Best Buy & Circuit City Report Strong Demand for Vista
Posted by Emil Protalinski on 05 April 2007 - 00:08 · 38 comments & 8211 views
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#1 Posted by pixels on 05 Apr 2007 - 00:19
- Yeah, before I left Circuit City about a month ago, I was getting plenty of customers that wanted Vista and/or new computers with Vista on them. Of course there were some that thought it was crap, but that's expected.
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#1.1 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 05 Apr 2007 - 08:33
- Were you "overpaid"? lol.
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#3 Posted by wize_guy123 on 05 Apr 2007 - 01:16
- Best Buy ftw
I totally can back the whole 'Vista Demand'
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#4 Posted by xpablo on 05 Apr 2007 - 02:06
- Well I've been using Vista final since it was released and I'm still not entirely impressed over it.
I can see the deamnd though as XP is getting stale people are looking for change especially all the eye candy Vista has to offer.
I also won't be buying anything from Circuit City or it's Canadian cousin "The Source" .
due to their treatment of their now former employees. -
#4.2 Posted by SacrificialSoldier on 05 Apr 2007 - 14:49
- me!
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#4.3 Posted by advancedboy on 05 Apr 2007 - 16:26
- What did CC and The Source do to their employees? And why were Best Buy employees "overpaid"? Have I been living under a rock?
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#4.4 Posted by Imnotrichey on 05 Apr 2007 - 17:54
- Quote - (advancedboy said @ #4.3)What did CC and The Source do to their employees? And why were Best Buy employees "overpaid"? Have I been living under a rock?
I guess you have, it was pretty well publicized
http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=39115
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#5 Posted by +Nienor on 05 Apr 2007 - 02:14
- Well, here at Futureshop (Owned by Best Buy) when I go in Computers section I just get sick.
Most of PCs are running XP but all have an slideshow with Vista and Vista features etc.
And the worst, I hear Futureshop "Experts" saying that buying a Vista-Loaded PC is a better, faster and more secure than the same with XP. But if you look the specs of that PC with the slideshow showing Aero and Flip3D stuff, you see a Sempron 2GHz with 512MB and a shared on-board GF6100. Sorry, but this PC don't even meet the requirement of Vista Home Basic. Sure Vista sale are high since new PCs are now more "Better, Faster, Secure" than before! Give me a break. -
#5.1 Posted by Internal Storm on 05 Apr 2007 - 03:48
- Quote - (Nienor said @ #5)Well, here at Futureshop (Owned by Best Buy) when I go in Computers section I just get sick.
Most of PCs are running XP but all have an slideshow with Vista and Vista features etc.
And the worst, I hear Futureshop "Experts" saying that buying a Vista-Loaded PC is a better, faster and more secure than the same with XP. But if you look the specs of that PC with the slideshow showing Aero and Flip3D stuff, you see a Sempron 2GHz with 512MB and a shared on-board GF6100. Sorry, but this PC don't even meet the requirement of Vista Home Basic. Sure Vista sale are high since new PCs are now more "Better, Faster, Secure" than before! Give me a break.
While it's true that Vista does make a faster more secure experience over XP when used with a capable system, the shady marketing with Vista slide shows on subpar XP based machines isn't right. I have seen quite a few PC's with Vista though in FutureShop, I didn't try them all of course. I think it's just a matter of time before the old stock is pushed out, but it's a win-win for everyone because now computers will HAVE to come with decent graphics to run Aero. The current Intel standard is garbage and barely is able to keep up with Flip3D, so I am hoping they change their approach soon, but all the other nVidia and ATI onboard is actually half decent at least for desktop purposes. -
#5.2 Posted by hardgiant on 05 Apr 2007 - 04:51
- I have some Athlon 64 3200+ at the office with 1GB of Ram and GF6100 on-board graphics and Windows Vista Business runs all the whiz bang effects just fine. Aero Glass, Flip3D and Fade effects all look like they normally do on high end machines.
So that Sempron 2Ghz, 512MB and GF6100 is enough for Aero Glass and Flip3D. Of course I'd prefer a quad core with 8 gigs of ram and a 8800.
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#5.3 Posted by rajputwarrior on 05 Apr 2007 - 05:16
- well at the futureshop i work at, everyone wants XP
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#5.4 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 05 Apr 2007 - 08:36
- Quote - (rajputwarrior said @ #5.3)well at the futureshop i work at, everyone wants XP
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#5.5 Posted by +Nienor on 05 Apr 2007 - 12:55
- Quote - (hardgiant said @ #5.2)So that Sempron 2Ghz, 512MB and GF6100 is enough for Aero Glass and Flip3D.Vista Home Premium (The one with Aero, Flip3D and Media Center as announced) Requirements are 1GB RAM and a minimum of 128MB DX9 Card. That PC that we talk as 512MB RAM, less 128 that mean 384MB witch is even under the Home Basic Requirement set by Microsoft. I think it's that one, I saw Acer Aspire (I made a mistake, it's an Athlon, but the CPU don't matter in this case)
Look, it's pre-loaded with the BASIC edition, so WHY the sellers that call them self "experts" are trying to sell a PC, that can barely run Basic, with the features of Home Premium and telling that it's faster with Vista >_<.
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#7 Posted by TRC on 05 Apr 2007 - 04:25
- Well of course they will report this, they want to sell everyone a new computer.
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#7.1 Posted by toadeater on 05 Apr 2007 - 19:04
- Quote - (TRC said @ #7)Well of course they will report this, they want to sell everyone a new computer.
It also takes a certain type of customer to shop at a place like Best Buy, or even worse, call up Geek Squad! ROFL. This type of customer could be easily lured into buying Vista because they have no idea what they're getting into.
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#8 Posted by +rm20010 on 05 Apr 2007 - 05:15
- The way Best Buy advertises Vista on their laptops using their poor slideshows (that flicker like mad at times) doesn't do the OS justice. Even just showing a IE kiosk opened to the Windows Vista homepage is far better.
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#9 Posted by tman7 on 05 Apr 2007 - 05:17
- I got Vista biz edition running on my Amd 3200 with a Radeon X800. Runs fine with a few issues: lack of driver support for my sound card and a somewhat buggy wireless. I will continue to dual boot between Xp and Vista untill some of these issues get ironed out.
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#9.1 Posted by heffe2001 on 05 Apr 2007 - 13:11
- Quote - (tman7 said @ #10)I got Vista biz edition running on my Amd 3200 with a Radeon X800. Runs fine with a few issues: lack of driver support for my sound card and a somewhat buggy wireless. I will continue to dual boot between Xp and Vista untill some of these issues get ironed out.
This isn't a Vista problem, it's a problem with your hardware vendor & their drivers. I just wish Dell/Sigmatel would come out with decent audio drivers. They tend to pop a bit with the current 'release' drivers (When used with the 1500 wireless-n card that is)... -
#9.2 Posted by toadeater on 05 Apr 2007 - 19:10
- Quote - (heffe2001 said @ #9.1)This isn't a Vista problem, it's a problem with your hardware vendor & their drivers.
That's true, but this is a problem with all sorts of vendors and their devices. It all adds up.
Poor or non-functional video drivers, sound card drivers, scanner & printer drivers.
There is also some software that isn't working.
Like I said, it all adds up, and in the case of novice computer users it adds up to a nightmare. I cannot recommend Vista to any novices at this point, and I don't recommend running it on your primary machine if you're a gamer or do graphics work.
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#10 Posted by +BudMan on 05 Apr 2007 - 07:06
- Pure nonsense.. where can you even buy a laptop/pc with XP on it anymore -- so yeah vista demand is up
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#10.1 Posted by MrCobra on 05 Apr 2007 - 07:11
- I agree. I've been looking for a laptop for traveling and none that I've seen have XP on them. Vista just doesn't do it for me. Know where I can get a good bare laptop?
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#10.2 Posted by MioTheGreat on 05 Apr 2007 - 14:48
- Vista has a ton of features that are laptop specific, MrCobra -- I can't imagine running XP on my laptop. The power settings alone are awesome.
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#10.3 Posted by C_Guy on 05 Apr 2007 - 14:54
- NetLink Computers has a whole range of barebone notebooks:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?maj...minorcatid=1208
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#11 Posted by z0phi3l on 05 Apr 2007 - 09:58
- Best Buy and Circuit City, where the clueless people go to get screwed
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#12 Posted by NeoTrunks on 05 Apr 2007 - 15:39
- On a capable system, I do agree that Vista will offer the best experience to the average user. Yes, it will be faster, and more secure, if you have a beefy PC. If not, you'll regret installing Vista. Tactics like that only hurt the consumer in the end, which is a shame.
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#12.1 Posted by Magallanes on 05 Apr 2007 - 21:10
- With all respect but security measures in Vista works only for stupid people, for the rest of usersits just plain burden.
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#13 Posted by RaisinCain on 05 Apr 2007 - 16:29
- ^ More secure my ass. Look at the testing that's been done.
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#14 Posted by unkle stu on 05 Apr 2007 - 17:51
- it's cool that Vista is seeing good sales.. as for Circuit ****ty and (literally the) Worst Buy.. not so much
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#15 Posted by lbmouse on 05 Apr 2007 - 20:05
- It would be interesting to see how many full retail copies of Vista the stores are selling off of the shelf.
IMHO, that would be a better indicator for determining a "strong demand" for Vista. Maybe we are just going through a "strong demand" for new PCs right now (tax return season) and most of them just *happen* to have Vista installed.
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#16 Posted by Blaxima on 05 Apr 2007 - 23:11
- What a load of BS.
Why would anyone buying a new PC want an old OS on it? It only makes sense that they would want the newest one on their new PC.
How many full copies are being sold? Thats the real indicator of vista's popularity.
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#17 Posted by Lare2 on 06 Apr 2007 - 00:41
- All the average joe's buying Vista Ultimate for their 5+ years old celeron machines
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#18 Posted by kheldorin on 06 Apr 2007 - 03:05
- Since Circuit City reported a loss due to the lack of Vista PCs, doesn't it mean that it is more profitable to have mostly Vista PCs than a mix of both? If so, then it makes sense that most PC manufacturers would want to switch to Vista, not because Microsoft forced them, but because it is profitable to do so.
Best Buy said sales of Vista helped it gain market share in laptop and desktop computer sales. The company reported positive results for its fiscal fourth quarter, with profit that rose more than 18% year over year. Circuit City, on the other hand, reported a US$12.2 million loss for the quarter, and admitted sales were less than expected. The company acknowledged in a news statement it was negatively affected by "volatility" around the Vista sales transition due to the fact it kept its Vista PC inventory "lean" and so could not fulfill customer demand.