtravgnt on 13 Mar 2007 - 20:26
I'm sure all that kickback money and deep discounts Dell gets from Microsoft are going to be put out on the table if they even look at this. Microsoft is going to have to crack the whip on them as they are getting out of hand, and once those incentives, discounts, etc go away then what is Dell going to do without be able to sell a $299 PC with free 40inch LCD, Windows Vista and Office suites?
#7.1 Express on 13 Mar 2007 - 20:35
Dell essentially pays no money for the OS.
Dell gets paid by symantec, mcafee, aol, google, turbo tax etc to preload their crap on the system making the OS essentially free for users and the manufacturer.
#7.2 MrCobra on 14 Mar 2007 - 01:06
Quote - (Express said @ #7.1)
Dell essentially pays no money for the OS.
Dell gets paid by symantec, mcafee, aol, google, turbo tax etc to preload their crap on the system making the OS essentially free for users and the manufacturer.

It's been noted in the past and present (law suits and all that) that OEMs get a really good deal on MS software if they sell only MS software. By offering another OS they are "breaking" the deals that were made with MS.
(2 replies) #8 Eros on 13 Mar 2007 - 20:51
#8.1 K3vlar on 14 Mar 2007 - 02:10
Heh. I forgot about those. Just one more reason it won't happen.

But, please refrain from the crappy MS Paint arrows, though, next time mmmkaay?
We're smart enough to make the connection ourselves.
#8.2 Eros on 14 Mar 2007 - 06:48
Quote - (K3vlar said @ #8.1)
Heh. I forgot about those. Just one more reason it won't happen.

But, please refrain from the crappy MS Paint arrows, though, next time mmmkaay?
We're smart enough to make the connection ourselves.


Its not mine buddy, found this on flickr. so tell there
#9 SacrificialSoldier on 13 Mar 2007 - 20:57
That would be awesome!
#10 Croquant on 13 Mar 2007 - 21:07
Ubuntu FTW!
#11 wrack on 13 Mar 2007 - 21:31
First thing I do with any Laptop I receive is format it clean and just install the OS alone, PERIOD.
#12 Lare2 on 13 Mar 2007 - 22:10
i'm totally against installing preloading software on new pc's, but i'll accept if they just included the binaries and let people decide if they want to install them or not, that way people who decide not to use them could easily delete them without having to go through the uninstall process.

#13 Aero Ultimate on 13 Mar 2007 - 22:50
Well, since they aleady allowed Linux, OpenOffice would be the next logical step.
Having OO pre-installed will certainly be a lot more useful than having an Office trial pre-installed.
Now that they already stepped into free-software-land, they can't go back again without getting massive protests from the users.

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