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Sony DVD's won't play on Sony DVD players

Steven Parker   on 17 April 2007 - 08:37 · 31 comments & 19951 views

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Having recently settled various lawsuits over their use of invasive DRM in CD's, Sony has decided to try their luck with pushing more DRM into DVD's which has caused some recent issues in Sony's own DVD Players.
"It doesn't seem believable. But the terrible publicity Sony is still getting following its efforts to foist dangerous (to PCs) rootkit spyware onto customers via music CDs doesn't seem to have dissuaded the company from trying it on again, this time DRM-ing movies. And it's apparently been going on since March at the least.

"In their zeal to make their DVD movies copyproof (yeah right) they have in fact made their latest releases unplayable on some DVD players, including my Sony DVP-CX995V DVD player," says Mick B on Just another WordPress.com weblog, quoted on slashdot.

He goes on that he recently rented Sony's Stranger than Fiction and The Holiday. both by Sony Pictures. Both load up to the splash title screen and then load no further, then after about 60 secs the player turns itself off!"
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Link: Forum Discussion (Thanks EZRecovery)

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(5 replies) #1 RAID 0 on 17 Apr 2007 - 09:12
Sony has provided some pretty innovative stuff over the years.... what happened?
#1.1 Neobond on 17 Apr 2007 - 09:16
What you mean like Betamax?
#1.2 +mrbester on 17 Apr 2007 - 09:25
Betamax is still in use, just not in the home market...
#1.3 +DrunkenMaster on 17 Apr 2007 - 11:50
Hey, making a DVD that won't run in your own players but some of your competitors - that's innovation!
#1.4 lbmouse on 17 Apr 2007 - 14:20
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What you mean like Betamax?

I'm surprised that no one has chimed in on this yet... Betamax was better than VHS. So was V2000 for that matter. With the exception of the CD (joint venture with Phillips), Sony unfortunately has a fairly dismal record of promoting their proprietary media formats effectively.

Now here is the real ironic thing about Betamax and the current Sony DRM efforts. Anyone remember the Sony v. Universal City Studios, also known as the "Betamax case"? I guess becoming a media content mogul changes your perspective on intellectual property law.
#1.5 jameswjrose on 17 Apr 2007 - 18:23
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Quote - (Neobond said @ #1.1)
What you mean like Betamax?

I'm surprised that no one has chimed in on this yet... Betamax was better than VHS.


Better is a perception issue. The quality was better, but the limit on the amount of time you could record on a single cassette was less than VHS...

It's basically the same for all technologies... each one has their benefits and drawbacks. It's all a matter of what each user needs.
#2 Peter McGrath on 17 Apr 2007 - 09:44
haha - sucked in!

who would ever buy Sony these days? Their track record (no pun intended) is atrocious....
(5 replies) #3 +Kushan on 17 Apr 2007 - 11:49
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It doesn't seem believable. But the terrible publicity Sony is still getting following its efforts to foist dangerous (to PCs) rootkit spyware onto customers


This seems to imply that Macs were perfectly safe, but there was a Mac version of the software on the disk as well, it just wasn't as invasive.
#3.1 Gibwar on 17 Apr 2007 - 14:08
Quote - (Kushan said @ #1)
This seems to imply that Macs were perfectly safe, but there was a Mac version of the software on the disk as well, it just wasn't as invasive.
I don't think so, considering Macs are PCs as well - so they rightfully mention both sides. (Remember - PC = Personal Computer, not Windows)
#3.2 RangerLG on 17 Apr 2007 - 15:10
Tell that to those annoying "I'm a Mac/I'm a PC" ads.
#3.3 kezzzs on 17 Apr 2007 - 18:46
Quote - (RangerLG said @ #3.2)
Tell that to those annoying "I'm a Mac/I'm a PC" ads.

PC: I'm a PC
Mac: I'm a Mac
PC: And you're also a PC
Mac: Ah crap. *disappears in a puff of logic*
#3.4 TRC on 17 Apr 2007 - 19:06
I don't get why Apple thought those ads were a good idea. The PC guy is wearing a nice suit and apparently has a job. The Mac guy looks like an unemployed piece of trash. I guess they were trying to say the PC guy is a nerd and the Mac guy is hip or something, but they failed miserably.
#3.5 Slugbait on 18 Apr 2007 - 05:46
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I guess they were trying to say the PC guy is a nerd and the Mac guy is hip or something, but they failed miserably.
I'm sorry, I was showing my new slide rule to a couple of groovy chicks who were lookin' in a far out happenin' way...were you saying something?
(5 replies) #4 MrCobra on 17 Apr 2007 - 12:10
The name Sony used to mean quality. All it means now is crap products, lies, deceit, and screwing over thier consumer base. They really need to fold up and go out of business.
#4.1 QuarterSwede on 17 Apr 2007 - 12:54
So true. I've been burned by them twice now for large scale (affecting a lot of people) hardware defects that they admitted they knew about but wouldn't do anything about. I won't be buying anymore hardware from them.
#4.2 jameswjrose on 17 Apr 2007 - 13:18
Indeed. I had a digital camera that just died after only 7 months, and all I could get was the runaround on having them fix it. A $500+ camera that worked in the morning, went to work, and when I came home it was no longer working... must of been me </sarcasm>

I now own a Minolta Digmage (sp) and LOVE it. Sony products? Not in our house. (by my calculations they have lost $3000 from our house alone since that issue... not to mention friends, family and co-workers that I tell this story too. Seems Sony doesnt understand the issue of "Word of Mouth".
#4.3 ec4912 on 17 Apr 2007 - 15:45
I bought an external DVD-RW burner, and it died on me just a few days after the warranty expired. I do like their cameras, though.
#4.4 TRC on 17 Apr 2007 - 17:43
Sony lies? But their CEO just announced that the PS3 is a big hit in Europe. You mean that might not be true?
#4.5 waxman830 on 17 Apr 2007 - 22:21
This pretty much sums up the whole Sony deal. http://maddox.xmission.com/ Then go to the Sony link. Enjoy!!!
#5 ziadoz on 17 Apr 2007 - 12:33
Sony have shown their true colours in recent years. They're a lying company determined to hold back the digital revolution with their outdated ideas. We won't even go into pricing.
#6 Croquant on 17 Apr 2007 - 12:34
ROTFLOL
#7 QuarterSwede on 17 Apr 2007 - 12:57
I wonder if this is the reason The Pursuit of Happyness won't play in my parents DVD player. The only difference is that it's a Toshiba DVD player but the film is distributed by Sony.

They rented a copy from Blockbuster and then exchanged one that wouldn't work for another one that didn't work either. It played fine in the 24" iMac though (probably looked better too ).
#8 Ideas Man on 17 Apr 2007 - 13:17
Wow, Sony seems to enjoy shooting themselves in the foot. They install rootkits on people's PCs, they stuff up people's stand alone DVD players. Who honestly still wants BluRay with this moronic company behind it? They no doubt will do something stupid that makes it more expensive than it's worth.
(1 reply) #9 ir0nw0lf on 17 Apr 2007 - 14:02
This is NOT isolated to Sony DVD players... Other forums have users with similar problems on nearly any brand name out there.
#9.1 TRC on 17 Apr 2007 - 17:42
Which is even worse, since this is isolated to Sony DVDs. The article title is just being ironic, being that Sony's movies won't play on their own DVD players.
#10 ThaCrip on 17 Apr 2007 - 15:37
screw sony... i probably wont be buying any of there products anymore cause i read way to many stories like the rootkit etc etc etc about sony and it just makes them look bad.

and with this copy protection crap (sony movies wont even play in there own players, now thats sad!, lol) ... all it's doing is screwing over the end user and NOT the pirates! ... cause it aint hard to find "stuff" online nowadays and it's free from all the copy protection bs.

the only thing sony understands is "$" once you screw with this then they will listen. lol cause it's like jameswjrose said above he aint buying anymore sony products and if enough people do this, sony will get screwed over soon enough
#11 ThePitt on 17 Apr 2007 - 16:15
what smart move!. This will improve the selling of blu-ray and all the DRM related!
#12 yardman on 17 Apr 2007 - 16:33
Sony sony sony...why am not surprise....
(1 reply) #13 TRC on 17 Apr 2007 - 17:41
Don't you see? People have been spouting off for years that "If it can be played, it can be copied". Sony is just doing this to take a stand against piracy. If people can't play their DVDs it means they can't copy them.
#13.1 kezzzs on 17 Apr 2007 - 18:51
you mean the solution has been that simple all these years?

*RING RING* *RING RING*

"Hello? Microsoft? Turns out you can stop piracy by making all your products unusable....... oh wait. No matter"


Before I get flamed I do use Vista.
#14 Jaxkesa on 17 Apr 2007 - 23:35
lol Sony suck so much it should be illegal

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